[STICKY] [FAQ] Official Atrix "Ask A Dev" & FAQ Thread (Last Update: 05/31/2011)

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bongd

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Yeah, I wish I could be of more help :( If you do find out a way to fix it, be sure to let me know or post here, I'll add it up to the FAQ just in case anyone else makes the same mistake. Hope you get it sorted out!
Thanks for the PM. I'm determined to fix this! There must be a way. Will post back if/when I fix it. Wife will be out of town so I can nerd it up hardcore after work :cool:
 

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Hi there, I'm kind of new to android, however, I'm aware of the dis-advantage of having a locked bootloader, so I Have a few questions: Can we have this kind of "themed" roms like MIUI ? Is it possible to port the dalvik VM from gingerbeard to our phones even if we have the 2.6.32 kernel? thanks
 

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Firmware Auto-Update

Hello,

I just had a quick question. I've done some google searches, as well as done a little poking around on these forums, but can't seem to find this question addressed.

I'm still running 1.26, and wouldn't mind bumping up to 1.57 but the CWM isn't in the most stable of states at the moment, and it appears that all of the MODs are all incorporating this tool.

Is there a way to turn off this auto-update feature for the Atrix 4G?

I'd just like the dang phone to stop prompting me to update. Because sometimes I accidently hit the update button, which takes me to an android, with an exclamated triangle, and it hangs there for hour(s), until it finally asks me to revert the update changes [VERY ANNOYING].

Thanks for the time, and to all DEV's, thank you for EVERYTHING you do!!! It makes owning a smartphone that much more fun to have! :D
 

Ririal

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Hi there, I'm kind of new to android, however, I'm aware of the dis-advantage of having a locked bootloader, so I Have a few questions: Can we have this kind of "themed" roms like MIUI ? Is it possible to port the dalvik VM from gingerbeard to our phones even if we have the 2.6.32 kernel? thanks
Currently, it's /possible/ to have a ROM like Miui run, but it would be in appearance only, if all the components are even compatible. My GladiAtrix rom already uses the 3D Gallery app from Miui in it, so certain components are compatible outside the ROM itself. A full Miui wouldn't be possible until we get an unlocked bootloader.

Hello,

I just had a quick question. I've done some google searches, as well as done a little poking around on these forums, but can't seem to find this question addressed.

I'm still running 1.26, and wouldn't mind bumping up to 1.57 but the CWM isn't in the most stable of states at the moment, and it appears that all of the MODs are all incorporating this tool.

Is there a way to turn off this auto-update feature for the Atrix 4G?

I'd just like the dang phone to stop prompting me to update. Because sometimes I accidently hit the update button, which takes me to an android, with an exclamated triangle, and it hangs there for hour(s), until it finally asks me to revert the update changes [VERY ANNOYING].

Thanks for the time, and to all DEV's, thank you for EVERYTHING you do!!! It makes owning a smartphone that much more fun to have! :D
If you freeze the FOTA app using Titanium Backup or another freeze app (There's a few in the market, I forget their names.), it should prevent the update from downloading automatically. Even if it does, the update will NOT install unless you accept the installation prompt.
 

YaPeL

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Currently, it's /possible/ to have a ROM like Miui run, but it would be in appearance only, if all the components are even compatible. My GladiAtrix rom already uses the 3D Gallery app from Miui in it, so certain components are compatible outside the ROM itself. A full Miui wouldn't be possible until we get an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks, and what about the gingerbread dalvik port? is it possible?
 

Ririal

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looks like there's not much to do on this device... really turns me off from buying it
Says who? There's plenty you can do with it. My GladiAtrix rom is constantly being updated with new features. Show me another phone that hooks up through an HDMI cable to become a full linux box, eh? ;) With root access you can customize it pretty heavily. The point where we run into issues is custom kernels which on this device, in my opinion, aren't really needed. Most custom kernels have the goal of speed in mind, and the Atrix is already crazy fast. The only limitations we're seeing is just from lack of developer involvement. Everyone is avoiding the Atrix because of some useless stigma surrounding it. Talk to anyone here who has one, we all love it to death. What REAL benefit or features would you get from running Miui or CWM or even just Gingerbread that you can't already do? It's all relative to what you're looking for. If you're a heavy power user who wants to modify the kernel yourself, yeah, maybe the Atrix isn't for you right now. But other than that? Sky's the limit.
 

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A new update should be coming this month to enable hsupa.

1. Would we need to flash back to 1.26 again before we can update to that newest one just like how we are doing it with 1.57?

