Accessories Screen protector with Gorilla Glass Victus glass

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blackhawk

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I can only repeat myself: Apples implementation of Sapphire on their apple watches & on the backside of devices (camera lense protection) is fake. It was tested all day long on Youtube by people using Mohs picks, it scratched at 6 and 7, which means that it's only Sapphire in name. There is no optical "sapphire" used by Apple, it's a fancy marketing word and only that.
I don't watch Apple products at all. What's the point since I'll never own one? The link above gets into some of Apple's marketing.

Sapphire has been used for decades in watch crystals.
 

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Sapphire has been used for watch crystals for scratch protection, but they still shatter easier. Now, when you take a thinner piece of sapphire, make it a LOT larger, and it will shatter if you look at it wrong. Now make it a LOT more expensive than Corning's options. It all adds up to a whole mess and it's not viable for phone screens.
 

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I don't watch Apple products at all. What's the point since I'll never own one? The link above gets into some of Apple's marketing.

Sapphire has been used for decades in watch crystals.
Yes it has, I own a few watches with saphire crystal glass, not one of them have scratched screens, every other one I own has scratched screens. And these watches are heavy.

We are talking about a phone having a huge skinny piece of saphine crystal to cover the display not a small compact device like a watch in this thread, exactly what my comment was based upon. It is most likely to be a substantial price increase to put on saphine crystal. According to Corning, a saphine screen would cost about 10 times more than Gorilla glass.
 
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Sapphire has been used for watch crystals for scratch protection, but they still shatter easier. Now, when you take a thinner piece of sapphire, make it a LOT larger, and it will shatter if you look at it wrong. Now make it a LOT more expensive than Corning's options. It all adds up to a whole mess and it's not viable for phone screens.
Yeap... but it would have been glorious if Apple had got sucked into doing it🤣
 

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I have had my p6p for about 7 days now. There are visible scratches all over the front and back of the device. I never share the pocket with anything else. I never lay it face down.

Compared to my p4xl with 2+ years of service, there's not one single scratch or defect anywhere. I am fully convinced that whatever this glass is, can't hold a candle to others. My s8 and s9+ on my desk also have zero scratches. No screen protectors, ever.

I would note that the screen obviously has a very generously-applied coating on it and feels much smoother than my p4xl. It very well could be that the coating is what's scratching so easily.
 
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A couple things reading this thread

I dislike Apple, but their Sapphire Glass IS sapphire for what it's worth. Zach appeared to scratch it in his video, but precious mineral detectors do detect it. What actually happened is he shattered the glass while attempting to scratch it, due to it's thickness. Take that as you will for durability.

The Victus glass on this phone and other new models is more shatter - resistant, but as each new version from Corning is released it becomes less scratch resistant. They even changed their official reports on their products since I believe Gorilla Glass 2, as to not look bad. Their argument is that people prioritize drop protection over scratch protection, which I suppose holds water. This unfortunately leads to the argument "I used my old phone without a case for 5 years and no scratches, only fools would bother with a screen protector now!" Simply Google search "Pixel 6 scratches" and you'll see tons of people have already damaged their display, despite putting it alone in their pockets.

I personally refused to take this phone out of my house until my TPU screen protector arrived and I had a case on it. If you want your screen to remain pristine, I highly recommend the same. I do this for my own piece of mind though, as I doubt the resale value is going to be very high in a few years. Unfortunately only iPhones and some Samsungs retain much value. Given that, if you don't mind micro scratches, have at it and don't bother with a protector.

Lastly, TPU protectors have come a long way in the last few years. They don't feel rubbery anymore to the point that it feels gross, the screen looks 98% the same with one on, and in the case of soft protectors, the fingerprint works just about as well with one as without, especially because it's light based and not sonic.

Alternatively, purchase insurance. The pro is at minimum a $900 device, protect your investment!
 

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I was very gentle with my phone. I was out in direct sunlight last weekend and noticed very fine scratches everywhere one the screen. ( These by the way are completely un visible indoors under normal lighting)
I immediately installed my armor shield protector.

Yes it'll scratch and it'll scratch easily.
 
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I was very gentle with my phone. I was out in direct sunlight last weekend and noticed very fine scratches everywhere one the screen. ( These by the way are completely un visible indoors under normal lighting)
I immediately installed my armor shield protector.

Yes it'll scratch and it'll scratch easily.
Hopefully it's just the oleophobic coating that's scratched, and not the screen itself
 
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A wise man once said: Glass is glass and glass breaks. Scratches at 6, deeper grooves at 7.

I'd like to see a Victus-based screen protector though.
 

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A wise man once said: Glass is glass and glass breaks. Scratches at 6, deeper grooves at 7.

I'd like to see a Victus-based screen protector though.
Well, if vicus is crap on scratching, but better on shattering, wouldn't it make sense to have a protector that uses a previous version of glass that's more scratch-resistant?
 

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I guess that makes sense. The Gorilla Glass generations kinda blend together though.
 

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Well, if vicus is crap on scratching, but better on shattering, wouldn't it make sense to have a protector that uses a previous version of glass that's more scratch-resistant?
I don't think I've ever seen a gorilla glass screen protector.

Mostly they're just "9H" hardness rated, which is basically a ploy to make you think they're as strong as sapphire glass. Generally, glass screen protectors are there to shatter in a fall rather than your screen. I've seen compelling evidence that TPU actually offers more impact protection though
 

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Sadly, already "Currently unavailable", but good to know. I'll keep a watch on it. I know it says compatible with the fingerprint reader, but do you concur?

Thanks!
Yep it works just the same as it did before, if there's any difference it's very hard to tell. I didn't even re register my fingerprints. Wow I can't believe they're out of stock so quickly?! Well they are the only screen protector I could find using UV glue to actually adhere to the curved screen until Whitestone Dome releases this month.
 
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    At this point there is no such screen protector that doesn't degrade usability of this phone. Curved screen AND the damn on-screen fingerprint reader made sure of that.
    And that's just... completely untrue. I'm using a TPU based protector, fingerprint works 100%, every damn time. When the UV based protectors come out, they'll work 100%, every time. Optical protectors are a LOT easier to use with screen protectors.
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    I wish it was this easy in desert climates. Even with shaking out my pockets regularly, a stray piece of sand always manages to find its way to my screens within the first couple months.

    FWIW I had the S21 Ultra before this (also using Victus) and it managed to get scratched. Nothing deep, but it was noticeable in sunlight. I'm planning on keeping the Pixel for a good while, so I actually picked up a TPU screen protector for it.
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    I think HTC's sapphire U Ultra is the only phone/smart device to date with a decent ("real") Sapphire screen. Other than that you will only find expensive watches with a pure Sapphire screen.
    To my knowledge optical sapphire has only been used for camera lense protection. Optically it's not as clear as glass, it has a slight tint. I still wouldn't buy an Apple...

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    Every time I've tried that, the screen gets scratched. All the way up to iPhone 12 pro max.