Question SD Native call recording & CSC (without rooting)

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Luxferrea

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Hi everyone,

Looking for some insight and more educated projections.

I'm in Canada, and our phones (SD) typically didn't get native call recording (or any recording allowed as a matter of fact after Pie was rolled out). I had to purchase a phone from overseas (EXY) and load it with IND CSC for it to work.

Now that India, along with Thailand and most of the other countries that have native call recording enabled, would that mean phones purchased in Canada could have it activated by changing CSC as well?

I understand this is new territory and has never happened before, but I'm just wondering what the thoughts are, or if anyone of you are influencers who already have your hands on a phone sold in the US/Canada can test it out?

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gpap2004

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I used to flash Indonesia firmware through ODIN and native call recording was perfect in my S21 ultra EUR version. Now ,in S22 ultra with EUX csc (SM-S908B) Im wondering if we can flash Indonesia CSC because I don't know if it is another firmware belonging to SM-S908E versions of s22 ultra.
 
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ilpincio85

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I used to flash Indonesia firmware through ODIN and native call recording was perfect in my S21 ultra EUR version. Now ,in S22 ultra with EUX csc (SM-S908B) Im wondering if we can flash Indonesia CSC because I don't know if it is another firmware belonging to SM-S908E versions of s22 ultra.
same for me.
BUT seems like indonesia now uses snapdragon (SM-908E) so (i think) it is not compatible with our eur (i'm in italy OXM) phone.
maybe one of the csc listed here
would be compatible, but at the moment Firja doesn't find anythink.
any suggestions?
 
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Although it is very early as the phone didn't contribute all over the world, it seems that many of the countries which had csc with call recording permissions will take snapdragon version (SM-S908E). F.e . Indonesia, Thailand, India.
This is very sad for the rest of us who have exynos version..
Since now, even Samkey supports s22 ultra for changing CSC..
We will see..
 

Luxferrea

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I'm wondering if it's just band differences for the different SD models because most if not all of the hardware should be the same across the board with the SD variants?

I guess we'll find out soon. I really prefer to get a phone locally in Canada as opposed to having a 908E shipped here...
 

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Hi to ALL
In a different section i ask question about csc with native call recording in Exynos edition.
This is the answer i get
Code:
BTB,BTE,EVR,MEO,MET,SFR,TSI,BKD,BOG,CAU,EUX,EUY,INS,MOB,MOT,MSR,NPL,O2C,PLS,PRT,SEK,SER,SIM,SKZ,SWC,TIM,TOP,VIP,CPW,WWA,WWC,WWD,ACR,AFG,AFR,DKR,ECT,EGY,FWD,ILO,ILP,KSA,LYS,MID,MWD,PAK,SLK,SRR,TUN,TUR,XFA,XFE,XFV,XSG

Among these Call recording available on following
BKD,EGY,ILO,INS,LYS,NPL,SEK,SLK,TUN
So there is a hope... when Samkey will support S22 eventually.
However the fact ,that Frija not funding any firmware yet is little disturbing.
we have to wait and see what the future will bring :) , hope les than 21 days.... so some of us can change mind and send it back.
 
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Hi to ALL
In a different section i ask question about csc with native call recording in Exynos edition.
This is the answer i get
Code:
BTB,BTE,EVR,MEO,MET,SFR,TSI,BKD,BOG,CAU,EUX,EUY,INS,MOB,MOT,MSR,NPL,O2C,PLS,PRT,SEK,SER,SIM,SKZ,SWC,TIM,TOP,VIP,CPW,WWA,WWC,WWD,ACR,AFG,AFR,DKR,ECT,EGY,FWD,ILO,ILP,KSA,LYS,MID,MWD,PAK,SLK,SRR,TUN,TUR,XFA,XFE,XFV,XSG

Among these Call recording available on following
BKD,EGY,ILO,INS,LYS,NPL,SEK,SLK,TUN
So there is a hope... when Samkey will support S22 eventually.
However the fact ,that Frija not funding any firmware yet is little disturbing.
we have to wait and see what the future will bring :) , hope les than 21 days.... so some of us can change mind and send it back.

On sammobile.com
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This is the version for SEK from the list "Among these Call recording available on the following"

Do you think call recording might work there?
 

tomesiek

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just download fw and install it via odin, right?

