Samsung Note 10 ....Giving Up....or.....?

[Mr. Orange 645]

I wouldn't even say typically without some kind of numbers.

Given the community I've observed from the note 2 on, maybe it started that way when it was more of a niche phone but after iPhone started making larger phones and it become more mainstream, more consumers started purchasing it. More casual users typical of the larger market

Samsung has enterprise device support for business and they push out last year's model of the basic S device.

Most of the Reddit users I come across don't seem like business users. I mean some are sprinkled here and there, but I wouldn't say the trend is towards professionals..

Im working for a company that builds drones and space shuttles and your options for work phones that the company will pay for and allow on our Network are the S8 and some iphone.

The tough book example doesn't really work because that isn't really a big consumer device at all. Your paying for a rugged platform that is a LOT more than is consumer counterpart minus the military spec'd ruggedness. Samsung wants everyone to have this phone.

This reminds me of the people that would state that Nexus devices were for devs, but it was only people in the forum, Google never advertised that way because it's a great way to scare away sales..

Ok, that's all fair. I retract my statement about typical use. Everything else I stated still stands however.

 

[chetly968]

Which is why is said Note users "typically" use the phone for work and productivity.

The opposite is also true about the S series. They are TYPICALLY used used by just typical consumers, but are sometimes used for work and productivity.

Panasonic toughbook laptops are TYPICALLY used in law enforcement, fire departments, and other industrial settings, but that doesn't mean some there are SOME consumer level users.

I didn't mean to mischaracterise you or your usage, nor did I intend to make you feel left out. But as a matter of practicality, I can not 100% covert ever single user's individual use case scenario, I can merely comment on what I generally see in each segment of the consumer base. There will always be overlap.

So you're not left out...you're special.

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This brings me back to my original point though. Forget productivity, if you just use the Note series for top tier specs, then what exactly do you expect them to do with the S series? There's a 6 month difference between the Note and S series release. We are a point in time when even YEARLY updates are merely incremental. There's no large leaps forward.

So again, we would have to ask Samsung to purposely gimp the S Series and alienate at least half (if not more) of their user base to make us happy so we have the best and toppest of top tier.

I mean they gimped the Note 10 so the Plus would be better and Note fans are mad about that. So what do you expect the S Series fans to say or feel when Sammy does that to them?

What i would've expected, instead of gimping the s10, is the latest SoC instead of one that was six months old, a headphone jack, at least as much storage as that found in the top specced s10+. That would've been the minimum. The Note feels like a lateral move when it could've been much more. And what's the deal with the Verizon exclusive on 5g phones. Gotta wait til the 4th quarter for it to trickle down to other phones? I'll have moved in to the s11. Hopefukmy the 865 integrates 5g so this hogwash is over.

 

[winol]

Debating all these is just pointless, samsung just decided to make 2 models, that's it, pick the one that suits your needs/taste, just like that.

This reminds me of the times when cwllphones made its appearance, only wealthy people could afford them, later, when the prices went down, many of those began to complain as "now anybody can have a cell phone, even if poor and not having a car, good clothes, bla bla bla" so, it is just non sense to talk about samsung making a huge mistake in making 2 devices this time, as things are going, the note 10 will sell less than the 10+, depending on how big the difference turns out, this might be a one time thing, or not

 

[Mr. Orange 645]

What i would've expected, instead of gimping the s10, is the latest SoC instead of one that was six months old, a headphone jack, at least as much storage as that found in the top specced s10+. That would've been the minimum. The Note feels like a lateral move when it could've been much more. And what's the deal with the Verizon exclusive on 5g phones. Gotta wait til the 4th quarter for it to trickle down to other phones? I'll have moved in to the s11. Hopefukmy the 865 integrates 5g so this hogwash is over.

855 is the most current SoC. The 855+ is just an overclocked 855. This has been the case the last several years. The Note is released with the same SoC as the S series.

The headphone jack is going away. God or bad, it's fact. Samsung held on for longer than anyone else, but it's gone. So are physical home keys. Everyone griped about that too.

I will concede your point about the top end storage, although rumors are they will be introducing a 1TB 5G model. You also have to remember, Samsung is a business. It's possible the 1TB models didn't sell enough to justify putting 1TB in the N10+. The 128GB N9 outsold the 512GB model by a large margin, so they only made one color available this year in the 512GB model (initially anyway).

As far as 5G? Well...Verizon is the only carrier with half a 5G network. Makes no sense to release them for other carriers until those carriers roll out their 5G network. No, ATT's fake 5G doesn't count. Plus right now, Samsung makes one model that works on all carriers. I'm hoping they are planning to continue this model with 5G devices that work on any carrier.

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Debating all these is just pointless, samsung just decided to make 2 models, that's it, pick the one that suits your needs/taste, just like that.

This reminds me of the times when cwllphones made its appearance, only wealthy people could afford them, later, when the prices went down, many of those began to complain as "now anybody can have a cell phone, even if poor and not having a car, good clothes, bla bla bla" so, it is just non sense to talk about samsung making a huge mistake in making 2 devices this time, as things are going, the note 10 will sell less than the 10+, depending on how big the difference turns out, this might be a one time thing, or not

I agree. Im holding this device, thinking what an absolutely amazing device it is. And people are actually complaining it's not advanced enough. We're Note people, were entitled to a better phone than S series people.

If it's not enough of an upgrade, then don't buy it, and move on.

#firstworldproblems

 

[winol]

Exactly, if the note10+ lacks all the things the complainer want/wish/desire, let aside the exynos soc gripe, there are literally tons of devices out there, go get a huawei mate30, a pixel 4, or whatever the chinese feel compelled to spill, as next year, s11, note11 will not be good enough for all, the same story wil repeat again, and again.
I am just patiently waiting for my aura black note10+, because it is the device I REALLY LIKE AS IT IS