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PORCODIOO

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My M30 "MediaTek MT6797X" supports h.254 10-bit, But MX Player Pro shows it as unsupported in "HW+ video codecs" in settings, I just tick the box and it plays it flawlessly in HW+, If it`s not supported it will either refuse to play in HW+ or the playback will be corrupted.

I am a long time massive Anime fan myself and remember when half the series released were in h.264 10-bit, But as i find H.265 versions i have been removing them also the files are 1/2 to 2/3 smaller, There is very little that has not been converted to H.265.

As i have said to other people, there are 3 parts to a video playing back in HW+ mode, The SOC must support the format, Then the OS/android must have the correct codec and finally the Video player must be able to playback the video without corruption.
Yes, but the fact is:
) GPU: ✔
) Android Codec: ✔ (or so it seems from the app screens)
) Video player: ✔ (tested: MXPlayer, VLC, MPV, OPlayer and Emby's ExoPlayer)

Despite this it does not go into HEVC 10 nor x264 10.
For x264 10 there are no codecs for android..ok.
Instead the codecs are preset for the HEVC 10.
Obviously I have already tried HW+ with forced checks. It doesn't even try to play them, says "unsupported" and goes back to SW.

Nothing, come on, unless someone does a custom rom for the tablet in question that adds support for these codecs, the base M40 does not support HEVC 10 and x264 10 even with codecs (probably poorly written).
Thanks anyway.
 

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Yes, but the fact is:
) GPU: ✔
) Android Codec: ✔ (or so it seems from the app screens)
) Video player: ✔ (tested: MXPlayer, VLC, MPV, OPlayer and Emby's ExoPlayer)

Despite this it does not go into HEVC 10 nor x264 10.
For x264 10 there are no codecs for android..ok.
Instead the codecs are preset for the HEVC 10.
Obviously I have already tried HW+ with forced checks. It doesn't even try to play them, says "unsupported" and goes back to SW.

Nothing, come on, unless someone does a custom rom for the tablet in question that adds support for these codecs, the base M40 does not support HEVC 10 and x264 10 even with codecs (probably poorly written).
Thanks anyway.
I am still stuck on android 8 on my M30, No upgrades, But it seems to have all the codecs, I supposed your M40 is on Android 10.
As i have said nothing really uses H.264 10-bit any more and what does can be found in H.265 format, So i would not worry about H.264 10-bit compatibility.
 

PORCODIOO

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I am still stuck on android 8 on my M30, No upgrades, But it seems to have all the codecs, I supposed your M40 is on Android 10.
As i have said nothing really uses H.264 10-bit any more and what does can be found in H.265 format, So i would not worry about H.264 10-bit compatibility.
Android 10 the M40 and Android 11 the Plus/Pro.

But it's not android. It is the "SPRD" codecs (which are the HW codecs for the tablet in question) that have been poorly and partially implemented despite the well-equipped GPU.
In Software it plays smoothly (except for stuff with over 10mb / s bitrate and 24bit FLAC).

The problem is that in my region they still use too much x264 10bit (they have the worm that they think is better x264 than x265 and they don't want to release in x265. I convert everything I can to x265 but I can't do miracles).
Anyway, nothing. Thanks anyway
 

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    MX Player 10-bit Video and HEVC Discussion
    Back on our old Google Groups forum, we had a long thread of users sharing and discussing their experiences with 10-bit video playback, HEVC playback, device capabilities, and other interesting related topics.

    This thread will be a continuation of that discussion. The original thread can be found here:
    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mx-videoplayer/CVvvmsXpdz8/discussion

    If you have anything you want to share relating to 10-bit playback, hardware support, and MX Player, please join the discussion!

    How can I check what hardware codecs are enabled on my phone's GPU?
    You can use an App such as Hardware Info: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.hardwareinfo

    My device is playing Hi10p really poorly, even though it's a very new/powerful phone! What can I do?
    CDB-Man said:
    1) h.264 AVC Hi10p can only be played on HW+ for Tegra devices. No exceptions. All non-Tegra devices must use SW for h.264 AVC Hi10p.

