SMS size tweak?

licht77

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Does anybody know how to change/tweak the actual maximum size of a sms? I know that my network should be cabable of sending / receiving messages up to 750 characters... but the standard WM6 client only accepts 160 characters and would split additional chars into several sms.

Any ideas?
 

stozmon

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Does anybody know how to change/tweak the actual maximum size of a sms? I know that my network should be cabable of sending / receiving messages up to 750 characters... but the standard WM6 client only accepts 160 characters and would split additional chars into several sms.

Any ideas?
Network capapbilities have no bearing on SMS (Short Message Service), it is the SMS protocol itself that limits the message size.

"Transmission of short messages between the SMSC and the handset is done using the Mobile Application Part (MAP) of the SS7 protocol. Messages are sent with the MAP mo- and mt-ForwardSM operations, whose payload length is limited by the constraints of the signalling protocol to precisely 140 octets (140 octets = 140 * 8 bits = 1120 bits). Short messages can be encoded using a variety of alphabets: the default GSM 7-bit alphabet (shown below), the 8-bit data alphabet, and the 16-bit UTF-16/UCS-2 alphabet.[19] Depending on which alphabet the subscriber has configured in the handset, this leads to the maximum individual Short Message sizes of 160 7-bit characters, 140 8-bit characters, or 70 16-bit characters. Support of the GSM 7-bit alphabet is mandatory for GSM handsets and network elements,[19] but characters in languages such as Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese or Slavic languages (e.g. Russian) must be encoded using the 16-bit UCS-2 character encoding (see Unicode). Routing data and other metadata is additional to the payload size."
 

GilesTheAlmighty

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if a message is sent in multiple parts, if your handest supports it correctly it will join it back up when you receive it, for example WM6 supports it on Orange UK, and i've recevied a 4 page (160 * 4) character text all in one single message! the sender sent it in 4 parts

hope that clears it up a little
 

SH4YD33

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By the way, isn't it about time they adopt a new protocol? SMS made sense like 10 years ago, with those 1-line displays.
True.. but that is up to the service providers. you gotta realize they're out to make money off each message.. Kinda sucks if you accidentally type 161 chars..

What i noticed tho is that if someone sends our ppcs texts that are more than 1 message they still come as one message.
 

Smaniac

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True.. but that is up to the service providers. you gotta realize they're out to make money off each message.. Kinda sucks if you accidentally type 161 chars..

What i noticed tho is that if someone sends our ppcs texts that are more than 1 message they still come as one message.
Yep, I think most phones today do that, at least my old Symbian one did and my current Linux one does too, they concatenate the multiple messages. What I'm worried about is exactly the price. Even though I never paid for an SMS in my life (my provider has SMS bonuses for pre-paid plans), some people do pay and they use it a lot.
 

dgduris

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Yep, I think most phones today do that, at least my old Symbian one did and my current Linux one does too, they concatenate the multiple messages. What I'm worried about is exactly the price. Even though I never paid for an SMS in my life (my provider has SMS bonuses for pre-paid plans), some people do pay and they use it a lot.
WinMob phones Don't do that. My old Symbian one did it too. But, my old P910 did several things that my Tilt can't.
 

stozmon

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if a message is sent in multiple parts, if your handest supports it correctly it will join it back up when you receive it, for example WM6 supports it on Orange UK, and i've recevied a 4 page (160 * 4) character text all in one single message! the sender sent it in 4 parts

hope that clears it up a little
Thanks for the clarification. ;)