Save CyanogenMod app: Am I an activist, crazy, or both? In the Market.

[coolbho3000]

http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.mhuang.savecyanogenmod
Digg it! http://digg.com/software/Save_CyanogenMod_application_now_on_Android_Market

This will get the cause more publicity and pressure Google. It didn't quite work for that tether stuff, but this is Cyanogen we're talking about. It is a bit sensationalist, but we want at least a detailed explanation from Google (a re-licensing of the Google app binaries would be ideal) and this is one way to try to get one.

CyanogenMod is an unofficial, donation supported modification for the open source Android operating system. On September 24, 2009, Google sent a cease and desist letter to Cyanogen (Steve Kondik), demanding that he cease distribution of CyanogenMod because it includes several closed source Google applications like Gmail and Google Talk.

As users, we believe that while Google was within its legal rights to send this cease and desist order, this letter contradicts Google Android's own open source spirit. Additionally, the distribution of Google applications actually increases adoption of Google products, bringing Google more profit.

Because Google applications are such a core part of the Android experience, we believe that they should be available for free distribution.

To let your voice be heard, please post a comment on this application's Android Market page.

 

[notxel21]

I'm downloading this now!

 

[roadrunnerx7]

wow an app? cyanogen if you ever had a doubt in your mind people didnt apprecaite you and your work, this is proof we do

 

[TommyPickles]

Congratulations on creating yet-another useless application on the Market. No, I will not download your app or comment.

Please reconsider your actions. Android needs all the support it can get, not knee-jerk reactionary polls spreading possible misinformation without the full facts.

 

[coolbho3000]

Congratulations on creating yet-another useless application on the Market. No, I will not download your app or comment.

Please reconsider your actions. Android needs all the support it can get, not knee-jerk reactionary polls spreading possible misinformation without the full facts.

I think this one is quite less sensationalist than the last one (and I still stand by the last one). This seems to be the general consensus of this community. Can you point out where I did not give the full facts? I did consider Google's position and offered a counterargument. I kept the whole thing short, and of course it's going to be biased - I'm speaking for one position, after all.

As users, we believe that while Google was within its legal rights to send this cease and desist order, this letter contradicts Google Android's own open source spirit. Additionally, the distribution of Google applications actually increases adoption of Google products, bringing Google more profit.

Because Google applications are such a core part of the Android experience, we believe that they should be available for free distribution.

Really, it's just an application to get Google to react somehow. Of course it's reactionary. Are you going to go and rate this application a 1/5 and try to "teach" those on the Android Market my wrongdoings? Google is alienating one of its core audiences (developers and enthusiasts!) here. If anything, their actions were bad for Android.

 

[desertangel]

I'm downloading this now!

......Ditto!...........

 

[sstang2006]

supporting Cyanogen..

 

[TommyPickles]

It's great that you are open minded about 'open source spirit'.

Can I have your bank account number? Or please provide details on how your Google account links to your checkout account for me. What? You don't want to provide it? Why are you against open-source?

Market will never be open-source because it is a commerce application. Is that so hard to understand?

Further an unreleased version is being redistributed that will cause confusion to the general public. It was licensed to Open Handset Alliance members only.

Why don't I have the latest Market? Why doesnt Google love me? My friend has it! Oh the applications I download from new Market seem to be stuck and its bugged.. why doesnt Google support me on it?

For these reasons and more it was C&D. I'm sure Android team will give him a personal call and talk it through. Stop being so reactionary.

Sorry to be harsh but you have contributed nothing to this community except get people to downlaod your app, increasing your profile. For that I wish you well, but as I said I will not download nor comment on your app because I think its a great idea in intention but totally misplaced because you haven't thought it through.

 

[coolbho3000]

It's great that you are open minded about 'open source spirit'.

Can I have your bank account number? Or please provide details on how your Google account links to your checkout account for me. What? You don't want to provide it? Why are you against open-source?

Market will never be open-source because it is a commerce application. Is that so hard to understand?

Further an unreleased version is being redistributed that will cause confusion to the general public. It was licensed to Open Handset Alliance members only.

Why don't I have the latest Market? Why doesnt Google love me? My friend has it! Oh the applications I download from new Market seem to be stuck and its bugged.. why doesnt Google support me on it?

For these reasons and more it was C&D. I'm sure Android team will give him a personal call and talk it through. Stop being so reactionary.

Sorry to be harsh but you have contributed nothing to this community except get people to downlaod your app, increasing your profile. For that I wish you well, but as I said I will not download nor comment on your app because I think its a great idea in intention but totally misplaced because you haven't thought it through.

Did I ever ask for the Market to be open source? I said the C&D went against the open source spirit, which promotes sharing code (even in the form of binaries, which are better than nothing, if necessary) and expanding the community in this way. The Android Market is one central part of the Android experience, and I believe that we should push for a redistribution license for all developers. Of course some sources must be protected (though as a developer I will argue that an open source implementation of the Market is certainly viable without compromising user data).

I don't really care about my profile - my pseudonym here is different from my name on the Android Market, even. You'll have to take my word for it that that is not my agenda.

 

[AsaSpades]

[email protected] lame, im downloading this app ASAP

 

[TommyPickles]

I'll take your word for it, because your response sounds reasoned. But by reading your response, I then also have to ask : Why are we reacting to this?

The new Market will be released when it's done. Until then, only those who have a license (such as Open Handset Alliance members such as phone manufacturers) will be able to use and trial it.

It's not like Google won't release it. They will. They want to. But they just can't deal with the general public having problems with their commerce system. They also can't let it be open-sourced. Sorry but thats just the way they are thinking, I'm sure.

I would rather accept Google's decision anyday, then that of Apple. I don't want Android to have the reputation of hurting developers, because it is so opposite to the truth, which is why I'm so dismayed. Sorry about that.

 

[coolbho3000]

I would rather accept Google's decision anyday, then that of Apple. I don't want Android to have the reputation of hurting developers, because it is so opposite to the truth, which is why I'm so dismayed. Sorry about that.

Android is great, and Google has spoiled us, which is probably why we get such a strong reaction from developers and users. But I'll leave this up for a bit and see what happens, and if the things stated inside the app get irrelevant or inaccurate, I'll update the app or pull it.

 

[futango]

Google. Why you gotta be such a @$$HAT???

 

[truthkilla]

I can't download from the market now but this is ****ed up. Looks like Google has been listening to it's dentist and taking an APPLE a day.

 

[kintera]

i'm sorry i have to give it to tommypickles yes this is a let down, but Google is trying to protect a core peace of there software the market is one of the definitive parts of this OS. after surveying the facts i can find i have to side with Google's decisions. I personally left the iphone world for a reason and the main reason is the dev nightmare that is the app store on iphone. As i developer i see there side, i also see the users side yes we got spoiled by the new market and now they want to say hold on there.

they are merely trying to protect the core experience that is android OS.

 

[XxKOLOHExX]

Hmm some people forget that if cyanogen (the stablest rom out their) goes what makes you think that google will just stop at him...

 

[brooklyndiva24]

yes please google back off n let cyanogen be. he didnt steal this is suppose 2 be open source. it was put out there 2 be used. please stop hating on cyanogen

 

[osokrayzay]

"Yo GOOGLE, I'm really happy for you, I'll let you finish, but Cyanogen has one of the best roms of all time. One of the best roms of all time!"



osokrayzay com

 

[oshizzle1991]

tommypickles sounds like he got his ass destroyed by a huge black dildo and is mad about something else so he decides to point out some minuscule opinion about cyanogen just so he can feel better about himself.

 

[kable]

This has a snowballs chance in .. well you know the rest.