so um.. videos?

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ive tried 3 movies so far. monsters vs aliens, toy story 3, and v for vendetta. all mp4 1080i bluray rips. all i get is choppy and soundless. any suggestions or work arounds?
 

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ive tried 3 movies so far. monsters vs aliens, toy story 3, and v for vendetta. all mp4 1080i bluray rips. all i get is choppy and soundless. any suggestions or work arounds?
Same here with 720p and 1080p MKV. tried several. No sound and choppy. I don't even know what formats work. Video playback needs a lot of work.
 

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you think it'll be a quick kinda thing? i used to have an epic and it tore those mkvs apart with pure awesomeness. i think proper video playback should be necessary for a tablet.
 

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I Read Somwhere that this is Tegra 2 Problem. Somthing about having trouble rendering high profile Videos.
No its software, I was able to play a high quality 720p mkv perfectly on my tablet today; however the audio didn't work. If it can do the video, it can do both. Its a software issue.
 

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This is not a software issue. The tegra 2 cannot handle the bandwidth required for h.264 high profile. This is a known limitation.
 

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you think it'll be a quick kinda thing? i used to have an epic and it tore those mkvs apart with pure awesomeness. i think proper video playback should be necessary for a tablet.
It is absolutely horrible. I doubt a quick fix but hopefully something will be done. I can say if you do not own a Xoom and high quality playback is important to you, do not buy it until something is done. I refuse to convert everything to something that works. Hell, my Samsung Captivate phone can play these same files flawlessly.
 

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I Read Somwhere that this is Tegra 2 Problem. Somthing about having trouble rendering high profile Videos.
That's correct. Same chip as the GTAB, the Adam, the VEGA etc. Sounds like the same issue with high profile videos. GTAB owners have been dealing with this for months, sorry to burst your bubble.

This chipset limitation is allegedly the reason why Boxee dropped the Tegra 2, last year. Use the excellent "mediainfo" to check your h.264 videos - if it's listed as high profile, it will choke (especially at 1080p).
 
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I am considering purchasing the xoom my local BB has plenty in stock, i travel a lot and watch a lot of videos while traveling

i currently have an Archos 101 which by the way plays everything i throw at it flawlessly, so maybe i'll wait and see if the video playback gets better after some roms begin to appear
 

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I am considering purchasing the xoom my local BB has plenty in stock, i travel a lot and watch a lot of videos while traveling

i currently have an Archos 101 which by the way plays everything i throw at it flawlessly, so maybe i'll wait and see if the video playback gets better after some roms begin to appear
I left my comment already post #9 in this thread. I think you will be disappointed but that is me. Good luck.
 

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So you guys are saying that all android tablets will not be able to play hd mkv files? WTF. Android has failed in the tablet market then. My single core epic4g plays them flawlessly. The single core iPad plays them flawlessly with xbmc. You are telling me a dual core CPU and an eight core gpu can't handle a 720p video??????

What use are the tablets then if they cannot play hd video? You don't need a dual core processor for browsing the internet and playing YouTube videos.
 
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So you guys are saying that all android tablets will not be able to play hd mkv files? WTF. Android has failed in the tablet market then. My single core epic4g plays them flawlessly. The single core iPad plays them flawlessly with xbmc. You are telling me a dual core CPU and an eight core gpu can't handle a 720p video??????

What use are the tablets then if they cannot play hd video? You don't need a dual core processor for browsing the internet and playing YouTube videos.
Couldn't agree more my friend. I think this will be corrected at some point but it is frustrating out of the box you can't play a decent HD video while I just saw a new Motorola Xoom commerical on CNN showing one playing flawlessly.
 

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Holy crap, just read the anandtech review of the optimus 2x and it's not giving me a lot of confidence in Tegra 2. They specifically talk about how limited the video playback potential is and how h.264 videos have to be in a ridiculously specific format to play. Basically NVIDIA has been lying and has refuses to respond to its lies.

Edit: Basically, unless you specifically encode a video to fit within the parameters Nvidia needs, the video will not play well. There are very constained the limited parameters that the Tegra 2 seems to support, which may explain certain videos working without sound and others not playing at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/...ra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/14

Its pretty disheartening to be reading threads where people are making fun of baseline profile back in 2008. WTF Nvidia.

Edit2: Just went through a ton of my media and all of it is High Profile at various levels. Ugh. God I hope I am wrong about all of this.
 
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Can't it be the same problem that Samsung Galaxy Tab have? That it's the audio that is the problem. That its handle video good but have no codec for multichannel sound.

My Galaxy Tab can play 720p perfectly only when the movie have stereo sound. If it have 5.1 it cant play. So the file need to have only stereo sound.

Can some whit a XOOM try some HD movie whit stereo sound and also try some movies whit multichannel sound. And report back how it went.

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Holy crap, just read the anandtech review of the optimus 2x and it's not giving me a lot of confidence in Tegra 2. They specifically talk about how limited the video playback potential is and how h.264 videos have to be in a ridiculously specific format to play. Basically NVIDIA has been lying and has refuses to respond to its lies.

Edit: Basically, unless you specifically encode a video to fit within the parameters Nvidia needs, the video will not play well. There are very constained the limited parameters that the Tegra 2 seems to support, which may explain certain videos working without sound and others not playing at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/...ra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/14

Its pretty disheartening to be reading threads where people are making fun of baseline profile back in 2008. WTF Nvidia.

Edit2: Just went through a ton of my media and all of it is High Profile at various levels. Ugh. God I hope I am wrong about all of this.
You aren't wrong unfortunately.

Here is a good portion of an article talking about it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4181/...-a9s-coming-to-smartphonestablets-this-year/3
 

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Can't it be the same problem that Samsung Galaxy Tab have? That it's the audio that is the problem. That its handle video good but have no codec for multichannel sound.

My Galaxy Tab can play 720p perfectly only when the movie have stereo sound. If it have 5.1 it cant play. So the file need to have only stereo sound.

Can some whit a XOOM try some HD movie whit stereo sound and also try some movies whit multichannel sound. And report back how it went.

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Not true, the Galaxy tab plays 720p mkv with 5.1 fine, as long as it is encoded as AC3, which the majority of files are. You probably have files that are DTS encoded. That is the Galaxy tab's only limitation. And even that can be converted (audio track only in about 15 minutes) if necessary to play on the tab. I watch movies and TV shows as 720p mkv every single day on the tab. I am amazed that the XOOM can't do this. I was so close to buying one - looks like I dodged a bullet, can't stand the thought of going back to encoding everything after using a galaxy tab and a captivate, which play everything. Here are the properties of a file which plays fine on the Galaxy tab for comparison. Notice way down in the Audio section - Channel(s) : 6 channels



Format : Matroska
File size : 1.09 GiB
Duration : 42mn 0s
Overall bit rate : 3 727 Kbps
Writing application : x264.exe
Writing library : mkv2rls x264-tv version built on 2011. febr. 17

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 42mn 0s
Bit rate : 3 336 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.151
Stream size : 982 MiB (88%)
Writing library : x264 core 88 r1471 1144615
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=30 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=0 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3336 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 42mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 115 MiB (10%)
Title : English
Language : English

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : English
Language : English
 

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Its really, really, REALLY stupid for Motorola to put out a tablet that cant play video, while 1-2 year old tablets and phones do it just fine!

I was going to go down to the US to buy one this weekend but I will not now.