SM T865 - T860 One UI 3.1 Android 11 - updates - general discussion

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Arobase40

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    I just purchased a S7 directly from Samsung. After a $100 dicount, and $500 for trading in my S6, I'm only paying $50 for it.

    Waooh !!!

    I tried to know how much Samsung France would give me for my Galaxy Tab S6 T860 in trading with a Galaxy S7+ but the Tab S6 was even not mentioned in the list and I have also an Cover Keyboard which is different with the one used but the Galaxy Tab S7+...

    I guess I'll have to place a call to Samsung to know much they would give me for this Tab S6...

    On another way I'm also afraid if it would be more difficult to install TWRP with Magisk with the Tab S7+...
     

    Evil_Smiley_za

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    Dumbass question: if we're using wifi only and intending to flash only the Home-CSC anyway, is there any reason not to update to whatever country's got the newest firmware. Example: Germany just released CUC1 (which has already been out for Taiwan for a few weeks). In Canada they're just on CUB7. Why wouldn't a Canada wifi-only user simply update to Taiwan or Germany CUC1 right now?
    No reason. You can do it. I am from XFA to DBT firmware. Hovever the XFA firmare form part of the OXJ Multi-CSC and DBT is part of the OXM Multi-CSC firmware. If you do this I would suggest you do not flash the HOME-CSC as your device will change CSC. Backup your device and flash the firmware you want but with the CSC and not HOME-CSC. My device is now on the DBT OXM region and it was on the XFA OJM. Just select the correct county on first boot and setup device for my county without any issues. I am on a T865 with LTE and the SIM and data works. I also receive the new updates faster now as XFA is one of the last devices to receive updates. Even XFV is faster and that firmware is VodaCom branded. Hope this helps you...... XFA firmware is still today on android 10. With DBT I have received my second Android 11 update by now.
     
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    Arobase40

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    I don't now or ever had a carrier tablet. All of my tablets were wifi only. I use Verizon for my phone only.

    Well I don't understand very well your link which shows different carrier names and the one you got is a 128 GB which is too low to me and I'm more interested about a Tab S7+ with 512 GB storage which is not sold by Samsung for some unknown reasons, but available only through Amazon US and Wallmart US I guess.
    On a second hand as I live outside the US (in Europe) I can't buy any of these products directly from Samsung US or Wallmart but only from Amazon US but with no trading...
    In France and the rest of Europe we only have 128 and 256 GB models and the trading is only available in the country where we live...
     
    Well I don't understand very well your link which shows different carrier names and the one you got is a 128 GB which is too low to me and I'm more interested about a Tab S7+ with 512 GB storage which is not sold by Samsung for some unknown reasons, but available only through Amazon US and Wallmart US I guess.
    On a second hand as I live outside the US (in Europe) I can't buy any of these products directly from Samsung US or Wallmart but only from Amazon US but with no trading...
    In France and the rest of Europe we only have 128 and 256 GB models and the trading is only available in the country where we live...
    The first choice on the link is WIFI version and then carrier versions. I'm not sure if there is something happening when you go to that link because the S7+ is listed there for $249.99. $200 more than the S7. There is also a 512gb option for them both. I can't tell you how the promotion works outside of the U.S. Attached is a partial screen shot from that link.

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    Arobase40

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    The first choice on the link is WIFI version and then carrier versions. I'm not sure if there is something happening when you go to that link because the S7+ is listed there for $249.99. $200 more than the S7. There is also a 512gb option for them both. I can't tell you how the promotion works outside of the U.S. Attached is a partial screen shot from that link.

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    Na yeah

    In any way there is no option at all to import any articles from Samsung.com as we need an US address for the shipping. No need to either mention the custom fees...

    I have tried some months ago and it was simply impossible !
    We have to ask to our local Samsung what we can expect and as we have specific taxes depending on the countries... ^^

    On anther hand I also hesitate between a Galaxy Tab S7+ and the Galaxy Chromebook 2020 AMOLED but only available in the US for the latter...
     

    Arobase40

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    No reason. You can do it. I am from XFA to DBT firmware. Hovever the XFA firmare form part of the OXJ Multi-CSC and DBT is part of the OXM Multi-CSC firmware. If you do this I would suggest you do not flash the HOME-CSC as your device will change CSC. Backup your device and flash the firmware you want but with the CSC and not HOME-CSC. My device is now on the DBT OXM region and it was on the XFA OJM. Just select the correct county on first boot and setup device for my county without any issues. I am on a T865 with LTE and the SIM and data works. I also receive the new updates faster now as XFA is one of the last devices to receive updates. Even XFV is faster and that firmware is VodaCom branded. Hope this helps you...... XFA firmware is still today on android 10. With DBT I have received my second Android 11 update by now.

