Sanity Check

[IAmConfused]

My beloved rooted Nexus 5 is now well past its best before date and on searching a replacement device am suffering sticker price shock for ' flagship' phones

Am considering the Essential PH1 considering its specs vs price point.

Take few photos, with performance as a 'Phone' - particularly battery life - a higher priority than camera

Given the litany of 'issues' reported and the stability of its manufacturer am I losing my mind seriously considering Essential ?

Should I just suck it up and spend the bucks (One+ 6 would be my current choice)

Any insight &/or suggestions from former N5 users would welcome

TIA

 

[Rawwrius01]

Maybe the Poco Phone?

Ich switched eine years ago from the n5 to op3 never regret it but my next phone won't be a one plus.

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[IAmConfused]

Maybe the Poco Phone?

Ich switched eine years ago from the n5 to op3 never regret it but my next phone won't be a one plus.

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Poco not on my shortlist - apparently no B4 band (needed in Canada for LTE) . Thanks for suggestion tho.

Would you share why you've ruled out the One Plus ?

 

[Rawwrius01]

Of course. It's because they are getting damn expensive and more like the "hip and fancy" brands. I mean they have some benefits like the really good software and update support. But they started with under 300 € I think and now the OnePlus 6t will cost nearly 600€. Also the design ...the glass and the notch, it's horrible in my opinion.

If you are willing to pay that much the one plus is a good choice but if you can wait a half year you can buy the half year old Samsung phones. They get much cheaper in some time. The OnePlus won't. And if you root anyway you can flash AOSP on the Samsung. The worst thing is the bloatware on this devices.

Poco not on my shortlist - apparently no B4 band (needed in Canada for LTE) . Thanks for suggestion tho.

Would you share why you've ruled out the One Plus ?

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[IAmConfused]

Of course. It's because they are getting damn expensive and more like the "hip and fancy" brands. I mean they have some benefits like the really good software and update support. But they started with under 300 € I think and now the OnePlus 6t will cost nearly 600€. Also the design ...the glass and the notch, it's horrible in my opinion.

If you are willing to pay that much the one plus is a good choice but if you can wait a half year you can buy the half year old Samsung phones. They get much cheaper in some time. The OnePlus won't. And if you root anyway you can flash AOSP on the Samsung. The worst thing is the bloatware on this devices.

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Thank you for sharing ... which brings me full circle ... premium specs, timely software updates, no bloatware, and tolerable price point = Essential as the replacement for my N5 OR Am I just dreaming and going to be disappointed

 

[maybeme2]

Thank you for sharing ... which brings me full circle ... premium specs, timely software updates, no bloatware, and tolerable price point = Essential as the replacement for my N5 OR Am I just dreaming and going to be disappointed

I'm going through the same dilemma. All the phones I looked at (Oneplus 6, Moto C, etc) had their own problems! So for the moment I'm staying with my rooted N5 running lineageos 14.1 (Nougat). Seems the best and most secure option for now.....

 

[eilegz]

My beloved rooted Nexus 5 is now well past its best before date and on searching a replacement device am suffering sticker price shock for ' flagship' phones

Am considering the Essential PH1 considering its specs vs price point.

Take few photos, with performance as a 'Phone' - particularly battery life - a higher priority than camera

Given the litany of 'issues' reported and the stability of its manufacturer am I losing my mind seriously considering Essential ?

Should I just suck it up and spend the bucks (One+ 6 would be my current choice)

Any insight &/or suggestions from former N5 users would welcome

TIA

i still have my nexus 5 and its working, but the battery life its so bad, i moved to the pocophone f1 at less than 400 dollars with almost all flagship specs its the nexus phone that we wanted cheap, full flagship features, and price performance that no phone offers currently.

Another alternative if you dont like the pocophone f1, its the Nokia 8 (2017), the only disadvantage of that you cant unlock the bootloader its pretty cheap at less than 400 dollars, the nexus pricing, premium performance and features.

 

[IAmConfused]

i still have my nexus 5 and its working, but the battery life its so bad, i moved to the pocophone f1 at less than 400 dollars with almost all flagship specs its the nexus phone that we wanted cheap, full flagship features, and price performance that no phone offers currently.