I already have it, I'll try it in a few hours and I'll let you know.
Check what CSC got now. Maybe EUX - this is a multi-CSC so you don't have to install firmware, just change CSC with samkey.
To check the CSC dial a code on your device’s dialer itself. code to dial is *#1234#.
 
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gpap2004

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Wheeej, successfully changed to "SEK" on "EUX" and call recording is here!
Good news! So SEK (Ukraine) CSC has native call recording . Did you just flash the SEK firmware through ODIN (the SEK firmware can be found to sammobile)? Or you use Samkey (although Samkey says that s22 ultra is not supported yet). Please , let us know 😀
 

ilpincio85

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Good news! So SEK (Ukraine) CSC has native call recording . Did you just flash the SEK firmware through ODIN (the SEK firmware can be found to sammobile)? Or you use Samkey (although Samkey says that s22 ultra is not supported yet). Please , let us know 😀

I think that odin doesn't work because sek csc is included in oxm multi-csc so, using home_csc, simply has no effect


Does this operation reset the phone? i would like to don't re-install and re-configure all my stuff.
 
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    thanks, tried but sadly it still sees my s22 as not certified;
    also the safetynet test fails on CTS profile match
    Samsung miss to authorised their ...WE1 in Google Play Protect. (Happens many times with a lot of devices. First time on my Note20 I write and call Samsung... until any understood and answer me the next firmware comes.)

    Options:
    Wait Samsung to release next firmware ...WEx (x>1) or ...WFx

    Downgrade via ODIN (AP, BL, CP, HOME_CSC) to ...WD3 (and turn of temporary OTA updates).

    P. S.
    Nothing other helps (delete, uninstall, even factory reset on this firmware), just firmware did not pass GPP. The chance Google to reauthiorize it is small than Samsung to push the next firmware.
    2
    did anyone else lost the ability to use google pay on their device ( SM-S908B/DS exynos, had changed last year CSC to SEK) after the update to S908BXXU4CWE1?

    more info: seems that it has only a few CSC available now and I get the message that the device doesn't meet security requirements and in google store the play protect certification says device not certified
    View attachment 5920841
    an update:

    after I updated google play store to the latest version( google play store->settings->about )
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    and also updated the google play system with the latest (wasn't available 2 days ago)
    (settings->about phone->software information-> google play sistem update)

    I have the phone now as certified with WE1 :D

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    What is your opinion on SamFw? Virustotal says it is full of trojans. Their website doesn't look very legal, you need to run it as admin, and after installation it "looks for an update", if you block this connection, the program won't start at all, ip leads to Colombia - another suspicious thing.

    Is it worth it to you?
    If question is to me.
    I keep several older SamFw versions.
    3.31 is the latest that works without internet (blocked internet access)
    Still shows a problem on Virus Total but no problem found several months usage.
    1
    I tried to send via telegram original picture but unfortunately it compress it like whatsapp
    Because you didn't learn enough about telegram. In order not to compress it you need to sent as a file, then choose gallery and then the picture. Zero compression.
    1
    So I've owned my Samsung Galaxy A54 5G, the "SM-A546U" model for almost a month, and it currently contains the "TMK" CSC. I haven't done any in-depth modding to a Samsung device since 2017 when I last owned my Galaxy S7 due to Samsung's anti-consumer practices, but that's besides the point. I'm not trying to root my device, but I want to enable native call recording which is currently missing on my device so I would like to know if there is any way possible to force my device to support a certain CSC that will enable this feature. Any helpful advice would be welcome and I would greatly appreciate it.
    This is a usa model. There are no csc in the rom that enable call recording.
    For that you buy the international model, but then you may have problems with the frequencies.
    Sorry mate
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    At the moment call recoring:
    S22 (SM-S901x), S22+ (SM-G906x) and S22 Ultra (SM-G908x)
    * is model 1, 6 or 8
    x is region (the region have several CSCs)

