Snapdragon vs exynos: A long time joke from Samsung.

Which note10 + variant would you buy should you have a free choice?


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Inerent

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I wonder what is people point of view regarding this long time issue. The exynos 9825 is by far a worse soc compared to snapdragon 855. It can maybe be compared with an almost 2 year old soc, the snapdragon 845.
This is simply unacceptable. The exynos and the snapdragon variants are equally priced and the former underperforms heavily for 3rd year in a row.
I am not upgrading to note 10 plus, will stick to my exynos note9 and wait for a proper flagship with a 855 or 855+.
I suspect that Samsung did not put the 855+ because the difference in benchmarks would be ridiculously different between exynos 9825 and 855+ variant.
So now that the dust gas settled, I will ask again... "Why do there have to be two variants anyway? Why do they bother to go with two?"

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1. Extra cash
2. Government spy
3. Samsung backup plan in chip business - keeping alive its chip.
 

Inerent

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Can you elaborate on #2, even if speculation? It would be entertaining to hear...

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Don't get me wrong, I am suspecting both the Qualcomm trust zone and the Exynos to have some key access based backdoor. Apple also. Huawei also. But as for the Qualcomm of I really think the acces is only by the United States. That's one reason why it's sold in Hong Kong also.
 

andy242

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So now that the dust gas settled, I will ask again... "Why do there have to be two variants anyway? Why do they bother to go with two?"

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I think/thought it was related to bands used? Some exynos bands dont work in usa and Visa versa with the snapdragon. Plus perhaps Samsung don't have the capacity to make enough exynos chips?

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smentoma

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Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.

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Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.

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In English?
I understand your urge to support exynos against all odds but are you able to elaborate?
 

RR-99

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Sorry OP but I think you are over doing this.
The Exynos is slower in some tests and the Snapdragon in others. In every case the difference is so small that it can only be found in careful bench tests.
There is no way you can tell which processor is in the phone just by using it.
I bought the 10+ because it is the best phone out there at the moment., and I was happy to accept whatever silicon was in there.
It does everything I want at lightning speed, and gives me 7.5 hours of screen time.
That satisfies me and I'm content to leave it to Samsung to decide what parts they put in it.
 

liamR

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Sorry OP but I think you are over doing this.
The Exynos is slower in some tests and the Snapdragon in others. In every case the difference is so small that it can only be found in careful bench tests.
There is no way you can tell which processor is in the phone just by using it.
I bought the 10+ because it is the best phone out there at the moment., and I was happy to accept whatever silicon was in there.
It does everything I want at lightning speed, and gives me 7.5 hours of screen time.
That satisfies me and I'm content to leave it to Samsung to decide what parts they put in it.
That's not entirely true... Overall performance of SD is much greater than the Exynos especially on graphics where you can see lower FPS and sometimes hangs on the Exynos.
 

pittas

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Lol i understand that it's not fun to hear that exynos is worse than snapdragon but you payed same price.
In defense a lot of people are saying they re not perceiving anything different, as if they have the actual 2 phones to compare. The only ones who did this are those who run benchmarks in YouTube, and the gap is there, 3rd year in a row.
It's nothing new.
So instead of being a fanboy just accept it. Samsung blew this up, again. This year they didn't even put the best soc, 855+, just because in that case the discrepancy would be huge.
 

nds850

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The single-core score is actually a bit higher for the Exynos.
The GPU performance is disappointing though. Especially if you play lots of games.
But I wonder if there is any noticable difference in daily usage.
 

RR-99

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The single-core score is actually a bit higher for the Exynos.
The GPU performance is disappointing though. Especially if you play lots of games.
But I wonder if there is any noticable difference in daily usage.
I would like to see anyone try blind tests to tell one from the other.
 

RR-99

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Lol i understand that it's not fun to hear that exynos is worse than snapdragon but you payed same price.
Why ever do you think it's not "fun" for me?
I'm really enjoying this phone and like I said I don't care two cents what is it inside it.
If it was two percent or even ten percent faster or slower I would never know.

I'm just a little surprised that someone would not upgrade to the best phone on the market at the moment because of some trivial differences in a test report that will never be noticed in actual use. But if it gives you "fun" to stay behind and miss all the new features in the Note 10+ then I'm pleased for you. It means we are both happy. :highfive:
 
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I'm not a heavy game player. So the difference between 2 processor is not really matter to me.

If you want a phone that really powerful in gaming, should get the asus new phone then.

Note 10+ is always the phone for people who use s pen and multitasking.

I like the dex mode where it turn any screen into pc.

Just install the software into pc. Then the phone become a mini laptop, connect with the pc and continue with the work from the phone. Unplug it once done, no traces left in the pc.
 
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I think/thought it was related to bands used? Some exynos bands dont work in usa and Visa versa with the snapdragon. Plus perhaps Samsung don't have the capacity to make enough exynos chips?

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Exactly this - it is nothing more sinister than band compatibility / regulatory compliance.

If Samsung could, they'd use Exynos in every device as it makes them more profit; but currently for those territories where their chipset either doesn't support the bands used locally or is not passed by the local regulator to use the bands it does support, they "fall back" on a Qualcomm chipset instead.

All this tally about back doors, government interference, wanting to piss off certain regions, is absolute bullsh*t!

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jemfalor

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Exactly this - it is nothing more sinister than band compatibility / regulatory compliance.

If Samsung could, they'd use Exynos in every device as it makes them more profit; but currently for those territories where their chipset either doesn't support the bands used locally or is not passed by the local regulator to use the bands it does support, they "fall back" on a Qualcomm chipset instead.

All this tally about back doors, government interference, wanting to piss off certain regions, is absolute bullsh*t!

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america to be blamed

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