    Well I just missed this post and I don't really understand what is your position and your intention but our advice is mostly incorrect as changing your CSC can have very bad side effects such as missing or incorrect frequencies with 4G-LTE/5G or even Wifi.
    Another side effect is you can be charged extra costs depending on your carrier...

    So the best thing to do is to keep your actual CSC in flashing the HOME-CSC file.

    So you better be aware of the consequences at changing your CSC !
     

    Evil_Smiley_za

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    Well I just missed this post and I don't really understand what is your position and your intention but our advice is mostly incorrect as changing your CSC can have very bad side effects such as missing or incorrect frequencies with 4G-LTE/5G or even Wifi.
    Another side effect is you can be charged extra costs depending on your carrier...

    So the best thing to do is to keep your actual CSC in flashing the HOME-CSC file.

    So you better be aware of the consequences at changing your CSC !
    Clearly you did not think before posting this reply. Using a local sim in the local country on a LTE device will have zero consequences on charges no matter the CSC. The device supports most of the LTE frequencies and WiFi is either 2.4 or 5.8 GHz as those do not change around the world. Maybe just channel numbers within the band but the band stays the same. The only country's that might be a problem is Korea and USA. Maybe read the specks of the device before making your statements. The only things I might lose is VoLTE witch most of us do not use any way and that has to be supported by your SIM card. I changed CSC to DBT and can say that I have zero problems with my device. It work exactly as it did with the XFA firmware. The only differnce is I get faster updates. And as I do not wait for OTA updates I always keep my devices updated by flashing the new firmware with HOME_CSC. You cannot say it would not work or will have consequences as I can and will say I have done it without any issues. Let the user decide what he wants to do with his device and who are you to tell him or her differently? Even secure apps like banking and pay tv apps works 100% without any issues...... Have a awesome day....
     

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    Clearly you did not think before posting this reply. Using a local sim in the local country on a LTE device will have zero consequences on charges no matter the CSC. The device supports most of the LTE frequencies and WiFi is either 2.4 or 5.8 GHz as those do not change around the world. Maybe just channel numbers within the band but the band stays the same. The only country's that might be a problem is Korea and USA. Maybe read the specks of the device before making your statements. The only things I might lose is VoLTE witch most of us do not use any way and that has to be supported by your SIM card. I changed CSC to DBT and can say that I have zero problems with my device. It work exactly as it did with the XFA firmware. The only differnce is I get faster updates. And as I do not wait for OTA updates I always keep my devices updated by flashing the new firmware with HOME_CSC. You cannot say it would not work or will have consequences as I can and will say I have done it without any issues. Let the user decide what he wants to do with his device and who are you to tell him or her differently? Even secure apps like banking and pay tv apps works 100% without any issues...... Have a awesome day....

    Obviously with your narrow mind you don't know what you are talking about as you only talk about your own case without taking into account the specificities of other countries of which you know nothing, including the frequencies used in your own country, while I was not only talking about LTE...

    Because when you mention the XFA CSC, I guess you were talking about South Africa and unless I am mistaken, this country does not use the 700 MHz (B28) and 800 MHz (B20) bands while these bands would still be dedicated to analog TV while at the same time MTM uses the 900 MHz band for both 4G/3G/2G and IOT, which is not the case everywhere in the world...
    Because apart from the case of South Korea and the USA, you are also forgetting China, a country with which there have been many problems of compatibility with imported smartphones and in particular with the 800 MHz band, even if this is less true nowadays.

    After that, you are certainly lucky to have a mobile operator that doesn't use these frequencies, but that doesn't mean that this is the case everywhere.

    Even within Europe there are many disparities/differences even between different operators in the same country...

    But I was also thinking about another problem that I personally encountered since for a few months I had a Galaxy A50 and at that time there were no custom roms and I absolutely wanted to have the phone recording function which was not available by default and only available in very few countries.
    After having informed me on XDA or other sources, I did the test to install the Indian CSC with a French firmware.

    So, yes after this operation the phone recording function was working but the counterpart is that I realized on my phone bill that the phone was sending by itself SMS outside the EU and therefore they became paid... ^^
    After having put back a European CSC these problems had disappeared but the phone recording function also obviously.

    After many more tries I finally briked the A50 but fortunately I was refunded...

    On a second hand I still have my Galaxy Note 9 with which I can find regularly many good custom roms and I don't have to care about this issue anymore !
    Have a awesome day....
     

    Arobase40

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    Well, actually this discussion is not as brutal or rude as it seems but it is simply a little "vigorous" so that everyone finds his marks and the level of testosterone not to exceed... :D


    After that, what is better : a honeyed discussion without any content or a lively, energetic and virile discussion bringing constructive elements ?
    That said, I think that some people will have understood that it is better to turn seven times their tongue in their mouth before addressing me in this way and that I am not the noob that some people imagine I seem to be... ^^
     
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    Hello! some people are saying: after upgrading my device Tab S6 to One UI 3.1, widevine L1 is downgraded to L3.
    Is it true? ... if yes, it is realy bad!!!
     