    SM-S90*B (europe) - Exynos - via Samkey (paid) to SEK, INS
    SM-S90*E (asia) - Snapdragon - via Samkey (paid) to XXV, THL, ILO (or via ODIN (free) flash to XID)
    SM-S90*U (us) - Snapdragon - no CSC with call recording
    SM-S90*U1 (us) - Snapdragon - no CSC with call recording
    SM-S90*W (canada) - Snapdragon - no CSC with call recording
    SM-S90*N (china) - Snapdragon - no CSC with call recording
    SM-S90*0 (korea) - Snapdragon - no CSC with call recording
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    For SM-S908E (SnapDragon):
    XID is SingleCSC and do not exist in MultiCSC, so can not be changed/switched by Samkey.
    The only option to change CSC to XID is flashing with ODIN. If flash with files: BL_, AP_, CP_ and HOME_CSC_ - it will not reset (with CSC_ instead of HOME_CSC_ phone will be factory reset)
    XID:
    - have call record,
    - do not have Samsung Pay (it have SPay but it is an Infonesian custom version with their local banks only, can not be changed with international SPay)
    - do not have internal spam, but can be used Hiya app (from PlayStore for any CSC)


    These CSC are from MultyCSC - all CSC are inside the firmware - and can be switched/chaged via Samkey at the moment (methods with local SIM, modded theme, Dialer code are fixed and not work long time ago, combination firmware works but no available files for current bootloaders)

    INS (India) have call record, SPay and and spam
    XXV (Vietnam) have call record, SPay, no int.spam but Hiya work
    THL have call record, spam, but SPay discontinued last year
    ILO have call record, other not sure (less updated, not every month, Jewish extra security)

    All CSC installs have specific bloatware apps (some can not be uninstalled but can be disabled via PC with adb or some package disabler via phpne)

    INS is better choice for E model.

    ---

    For SM-S908B (Exynos):
    Only SEK (Ukraine) via Samkey have Call recording, no SPay, no spam, but Hiya works

    ---

    For SM-S908 U, U1, W, N, 0 (SnapDragon):
    No know/available CSCs with call recording

    Using Samkey to chage CSC to one that not exist inside the exact same (U, U1, W, N, or 0) region of MultiCSC - do nothing, just lose one Samkey credit and CSC stays same.

    Flashing U, U1, W, N, 0 device via ODIN with E firmware is NOT possible because different models (even all are SnapDragon CPUs).
    9
    Bad news for people with S22 SM-S908B (Exynos) who used INS CSC (the one from E (snapdragon) model to have Call recorfing, anti-spam callerID and Samsung Pay.
    Until now we just make updates manually (BL, CP, AP, HOME_CSC) every month with any B FW (for example EUX) and were was up to date.

    BUT ....

    from version S908BXXU2AVH9 - Samsung removed the glitch ... so no more INS for B model ... CSC returns to EUX (or original CSC) and call recording, internal andti-spam callerID and Samsung Pay were gone.


    At the moment the ONLY working CSC with Call Recording is SEK (Ukraine).

    So with SEK (plus and minus):
    + Call recoeding works
    - no internal anti-spam callerID (Hiya as app can be used from playstore)
    - no SPay (the re is no working option at the meoment)
    + OTA firmware updates will work (via Setting menu).
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    They write on the web that it is not supported, but it is not true. I risked it and it works! So S22u is my daily from today.

    1. Turn on the developer mod
    2. Enable usb debugging
    3. buy credit on samkey (on the web or ebay)
    4. Install SamKEY CodeReader
    5. connect the phone to the PC
    6. turn on samKEY, log in and change CSC.

    1645435142483.png


    This operation didn't seem to reset my phone. But I can't guarantee it.


    screenshot of my CSC version:

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    I would also like to recommend the "AutoSync" application, which automatically uploads all your recorded calls to Dropbox. It all works on the S22u.
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    Thanks for your informative reply.

    So for me, my best option is to get Samkey credit and just do the simple Samkey procedure to change my CSC to INS (INDIA) ? Right?

    Do you or anyone know if INS (INDIA) CSC would caused any feature to be unusable? Like Google Pay? Samsung Health with Samsung Watch? And will INS CSC have bloatware apps? Like?

    And last noob question from me, does changing your phone CSC affect your phone BANDS / Frequency ?
    I am using INS (Not changed CSC but I am living in India)
    No carrier bloatware except one My Galaxy. All features like GPay,SPay,S Health,Spam Call, Call Recording are working fine
    My personal opinion about CSC changing
    1.For Non Rooted device - Go with SamKey
    2.For rooted users - Instead of changing CSC just modify your own CSC file and get desired features. OR use a ROM with preactivated features