Security updates???

[jason504]

So let's say that Samsung have a little server, it has all of the carrier and non carrier approved ota files there. Now the people with their note 8s hit software update, it goes to Samsung with the model number (unique to region etc) and the CSC which then tells it what carrier owns the phone. From this they send the update down. Now the CSC cannot be changed from inserting a sim card, you would have to flash a carrier ROm to change this or buy the phone from the carrier.

If I have a carrier SIM or not, I will always get the update relevant to my model and CSC.

I have confirmed this as my CSC hasn't changed, and I still have the international unlocked model number and my local (australia) non carrier CSC.

Further proved wrong, is that if I put a Verizon SIM in my phone, it would get me the sd version right? While I have the Exynos. So it would break my phone lol. Anyway I was in the U.S and used T-Mobile SIM and got no updates.

Then your phone is jacked up because Tmoblie got updates before any carrier

 

[OnlinePredator]

Then your phone is jacked up because Tmoblie got updates before any carrier

Nope, just proof it doesn't matter about your SIM, but your model and CSC.

Attached is proof I am still on xsa CSC (which is Australian unlocked no carrier). Which shows that my carrier SIM (Optus) had not changed my model number or CSC. Also the SIM card didn't change the Exynos CPU to a Snapdragon CPU.

T-Mobile is Snapdragon CPU btw, it would break my phone if I got that update.

For those saying that they are getting t-mobile updates or verizon updates when they have the unlocked model, post your service provider sw version details as I have, and obviously this doesn't count if you bought the unlocked phone from verizon or t-mobile as then they aren't the international unlocked models - just carrier unlocked models.

 

[jason504]

Nope, just proof it doesn't matter about your SIM, but your model and CSC.

Attached is proof I am still on xsa CSC (which is Australian unlocked no carrier). Which shows that my carrier SIM (Optus) had not changed my model number or CSC. Also the SIM card didn't change the Exynos CPU to a Snapdragon CPU.

T-Mobile is Snapdragon CPU btw, it would break my phone if I got that update.

For those saying that they are getting t-mobile updates or verizon updates when they have the unlocked model, post your service provider sw version details as I have, and obviously this doesn't count if you bought the unlocked phone from verizon or t-mobile as then they aren't the international unlocked models - just carrier unlocked models.

Yes it does prove that. Everyone with a ATT Note 8 has the update. So what do you think Samsung says Hey let's give att customers the update and Verizon customers can wait? You said yourself that you have a unlocked phone with no Sim card in it and your on August update? Just like I said before I screwed my phone up by updating it without uninstalling Sub. I went to ATT and told them what happened and they confirmed that they pushed a update to all Note 8s. Now I don't know for sure about unlocked phones from Australia but if you have a Note from a carrier they are the ones pushing these updates. So this all started with a guy on Verizon saying he has not received a update and was blaming Samsung when it's not their fault.

 

[OnlinePredator]

Yes it does prove that. Everyone with a ATT Note 8 has the update. So what do you think Samsung says Hey let's give att customers the update and Verizon customers can wait? You said yourself that you have a unlocked phone with no Sim card in it and your on August update? Just like I said before I screwed my phone up by updating it without uninstalling Sub. I went to ATT and told them what happened and they confirmed that they pushed a update to all Note 8s. Now I don't know for sure about unlocked phones from Australia but if you have a Note from a carrier they are the ones pushing these updates. So this all started with a guy on Verizon saying he has not received a update and was blaming Samsung when it's not their fault.

Hey mate just to help you out, carrier unlocked is different to no carrier unlocked. If you buy your unlocked phone from TMobile or Verizon, you have the TMobile or Verizon model which have their own CSC which determines what OTA you get. Your ATT Note 8 is in fact an ATT version of the Note 8, and has a CSC of ATT or similar and probably has the ATT bloat installed too. Your region would be United states so you have the Snapdragon variant. My region is Australia so I have Exyons, while I do not have a carrier so it is listed as my region which is australia so my SCS is XSA and I have no carrier bloat installed on my phone.

You can also buy carrier free models which have been very popular in the past with Samsung as they usually always get the update first. They are generally called the International Unlocked model. This means that the carrier is set to the region, rather than a carrier.

So for this version of the Note 8, there are no carriers blocking the updates.

I hope you understand this concept which has been around since the Galaxy S2 of international unlocked models.