    Evil_Smiley_za

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    It happened to me. My S6 CSC changed from ZTO to DBT when I updatet it to Android 11 via ODIN. No problems at all. Works fine as always.
    Did you use the firmware for your region or the DBT firmware? I used the firmware for my region and it changed the CSC to another region. Very weird. The tablet works 100% its just something I noticed.
     

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      Glad to hear m8 :)
      Still no OTA here .... .
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      I've Just downloaded CUE1 (DBT) via OTA. S Pen to text finally available.
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      SamDownloader shows UE2 with May patches for T860 is up at DBT (Germany), but it hasn't come to my region either.
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      How does one use the tablet as a pc screen? It's in the changelog
      I guess they lied everyone wants that feature and only the s7 has it. Even though it's in the changelog. Same thing with the s 10 lite it said it had object eraser in the camera in change log and it doesn't. Lol unreal samsung sucks. You have to buy the best and latest model every year to get the updates. Next year they do it again android oneui 4.0 will be on the next tablet and they will give it all the updates than when the s7 gets updated they will leave out all the cool features.
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      I flashed with Odin normally, booted up to install Magisk Manager, patched the AP file in Magisk and flashed the magisk tar file on Odin(AP), did a factory reset afterwards and all worked out well.

      I don't think TWRP works with One UI 3.1, though I haven't tried.

      TWRP does work with Android 11 OneUI 3.1 but it's suck painful !!!

      Watch out at my other post how I did it and with which version and as explained by Techguy777 You have to keep your Tab S6 hooked to a computer with the USB-C cable if Android 11 OneUI 3.1 is already installed, after you flash TWRP and reboot manually as explained in mentalmuso's thread.

      Thanks to them both : Techguy777 and mentalmuso for the tip ! ;)
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      Do you mean the official update to android 11?
      I don't believe it will come before next spring ... . Do you have any other official info??
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      read this,
      which states may 2021. but plenty of time for further delays. samsung needs to cut the number of devices they make if they can not keep up with the software updates.
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      Clearly you did not think before posting this reply. Using a local sim in the local country on a LTE device will have zero consequences on charges no matter the CSC. The device supports most of the LTE frequencies and WiFi is either 2.4 or 5.8 GHz as those do not change around the world. Maybe just channel numbers within the band but the band stays the same. The only country's that might be a problem is Korea and USA. Maybe read the specks of the device before making your statements. The only things I might lose is VoLTE witch most of us do not use any way and that has to be supported by your SIM card. I changed CSC to DBT and can say that I have zero problems with my device. It work exactly as it did with the XFA firmware. The only differnce is I get faster updates. And as I do not wait for OTA updates I always keep my devices updated by flashing the new firmware with HOME_CSC. You cannot say it would not work or will have consequences as I can and will say I have done it without any issues. Let the user decide what he wants to do with his device and who are you to tell him or her differently? Even secure apps like banking and pay tv apps works 100% without any issues...... Have a awesome day....

      Obviously with your narrow mind you don't know what you are talking about as you only talk about your own case without taking into account the specificities of other countries of which you know nothing, including the frequencies used in your own country, while I was not only talking about LTE...

      Because when you mention the XFA CSC, I guess you were talking about South Africa and unless I am mistaken, this country does not use the 700 MHz (B28) and 800 MHz (B20) bands while these bands would still be dedicated to analog TV while at the same time MTM uses the 900 MHz band for both 4G/3G/2G and IOT, which is not the case everywhere in the world...
      Because apart from the case of South Korea and the USA, you are also forgetting China, a country with which there have been many problems of compatibility with imported smartphones and in particular with the 800 MHz band, even if this is less true nowadays.

      After that, you are certainly lucky to have a mobile operator that doesn't use these frequencies, but that doesn't mean that this is the case everywhere.

      Even within Europe there are many disparities/differences even between different operators in the same country...

      But I was also thinking about another problem that I personally encountered since for a few months I had a Galaxy A50 and at that time there were no custom roms and I absolutely wanted to have the phone recording function which was not available by default and only available in very few countries.
      After having informed me on XDA or other sources, I did the test to install the Indian CSC with a French firmware.

      So, yes after this operation the phone recording function was working but the counterpart is that I realized on my phone bill that the phone was sending by itself SMS outside the EU and therefore they became paid... ^^
      After having put back a European CSC these problems had disappeared but the phone recording function also obviously.

      After many more tries I finally briked the A50 but fortunately I was refunded...

      On a second hand I still have my Galaxy Note 9 with which I can find regularly many good custom roms and I don't have to care about this issue anymore !
      Have a awesome day....
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      Does anyone have a changelog for the latest update that came out a couple of days ago?
      Just flashed it via Odin.

      https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T865/DBT/doc.html

      Settings/Software Update/last Update/link should bring you there too.
      m.