[SOLVED] Kaiser: Ringtone delay

licht77

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Update: Solved!

Try your simcard in another (non-pda, non smartphone) cellphone.
If there is still the same delay, then its a providerproblem and you should contact your service hotline. In my case, this was the solution!

If the delay only occurs on your WM5 / WM6 device:
Then THIS here is the solution for you:

check this registry key: HKCU\\Control Panel\Sounds\RingTone0\script
simply change existing "3"'s to zeros... this string defines what the phone should do when a call comes in (a=begin script, r=repeat script, p=play ringtone, v=vibrate, w=pause, f=flash, c=volume)

in most cases, this should have been the solution for you.
if there exit still any delay problems:

try a wma standard ringtone which is stored in the phones main memory (NOT storage card). If this is the solution, then transform your desired ringtone into this format and move it into mainmemory.

(Addtionally you should be sure that there is no silence at the beginning of the ringtone itself... of course *g*)

I hope this helpful, good luck
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(Original Post)

Hi!

It looks like an old problem is back: the famous 3-4sec. delay of ringtones on incoming calls: The caller hears 3 to 4 "rings" while the kaiser which receives the call stays sleeping/silent and starts ringing with a delay (as mentioned 3-4 "rings").

Device Info:
HardSPL, Super CID, unlocked
Radiorom R 1.27.12.11
Protokollversion: G 22.45.88.01H
D 1.56.00.00
ROM Version: 1.56.112.4 (09/01/07) (german/Austrian T-Mobile )

Anyone got a solution so far?

I tried tweaks2k2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109&highlight=ring+delay and playing around with different ringtone files as well - but no improvement.

Any hints are highly appreciated.

PS: Beside this one, Kaiser is really rocking!
 
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NoFatePPC

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I think its pretty normal

Its not a GSM , kaiser must launch an application to start ringing, that just takes time, the more tools you install, the slower the application starts.

Try not to install to many programs in memory background, tweak your htc....
 

licht77

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Of course you are right with the fact that Kaiser is no GSM and needs an app for that - but I am pretty sure that this is not the real problem: On Hermes we had the same problem which could be solved (see Schaps ROM) with the same apps / ringtones installed.
 

sherpa

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Hi!

It looks like an old problem is back: the famous 3-4sec. delay of ringtones on incoming calls: The caller hears 3 to 4 "rings" while the kaiser which receives the call stays sleeping/silent and starts ringing with a delay (as mentioned 3-4 "rings").

Device Info:
HardSPL, Super CID, unlocked
Radiorom R 1.27.12.11
Protokollversion: G 22.45.88.01H
D 1.56.00.00
ROM Version: 1.56.112.4 (09/01/07) (german/Austrian T-Mobile )

Anyone got a solution so far?

I tried tweaks2k2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109&highlight=ring+delay and playing around with different ringtone files as well - but no improvement.

Any hints are highly appreciated.

PS: Beside this one, Kaiser is really rocking!

I have been using HelmiC's Clean/BigStorage version and I have had no problems with the ringtones. I have even tested it multiple times and it starts ringing at the very first ring. Do you have your ringtones on the phone or the storage card? If latter, try placing the ringtons on the phone (\My Documents\).
 

licht77

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Hi! Thanks for your idea, und yes my ringtones are of course in the main memory for performance issues. As well I tried different formats (wav e.g.) with no improvement.
 

licht77

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Any other statements to my problem? Are there other Kaiser ROMs which have the same problem or am i the only lucky one? :)

For your information: I tried tweaking the registry:

HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0

Originally, my Kaiser had av0pw3r as Scriptvalue... I tried apr and av0pr but no improvement...

Any suggestions / comments?

(PS: Yes: tried different ringtone formats, ringtones are NOT on the storage card)
 

roboHaxx

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I had the same problem on the 8525 using MP3 files as ringtones. I converted my ringtone to a WAV file and the delay was much less. On my 8925, I'm using the same WAV ringtone file (in main memory) and my delay is usually just one ring on the callers end.
 

mgartner

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Machine: Original HTC TyTN2
ROM: 1.56.407.3, german
RADIO: 1.27.12.11
Provider: T-Mobile Austria
Ringtone: I'm using the standard ringtone from rom.

On my machine there is a delay of 1 ring until the Kaiser turns on and with the 2nd ring the Kaiser plays its ringtone. So I think this is fully normal.
 

unwired4

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I think you are all on the wrong track re ringtones...

The OP's actualy problem is that his device takes too long to actually wake on receiving a call.

I would bet $10 that it will be down to an application installed on the device that is screwing with its phone app responsiveness.
 

Vanstra

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Is the ringtone present in main memory or on the sdcard ?
Maybe moving the ringtone to the main memory solves a bit of the problem.
On my TytnII the problem doesn't occur but the ringtone is placed in the main memory.
 

unwired4

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Simple to prove whether it is a ringtone. Just change the ring to one of the built in ones. If the device still delays waking on incoming calls, then you know its something else...
 

licht77

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As mentioned in the opening post, the ringtone is on main memory and i tried standard tones too.

So what about your delays? Do you have one or not on your ROMs?
 

greg3d

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Is there an SCI (Slot Cycle Index) equivalent on 3G systems? On my Apache through Verizon (CDMA), lowering the SCI (how often your phone polls the tower for incoming calls) fixed this issue. So if there is an equivalent here, we should look into that.

Does anyone know how to get to the Kaiser's provisioning screen so I can check this out?
 
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jcespi2005

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Checked

I have just checked the delay on call arrives, and only 1 second.

I have optimized WMA (whichever little, better) file on \windows\rings

I my hermes i have more delay that in my Kaiser. And the cause in my hermes was related to the time the Hermes took to switch on. This time is lower in the Kaiser. When you press the On button, the Kaiser switch on quickly. See this posts on hermes section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1440403&postcount=266 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1461092&postcount=406 for refference.
If you have notifications on wake-up, this can cause delay on the switch on when a call arrives, so take care of this too.

So no significant delay for me.
 

licht77

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Hmm... "Slot Cycle Index" is a nice hint - i will have a closer look to this.

For the other ideas: Of course i am using an optimized WMA ringtone - stored in main memory - too.

In fact i encounter this delay of 3 rings even when my phone is switched already on... - and i guess thats not normal.

I got a bunch of applications installed - but the same like on my Hermes where I didnt had these delays. So if there are no other ideas i will try to hardreset and figure out if the problems occur with a plain german ROM too.

If not, then i will install application by application and give feedback which one did the delay.
 

benchMarc

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I didn't check it with calls yet. But with SMS i noticed that my screen goes on, and then after 2secs the sms-tone goes off. So there's definately a delay.