[STICKY] MX Player 10-bit Video and HEVC Discussion

[PORCODIOO]

I am still stuck on android 8 on my M30, No upgrades, But it seems to have all the codecs, I supposed your M40 is on Android 10.
As i have said nothing really uses H.264 10-bit any more and what does can be found in H.265 format, So i would not worry about H.264 10-bit compatibility.

Android 10 the M40 and Android 11 the Plus/Pro.

But it's not android. It is the "SPRD" codecs (which are the HW codecs for the tablet in question) that have been poorly and partially implemented despite the well-equipped GPU.
In Software it plays smoothly (except for stuff with over 10mb / s bitrate and 24bit FLAC).

The problem is that in my region they still use too much x264 10bit (they have the worm that they think is better x264 than x265 and they don't want to release in x265. I convert everything I can to x265 but I can't do miracles).
Anyway, nothing. Thanks anyway

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

Newbie here, can a Snapdragon 860 hardware decode x265/hevc 10bit?

Yes Snapdragon 860 can hardware decode h.265 10-bit.

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

How about a Snapdragon 732g and a Snapdragon 678, can they both hardware decode hevc/x265 10bit?

Yes, According to the specs below.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 732G - Benchmark, Test and specs

Benchmark results and review of this CPU in Cinebench R23, Geekbench 5 and many other benchmarks

www.cpu-monkey.com

 

[Hyper_Z]

i am new here. i have some questions, can someone help me please
i have xiaomi mi 11 lite which has a 10bit display and snapdragon 732g
1. i am playing jujutsu kaisen hevc/h.265 10bit. this video plays very smoothly in my phone. in mx player when i deselect every hw+ video codec and play the video in hw+, for some reason it still plays the video smoothly. how? (screen shot 1 and 2).
i don't know if the video is playing in 8bit or 10bit. also selecting hw when watching it gives a error 'hw decoder is not supported' (screen shot 3). if i only deselect h.265 10bits in hw+ video codecs and select hw when watching then it also give the same error. why? isn't h.265 10bits only for hw+ ?

2. does hw supports h.265 10bit ? what is the difference between hw and hw+ in mx player?

3. how i will know if the video is playing on 8bit or 10bit ?

4. in cpu monkey website it says that 732g supports h.264 decode but they didn't mention 10bit or 8bit with it. also in mx player when selecting h.264 10bits in hw+ video codecs, it gives a warning 'h.264 10bits is not explicitly supported by your device'. but i have another jujutsu kaisen file h.264 10bit and bit rate 35.4 Mb/s which i can play very smoothly in both hw+ and hw. how? is it playing in 8bit?

5. is there any real and fake 10bit anime videos. if yes then how can i identify them with mediainfo app?

6. can gallery app display 10bit image?

7. is there any way to take 10bit screen shot in android phones?

8. i have 10bit display so is everything the phone is displaying in 10bit or it is displaying 10bit things in 8bit or the thing it is displaying need to be in 10bit to display it in 10bit?

 

[Hyper_Z]

someone please reply

 

[amn1987]

someone please reply

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-732g-mobile-platform 10-bit capture i.e. encode is mentioned several times. So 10-bit decode is pretty much a given. H.264 10-bit decode support is quite rare. 10-bit videos are never converted to 8-bit during playback AFAIK.

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

Well

someone please reply

Well you seem to be playing 10-bit 265 in HW+ so it supports it, The HW error happens now and then but HW+ works so great.

In HW+ allows you to play files that will not play in HW using some software tricks it also it boosts the sound volume from 15 to 30

MX Player has an file info that will show if the files is 256 8-bit or 10-bit

Just try playing some 10-bit colour video files and see what happens, I think you can create your own small test clips using the free handbrake app, I made 8, 10 and 12 bit ones, Though you should just be able to download some.

Try playing an 10-bit 264 video, Make sure it enabled in decoder in mx player settings, You might get an error and it will not allow you to enable it, Sometimes it will enable but you will get corruption during HW+ video playback, You can playback the files using software if HW+ will not work though it might use more battery also software can make the image softer less blocky than HW decoding.

If you have an windows computer you can download apps/video players that will show the video properties like if the files is 8 or 10 bit 265 or the colour depth, I use the free MPC video player on my PC.

I am not affiliated with MX Player in any way, I have just been using it since android 4 and have used it on over a 100 tv boxes, tablets and phones but it`s just obsovational not technical.

 

[Hyper_Z]

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-732g-mobile-platform 10-bit capture i.e. encode is mentioned several times. So 10-bit decode is pretty much a given. H.264 10-bit decode support is quite rare. 10-bit videos are never converted to 8-bit during playback AFAIK.

thanx for your reply

 

[Hyper_Z]

Well

Well you seem to be playing 10-bit 265 in HW+ so it supports it, The HW error happens now and then but HW+ works so great.

In HW+ allows you to play files that will not play in HW using some software tricks it also it boosts the sound volume from 15 to 30

MX Player has an file info that will show if the files is 256 8-bit or 10-bit

Just try playing some 10-bit colour video files and see what happens, I think you can create your own small test clips using the free handbrake app, I made 8, 10 and 12 bit ones, Though you should just be able to download some.

Try playing an 10-bit 264 video, Make sure it enabled in decoder in mx player settings, You might get an error and it will not allow you to enable it, Sometimes it will enable but you will get corruption during HW+ video playback, You can playback the files using software if HW+ will not work though it might use more battery also software can make the image softer less blocky than HW decoding.

If you have an windows computer you can download apps/video players that will show the video properties like if the files is 8 or 10 bit 265 or the colour depth, I use the free MPC video player on my PC.

