Slugishness and inconveniences with Manilla 3D

[Alcibiade]

The title is a bit of a provocation to attract people to the thread
To start with: animation, menus, etc... are quite fluid (Though less than on my M2D custom Rom on my Hermes, but that's not my point here, secreen def is much higher and it's 3D...)
My problem (that mya have I fix, at least I hope so) is quite specific:
In some menus accessing to data is VERY slow and I dont understand why

1. When accessing to a contact (So clicking from the lists of contats) it takes several seconds to have the contact details appear. This is VERY annoying. Does it come from my numer of contacts (900), I dont think so... It looks a bit like something is being downloaded, or some extra info put in memory... difficult to tell but anywya I would like to kow if you have the same problem

2. When accessing SMS from Manilla 3d... it takes ages to open the first SMS in the pile or to open "All messages". It's quite weird: if I swap through the task manager to the SMS application... it switches in an instant. If I have the SMS application already open and try to access it through the manila 3D...
(I have quite a lot of SMS, but less than emails, or which it is less slow)

I noticed some similar slowlyness in some otehr parts but just cant remeber where

Otherwise to bith about about Manilla 3D (that I do still really like... at least froma "look" point of view): too many important menus are missing compared to WM6.1 original menus. Like choose which folder you can activesync within your email folders, or save a phone number from a newly received SMS into an existing contact (Can only sve in a new one...). Etc, etc...
Anyway to chose which original WM6.1 menus are prompted / not prompted ?

 

[ohyeahar]

To address your pts...

1. I think the lag has to do with the new "People-centric" contact card. It take a little time to gather all emails, calls, and messages with a particular person. You probably won't experience this lag if you use the default Windows Mobile contact app.

2. What I mentioned in 1 applies here too. So, I never click the messages directly in TF3D because this actually opens the contact card. I keep the messaging app opened at all times. Just click All Messages to quickly see the threaded conversation if you have to. If you use "Reply" from TF3D, the composing window will also open faster (if you have the messaging app opened already)

 

[Alcibiade]

1. Agreed that's what I suspect... But I dont have the proof. Yes the default Windows Mobile App is much faster
There must be a workaround like starting to open what is immediately available for the contact while loading the rest in the bakground
Unfortunately this may be a litle too deep and needs a different code --> not fixable with some regedit
Hopefully we are wrong. The "people-centric" thing is on of the reason why I like the TP2 (Definitely not the only one) and if this means waiting 3 to 4 seconds to open a contact, HTC just ****** up on it (It's not acceptable when you need to open several contacts)

2. Yes I use already only "All message" since clicking on the message takes ages to open
BUT even "All messages" is still very slow compared to open the messaging app (I do always keep the messaging app open)

All in all it's nice to offer good looking features, but if the price is such a sluggishness I think there is nothing to be proud of
Luckily HTC will improve this with time (But still, it's really annoying)

 

[ohyeahar]

... waiting 3 to 4 seconds to open a contact...

Haha, you must be exaggerating. Just to keep things sane around here, the time lag is about 1 second to open the unified communications contact card. This is compared to the approximately 0.5 seconds to open the contact details in the default WinMo contact app. If you try to open the SMS or Email section of the contact card, it does take about 2-3 seconds...

BUT even "All messages" is still very slow compared to open the messaging app (I do always keep the messaging app open)

Not sure what you mean on this part. Doesn't clicking "All messages" in TF3D open the default messaging app?

 

[Alcibiade]

Then I must have a problem with my device (or my ocntacts (I have nearly 1,000). I just tried one contact right now from the list of all contacts: 12 seconds (Yeah befoire I was just giving an estimate...). I tried anoterh one , 17 seconds... (Piture or no picture doesnt change anything)
These figures is rom opening a contact from the list of all contacts in TF3D
I guess you understand how annoyd I am... And cliking on "Back" to come back from the list of contacts to the main menu (WHer you see "Add favorites") takes 5 seconds
I really hope to find a solution...

For the last part, sorry my mistake it's when I click on the messages tab that it takes around 4 seconds to have the messages menu and I na click on the bottom left menu "All messages" (Then after it's quick)

I have a serious problem with my TF3D...

Haha, you must be exaggerating. Just to keep things sane around here, the time lag is about 1 second to open the unified communications contact card. This is compared to the approximately 0.5 seconds to open the contact details in the default WinMo contact app. If you try to open the SMS or Email section of the contact card, it does take about 2-3 seconds...



Not sure what you mean on this part. Doesn't clicking "All messages" in TF3D open the default messaging app?

 

[Alcibiade]

The very interesting thing is if I open the same contact by clicking at its name from let's say an email, it's nearly instantaneous (like half a second)
What's wrong with my phone ?? Anybody with the same issue ?

 

[crazy talk]

your insane amount of contacts are prolly slowing everything down.

 

[gunggu]

a 1000 contacs is normal, i have more than 1500 on my TP2
its true that TF3D sometimes slow, i mean, those things sometimes happen also to me, but not always, only sometimes, maybe when the TP2 processess a lot or memory almost done for

 

[SuperAdvan]

1000 contacts is alot but this is a business device so that really shouldnt be a problem imho.

Though I doubt WM uses any kind of clever database method for storing them, not like SQL Server mobile is installed on the phone with Intel QuadCore, so I think some slowdown is to be expected mate tbh

 

[Alcibiade]

Yes it's a professional device 1,000 contacts should not be an issue (Actually it's mostly friends, but let's say that for a geek I enjoy quite a crazy social life)
Anyway it was handled properly on my Hermes with Manilla 2D. I am very disapointed it is not the case with the TP2
Again the very strange thing is if I open the contact by clicking on name in my emails title, I get the contact file to open nearly immediately. If it's from the list of contacts... 10 seconds at least. This doenst make sense

 

[michaelra]

and I hate the fact that you have to "slide" to accept/reject the call. I mean come on, it's cool and all that but it's not user friendly!

So many times my calls got missed because a friend didn't understand how to accept the call for me (it was too late whenever they read that "Slide to Answer/Ignore" text)

 

[radiowc]

and I hate the fact that you have to "slide" to accept/reject the call. I mean come on, it's cool and all that but it's not user friendly!

So many times my calls got missed because a friend didn't understand how to accept the call for me (it was too late whenever they read that "Slide to Answer/Ignore" text)

Ha! you don't necessary have to slide to "Answer the call". You can always just press the hardware Answer button (left answer call key) to answer it. That will solved your problem

 

[Alcibiade]

Anybody on my open contact issue ?