2. Or would it be possible to just flash the new one on top OTA-style?

3. Or if someone does a deodex version, can we just flash that through recovery and be done with it?

All of this is to retain root of course. It might not be possible for you to answer now, but do let us know your thoughts. Thanks!
 

Ririal

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A new update should be coming this month to enable hsupa.

1. Would we need to flash back to 1.26 again before we can update to that newest one just like how we are doing it with 1.57?

2. Or would it be possible to just flash the new one on top OTA-style?

3. Or if someone does a deodex version, can we just flash that through recovery and be done with it?

All of this is to retain root of course. It might not be possible for you to answer now, but do let us know your thoughts. Thanks!
The answer to all 3 is unfortunately: "I'm not sure yet."

We'll have to wait for the update to be released and then play around with it to see if the same methods of keeping root are working or not.
 

YaPeL

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Okey, one last question, Why the mods made for the at&t model don't work on the bell model? and how hard is to make them work there?
 

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I think the biggest problem with the fact that nothing works on bell is there is no stock firmware recovery for it. Designgears before he left gave us a nice little cookie of a full sbf flash of the stock att rom, so if we break something we can go back to it with minimal problems.
 

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Okey, one last question, Why the mods made for the at&t model don't work on the bell model? and how hard is to make them work there?
It's not really /hard/ it's just that it requires a bit of testing and troubleshooting to get things to work, and if we end up with a bricked phone, there's no way to recover it. If we can get a proper CWM with ADB support that doesn't need to be invoked from the phone booted, then we can make our own recovery points and start modding on Bell phones.

I think the biggest problem with the fact that nothing works on bell is there is no stock firmware recovery for it. Designgears before he left gave us a nice little cookie of a full sbf flash of the stock att rom, so if we break something we can go back to it with minimal problems.
It should be noted that you CAN NOT flash an AT&T SBF to a Bell phone. It won't work.

Phones I returned because they suck:
Motorola Atrix 4G

well thats funny

Edit: okey, I really like the phone, I'm going to see what version do they bring here, thanks a lot for the answers
Please keep that kind of crap out of my thread :)
 

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Originally Posted by YaPeL View Post

Okey, one last question, Why the mods made for the at&t model don't work on the bell model? and how hard is to make them work there?

It's not really /hard/ it's just that it requires a bit of testing and troubleshooting to get things to work, and if we end up with a bricked phone, there's no way to recover it. If we can get a proper CWM with ADB support that doesn't need to be invoked from the phone booted, then we can make our own recovery points and start modding on Bell phones.
follow up question to the above...

since we don't have a Bell firmware SBF available right now, would it be the same if we backed up the stock rom from a Bell Atrix? I have no idea if this is totally wrong but i want to root my phone, ASAP!. But before i do anything to it, i want to be able to restore it back to the stock state just in case anything happens.

two more questions:
1) as far as i know, doing a factory reset WILL NOT unroot the phone right?

2) I saw there was an unroot.bat before for atrix with the aRoot script method, but this is no longer available in GladRoot v4.1 right?

thank you very much!
 

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follow up question to the above...

since we don't have a Bell firmware SBF available right now, would it be the same if we backed up the stock rom from a Bell Atrix? I have no idea if this is totally wrong but i want to root my phone, ASAP!. But before i do anything to it, i want to be able to restore it back to the stock state just in case anything happens.

two more questions:
1) as far as i know, doing a factory reset WILL NOT unroot the phone right?

2) I saw there was an unroot.bat before for atrix with the aRoot script method, but this is no longer available in GladRoot v4.1 right?

thank you very much!
Rooting your phone should be ok, and I can add an option to unroot if people really need it. It's as simple as deleting superuser.apk and /system/bin/su.
 

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I'm new to Android so maybe I'm missing something but I'm sure that I followed the instruction for Gladroot v4.1 for Bell Atrix. After I run the gladroot and followed the instruction of the cmd promt, it said root completed but I see no difference in my phone, especially that the phone failed the root check. I try to root like that 2 times and still see no difference.

Did I miss something afterward?

Thanks for your hardwork firstly
 

Ririal

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I'm new to Android so maybe I'm missing something but I'm sure that I followed the instruction for Gladroot v4.1 for Bell Atrix. After I run the gladroot and followed the instruction of the cmd promt, it said root completed but I see no difference in my phone, especially that the phone failed the root check. I try to root like that 2 times and still see no difference.

Did I miss something afterward?

Thanks for your hardwork firstly
This should be in the gladroot thread, but rooting doesn't change how your phone looks. Not sure what you were expecting?
 
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