I am not affiliated with MX Player in any way, I have just been using it since android 4 and have used it on over a 100 tv boxes, tablets and phones but it`s just obsovational not technical.

really thanks for informing. by the way i said that when i deselect h.265 10bits on hw+ video codecs from mx player codec setting and select hw when playing the 10bit file then it gives error that hw decoder is not supported. but when i select h.265 10bits codecs from hw+ video codecs from mx player setting and select hw when watching the 10bit video then it doesn't give any error and the video plays very smoothly. my question is why there is a connection with hw and hw+ settings? i am changing the hw+ codec settings not hw setting then why it gives error when watching video in hw?
watch the video for better understanding

 

[Hyper_Z]

Well

Well you seem to be playing 10-bit 265 in HW+ so it supports it, The HW error happens now and then but HW+ works so great.

In HW+ allows you to play files that will not play in HW using some software tricks it also it boosts the sound volume from 15 to 30

MX Player has an file info that will show if the files is 256 8-bit or 10-bit

Just try playing some 10-bit colour video files and see what happens, I think you can create your own small test clips using the free handbrake app, I made 8, 10 and 12 bit ones, Though you should just be able to download some.

Try playing an 10-bit 264 video, Make sure it enabled in decoder in mx player settings, You might get an error and it will not allow you to enable it, Sometimes it will enable but you will get corruption during HW+ video playback, You can playback the files using software if HW+ will not work though it might use more battery also software can make the image softer less blocky than HW decoding.

If you have an windows computer you can download apps/video players that will show the video properties like if the files is 8 or 10 bit 265 or the colour depth, I use the free MPC video player on my PC.

I am not affiliated with MX Player in any way, I have just been using it since android 4 and have used it on over a 100 tv boxes, tablets and phones but it`s just obsovational not technical.

i have a app named mediainfo where i can see media properties.

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

i have a app named mediainfo where i can see media properties.

I have used that before, But MPC Video Player is my favioute and it shows the info i need as well in one app.

 

[Hyper_Z]

Well

Well you seem to be playing 10-bit 265 in HW+ so it supports it, The HW error happens now and then but HW+ works so great.

In HW+ allows you to play files that will not play in HW using some software tricks it also it boosts the sound volume from 15 to 30

MX Player has an file info that will show if the files is 256 8-bit or 10-bit

Just try playing some 10-bit colour video files and see what happens, I think you can create your own small test clips using the free handbrake app, I made 8, 10 and 12 bit ones, Though you should just be able to download some.

Try playing an 10-bit 264 video, Make sure it enabled in decoder in mx player settings, You might get an error and it will not allow you to enable it, Sometimes it will enable but you will get corruption during HW+ video playback, You can playback the files using software if HW+ will not work though it might use more battery also software can make the image softer less blocky than HW decoding.

If you have an windows computer you can download apps/video players that will show the video properties like if the files is 8 or 10 bit 265 or the colour depth, I use the free MPC video player on my PC.

I am not affiliated with MX Player in any way, I have just been using it since android 4 and have used it on over a 100 tv boxes, tablets and phones but it`s just obsovational not technical.

snapdragon 732g supports 10bit. so, which will be better in your opinion hw or hw+ ?

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

really thanks for informing. by the way i said that when i deselect h.265 10bits on hw+ video codecs from mx player codec setting and select hw when playing the 10bit file then it gives error that hw decoder is not supported. but when i select h.265 10bits codecs from hw+ video codecs from mx player setting and select hw when watching the 10bit video then it doesn't give any error and the video plays very smoothly. my question is why there is a connection with hw and hw+ settings? i am changing the hw+ codec settings not hw setting then why it gives error when watching video in hw?
watch the video for better understanding
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No idea why the error, but why play in HW at all when HW+ works and gives you boosted sound, also i think the equlizer only works on HW+ mode.

 

[Hyper_Z]

No idea why the error, but why play in HW at all when HW+ works and gives you boosted sound, also i think the equlizer only works on HW+ mode.

except sound boost which will be better in video quality hw or hw+?

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

except sound boost which will be better in video quality hw or hw+?

Looks the same to me, Though i rarely use HW mode when HW+ is working.

Software gives a smoother/softer looking video than HW and HW+ that can sometimes look more blocky, So with low resolution video`s give software a try.

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

You need to check your new phone/tablet codec compatibility before you buy, All my phones and tablet`s play 8 and 10 bit 265/HEVC and 10-bit 264.

The most important is 8-bit 265/HEVC, But a number of movies are now 10-bit 256/HEVC.

Virtaully nothing but old Anime uses 10-bit 264 and you can download virtually everything in 265/HEVC for smaller files size, though i prefer 8-bit over 10-bit as my pc playback software will not adjust the colour of 10-bit video`s and they can look a bit washed out.

 

[Hyper_Z]

Looks the same to me, Though i rarely use HW mode when HW+ is working.

Software gives a smoother/softer looking video than HW and HW+ that can sometimes look more blocky, So with low resolution video`s give software a try.

sw looks like reduces the bit rate so much. the video quality looks worse and also color banding is much more noticable but thanks for your advice

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

sw looks like reduces the bit rate so much. the video quality looks worse and also color banding is much more noticable but thanks for your advice

Yeah, The banding can be really bad in Anime at times it show a lot in dark scenes, Also vertical panning judder, like looking up a building can be jerky as hell, As far as i know this is just the way it was encoded, I am just a consumer not a producer so i am happy with what ever i can get.

 

[MidoPL]

All my phones and tablet`s play [...] 10-bit 264.

You don't own Snapdragon device, do you?

 

[Tinderbox (UK)]

You don't own Snapdragon device, do you?

All mine have Mediatek SOC`s on my Phones and Tablets as they have good enough performance for an non-gamer and they "normally" support H.265, 8 and 10bit and H.264, 8 and 10bit.