Another alternative if you dont like the pocophone f1, its the Nokia 8 (2017), the only disadvantage of that you cant unlock the bootloader its pretty cheap at less than 400 dollars, the nexus pricing, premium performance and features.

As mentioned above Poco won't work for me :crying: as am in Canada and Poco does not support Band B to enable LTE.

Nokia's showing as Not Available on Amazon.ca Unlockable boot loader might be an issue Thanks for the suggestion Can you reference source of < $400 pricing ?

Not sure how long my Nexus will survive with current hardware issue ( sound only when it feels like it and doesn't feel like it more often than not).

Not hearing anyone saying they grabbed Essential ... maybe answering my question

 

[eilegz]

As mentioned above Poco won't work for me :crying: as am in Canada and Poco does not support Band B to enable LTE.

Nokia's showing as Not Available on Amazon.ca Unlockable boot loader might be an issue Thanks for the suggestion Can you reference source of < $400 pricing ?

Not sure how long my Nexus will survive with current hardware issue ( sound only when it feels like it and doesn't feel like it more often than not).

Not hearing anyone saying they grabbed Essential ... maybe answering my question

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077YTNBQY

 

[GopalKaul]

As mentioned above Poco won't work for me :crying: as am in Canada and Poco does not support Band B to enable LTE.

Nokia's showing as Not Available on Amazon.ca Unlockable boot loader might be an issue Thanks for the suggestion Can you reference source of < $400 pricing ?

Not sure how long my Nexus will survive with current hardware issue ( sound only when it feels like it and doesn't feel like it more often than not).

Not hearing anyone saying they grabbed Essential ... maybe answering my question

I would recommend the zuk z2. Perfect replacement for my N5

 

[ajs124]

I switched to a Moto X4 just a few weeks back from my trusty old Nexus 5. It's not a big upgrade, in a lot of ways, but you also don't lose anything you might with comparable phones (like a headphone jack).

As said, it's by no means a flagship device, but so far I'm happy with it, especially considering the 180€ price tag.

 

[maybeme2]

Not sure how long my Nexus will survive with current hardware issue ( sound only when it feels like it and doesn't feel like it more often than not).

Have you considered self repairing? They N5 is easy to take apart and replacement parts are cheap on Ebay.
Google your sound problem. Sounds like a possible loose connection somewhere. May just need to disconnect and reconnect that part. That plus a new battery for $6 may give you a 'new' nexus 5.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-wq0choeCdU

 

[georgs_town]

I'm in my last days with my beloved N5! It is the best Smartphone, I've ever owned - it has been nearly 5 years. I replaced the battery a year ago with an (allegedly) original battery. Since a few months the battery life is worsening day by day. I'm running Lineage 14.1, which runs smooth and stable. Since a few days, the device turns itself off every now and then. I guess it's a hardware problem; I've openened it and tried to reattach every connection,without success.
I will be going for a Pixel 3 because...
- It seems to be THE ONLY flagship usable with one hand
- The most annoying thing with the N5 was the Camera in any lower light condition. Hence I opt for a top-notch-camera
- A big part of the good experience I had with the N5 was due to the great developer community. Software-wise I'm still (almost) up to date! I'm hoping that the Pixel 3 will last for at least 5 years... All the other phones with a strong community are just too large for me (Xiaomi, OnePlus, Moto G6...)
- It is reasonably easy to take apart; I will be able to replace the battery myself and in a few years the replacement displays wont cost a fortune anymore.

I know that the Pixel 3 is overprized, but considering, that the smartphone is the object I use the most in my life, I came to the conclusion, that i want to spend that money. And if I compare myself to some friends, who might not spend 900$ on a phone, but then buy a new 300-400$ Phone every 2 years, I will probably still pay less after all...
But again: I would go for a Xiaomi/Poco/OnePlus IF THEY WOULD STOP MAKING TABLETS AND START MAKING PHONES AGAIN!