 

[sefrcoko]

I hope you understand this concept which has been around since the Galaxy S2 of international unlocked models.

To be fair, Samsung has sucked at providing updates since that time too. I hope you can understand this isn't a new development. Definitely frustrating to find out this way though. Samsung has at least become a little better with providing updates over the last few years, but hopefully they become a lot better

 

[OnlinePredator]

To be fair, Samsung has sucked at providing updates since that time too. I hope you can understand this isn't a new development. Definitely frustrating to find out this way though. Samsung has at least become a little better with providing updates over the last few years, but hopefully they become a lot better

This is the first time they said they would do monthly updates. Which they have, on carrier versions lol which coincidentally is the first time that International unlocked models are not only a little behind, but VERY behind in updates.

 

[ClevelandWheeler]

So this new update will stop the hacked mobile hotspot?

 

[tolymatev]

2 days after October update, Verizon pushed out November update.
Carrier doesn't matter if you bought unlocked phone from Samsung that has original Samsung software. Those updates will come from Samsung directly.
I have Verizon software because when i turn the phone on, i get that bright white Verizon screen that i hate. So Verizon pushes my updates.

 

[thedicemaster]

they finally started releasing an update for the unlocked model.
I've been stuck on the August update since I got this phone, and today it finally found an update(last previous manual check was on the 5th)

 

[OnlinePredator]

Yay finally on the November security update....Now just have to wait for Exynos Oreo leak....already Snapdragon...

 

[sethsmaxx]

Ok quick question just bought new note 8 unlocked snapdragon 835 model, i am on the factory load firmware, i have checked the box for not allowing updates to firmware or software whichever you call it, i dont want anything changed its perfect the way it was born! But this new security update had a notification saying it was ready to download, but i hit closed will it keep bothering me? Or download without my permission even though i checked the i do not want any stupid updates box?

 

[fogame]

Ok quick question just bought new note 8 unlocked snapdragon 835 model, i am on the factory load firmware, i have checked the box for not allowing updates to firmware or software whichever you call it, i dont want anything changed its perfect the way it was born! But this new security update had a notification saying it was ready to download, but i hit closed will it keep bothering me? Or download without my permission even though i checked the i do not want any stupid updates box?

Eventually it will force the update. The best way to disable the update is to use BK package disable.

 

[sethsmaxx]

Is there any computer program i can use to freeze the update apk for free?

 

[fogame]

Is there any computer program i can use to freeze the update apk for free?

I believe adb can but not sure....dont quote me on it. Kve always used BK package disable

 

[sethsmaxx]

Can i use debloater for windows?

---------- Post added at 05:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:58 PM ----------

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...your-android-device-no-root-required-0161819/

Im going to try using this method first then if this doesnt work i will pay for the app you mentioned, there are already reports of shorter battery life and phone heating up due to the security update. And im getting 20 hrs on battery with original firmware, no issues very stable.

 

[jason504]

Can i use debloater for windows?

---------- Post added at 05:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:58 PM ----------

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...your-android-device-no-root-required-0161819/

Im going to try using this method first then if this doesnt work i will pay for the app you mentioned, there are already reports of shorter battery life and phone heating up due to the security update. And im getting 20 hrs on battery with original firmware, no issues very stable.

I have installed all the updates to date and nothing changed as far as battery life or the phone heating up.

 

[sethsmaxx]

I have installed all the updates to date and nothing changed as far as battery life or the phone heating up.

Either way i will have to disable it because i wont want oreo ive already got used to nouget.

 

[KruseLudsMobile]

Yes I had a September update available as soon as I purchased the phone in October... Then nothing for a long time until a couple days ago there was an update... and then a day later another one. My guess is Verizon dropped the ball and in a rush to catch up they put out a buggy update, and then rushed to fix it!

 

[sethsmaxx]

Eventually it will force the update. The best way to disable the update is to use BK package disable.

How can you confirm this if i have updates turned off, it shouldnt be able to do that. It does give a message about the update but i just hit later and it goes away for another 2 weeks... Im still trying to find another way to stop the messages without the bk app freeze.

 

[fogame]

How can you confirm this if i have updates turned off, it shouldnt be able to do that. It does give a message about the update but i just hit later and it goes away for another 2 weeks... Im still trying to find another way to stop the messages without the bk app freeze.

Bk package disablebis tbe best way. There are ways on how to do it via adb on xda however.