 

[GopalKaul]

I'm in my last days with my beloved N5! It is the best Smartphone, I've ever owned - it has been nearly 5 years. I replaced the battery a year ago with an (allegedly) original battery. Since a few months the battery life is worsening day by day. I'm running Lineage 14.1, which runs smooth and stable. Since a few days, the device turns itself off every now and then. I guess it's a hardware problem; I've openened it and tried to reattach every connection,without success.
I will be going for a Pixel 3 because...
- It seems to be THE ONLY flagship usable with one hand
- The most annoying thing with the N5 was the Camera in any lower light condition. Hence I opt for a top-notch-camera
- A big part of the good experience I had with the N5 was due to the great developer community. Software-wise I'm still (almost) up to date! I'm hoping that the Pixel 3 will last for at least 5 years... All the other phones with a strong community are just too large for me (Xiaomi, OnePlus, Moto G6...)
- It is reasonably easy to take apart; I will be able to replace the battery myself and in a few years the replacement displays wont cost a fortune anymore.

I know that the Pixel 3 is overprized, but considering, that the smartphone is the object I use the most in my life, I came to the conclusion, that i want to spend that money. And if I compare myself to some friends, who might not spend 900$ on a phone, but then buy a new 300-400$ Phone every 2 years, I will probably still pay less after all...
But again: I would go for a Xiaomi/Poco/OnePlus IF THEY WOULD STOP MAKING TABLETS AND START MAKING PHONES AGAIN!

Man once check out the Zuk Z2 plus! You won't regret it!

 

[georgs_town]

Man once check out the Zuk Z2 plus! You won't regret it!

Yeah, looks good! I would consider the zuk 3 if there was one...

 

[GopalKaul]

Yeah, looks good! I would consider the zuk 3 if there was one...

I bought it and it is the perfect replacement! Same size, beast of a performance and also the best custom ROM development! It has about 8 Pie ROMs and has camera2api! I really love this device!

 

[Drake9090]

I'm in my last days with my beloved N5! It is the best Smartphone, I've ever owned - it has been nearly 5 years. I replaced the battery a year ago with an (allegedly) original battery. Since a few months the battery life is worsening day by day. I'm running Lineage 14.1, which runs smooth and stable. Since a few days, the device turns itself off every now and then. I guess it's a hardware problem; I've openened it and tried to reattach every connection,without success.
I will be going for a Pixel 3 because...
- It seems to be THE ONLY flagship usable with one hand
- The most annoying thing with the N5 was the Camera in any lower light condition. Hence I opt for a top-notch-camera
- A big part of the good experience I had with the N5 was due to the great developer community. Software-wise I'm still (almost) up to date! I'm hoping that the Pixel 3 will last for at least 5 years... All the other phones with a strong community are just too large for me (Xiaomi, OnePlus, Moto G6...)
- It is reasonably easy to take apart; I will be able to replace the battery myself and in a few years the replacement displays wont cost a fortune anymore.

I know that the Pixel 3 is overprized, but considering, that the smartphone is the object I use the most in my life, I came to the conclusion, that i want to spend that money. And if I compare myself to some friends, who might not spend 900$ on a phone, but then buy a new 300-400$ Phone every 2 years, I will probably still pay less after all...
But again: I would go for a Xiaomi/Poco/OnePlus IF THEY WOULD STOP MAKING TABLETS AND START MAKING PHONES AGAIN!

Have you considered sony xz2 compact? It is still a compact phone, not so recent I know, but with reasonable price...
Otherwise there is Xiaomi mi A2 lite, with Android One, and at 200$ I think it could be a good investment. Also it has great support.
I hope I'm in time for the suggestions!

 

[georgs_town]

Have you considered sony xz2 compact? It is still a compact phone, not so recent I know, but with reasonable price...
Otherwise there is Xiaomi mi A2 lite, with Android One, and at 200$ I think it could be a good investment. Also it has great support.
I hope I'm in time for the suggestions!

Thanks, but you're too late
I'll get the Pixel 3 tomorrow. The XZ2 is nice, although a bit chunky. Sad they didn't bring out a xz3 compact together with the xz3...
The Mi A2 Lite is ok, but no flagship phone... The problem with the affordable brands is, that they essentially all design phones for the Asian market, where for many people the phone is at the same time their Computer and TV and hence bigger is better...

 

[malek_anas_97]

i got myself a Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite about a week ago because my nexus 5 really started to show its age after 4+ years, do any of you guys have this device/plan to get it?
if so let me know because i'm trying to get a community together for this device, it already has a TWRP port, and i started my bootloader unlock process (it told me i had to wait 15 days and it feels like forever lol)
i also posted a request in the new device request thread
hopefully we'll get our own place soon hehe