    2) When using SW Mode:
    --> a) Settings -> Decoder -> CPU core limit -> Set to max of whatever your device is
    --> b) Settings -> Decoder -> Use speedup tricks

    LIST OF DEMANDING Hi10p FILES THAT YOU CAN USE TO TEST YOUR DEVICE (mainly anime as that's what most commonly uses Hi10p)
    1. http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=489663&showfiles=1 This file is fairly demanding at 22.3Mbps bitrate.
    2. Anything from http://coalgirls.wakku.to/ that's 1080p and released in 2013 or later would be 10bit, and would make for a good test. All their files are relatively high bitrate, so it will be a good indicator of the CPU's capabilities with S/W.
    3. If you are willing to waste bandwidth with an even harder test, you could try this: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=552753 12GB and 10835 kbit/s bitrate.
    4. Unique encoding settings: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=557914&showfiles=1 movies 1 or 2. This is also 10bit (720p), but with 4:4:4 subsampling (on movies 1 and 2) as opposed to standard 4:2:0 subsampling.
    5. Very, VERY demanding: HEVC 4K 10bit video @ 51.6 Mb/s: http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=96
    6. Various reference files from libde (including Big Buck Bunny): http://www.libde265.org/downloads-videos/

    CDB-Man

    Now, a very useful summary by @Dante of the Inferno of the current required specs to successfully play 10-bit files on Android!
    Last updated: 2015-08-24
    Hi10p Minimum Hardware Requirements:

    x86 Architecture:
    720p:
    • 2.0+ GHz Dual Core CPU with integrated graphics (2006 or later)
    • 2.2+ GHz Single Core CPU (up to 30 fps and low bit rate)
    1080p:

    • Intel Atom Z3770 (Bay Trail) with integrated graphics (2014 or later)

    ARM Architecture:
    720p:
    • Snapdragon 600 SoC (2013 or later) - based on quad-core 1.9 GHz Krait 300 CPU and Adreno 320 GPU
    1080p:
    • Exynos 7 Octa 7420 (2015 or later) - based on ARM v8
    • Amlogic S812 - based on ARM A9 with octo-core Mali 450 GPU
    • Nvidia Tegra K1
    • Snapdragon 810 (generally should work, but probably only for lower bitrate files)
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    First of all thanks for the great player which is so far the best long running player on Android and yet no other player comes as close as this in regards to compatibility, reliability and functionality. I think it has been more than 2 years using MX Player on X10 Mini Pro, HTC One X, S4 i9505 and now Note 3 N9005

    I would like to know about this HW+ incompatibilty issues on Snapdragon hardware. I had been using MX Player on HTC One X (that has Tegra 3 hardware) for a year and it mostly used to decode all my matroska video files on HW+ it used to play all 720p Hi10p files smooth. But since my switch to S4 i9505 I feel like I have downgraded on hardware lol it just don't play any file on HW+ (well all the mkv files I tried so far), it only plays on SW and well... it is not as smooth. And now I'm on Note 3 N9005 and the issue is same. One of my friend told me that the Snapdragon hardware doesn't support HW+... is that true?

    Also, just to let you know that although surely MX Player is the only player on android that can render most SSA/ASS perfectly, it seems at some places to be lagging behind and I noticed that the subtitles and signs tend to "fade out" although originally they aren't programmed to be...

    EDIT: I can confirm that Hi10p 720p matroska video file (with embedded subtitles) on my Note3 N9005 is not playing smooth (and only plays in S/W mode) when I played the same file on pc for comparison, it seems to be dropping/skipping frames to keep in sync... I miss my HTC One X now...

    Other than that I have no complaints at all... MX Player is the best!
    1) Hi10p can only be played on HW+ for Tegra devices. No exceptions. All non-Tegra devices must use SW for Hi10p.
    EDIT: I'd like to note that HW+ Tegra support is a "hack" of sorts, so it probably won't be perfect. SW will likely give you a better picture, but HW+ Tegra will use less power while failing to render properly sometimes.

    2) When using SW Mode:
    --> a) Settings -> Decoder -> CPU core limit -> Set to max of whatever your device is
    --> b) When playing video: Menu -> Play -> Use speedup tricks

    The Note 3 has more than enough power to play 720p Hi10p. I've tested on all the recent high-end devices, and definitely no problems.
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    I am having a very similar issue on my Nexus 9 running CyanogenMod ZNH5YAO0J1 and MX Player 1.8.9:
    - the file is a 10 bit 1080p HEVC, 1:40:58 long and 2 GB large which puts it at around 2850 kbit/s if my math is right.
    - HW and HW+ both say unsupported
    - alternative HW+ opens the video but only shows black screen. Audio plays normally
    - SW is borderline watchable with speedup and 4 cores but gets laggy in some scenes.
    Can such video work on Nexus 9 with sufficient speed at all? Or is the device just too underpowered?

    Wysłane z mojego XT1580 przy użyciu Tapatalka
    I don't think our Nexus 9 has support for x265 10bit / just x265 yes
    x264 10bit yes!
    x265 10bit no!
    x265 maybe I think it worked for me once on CM.

    PS. The Nexus 9 only has 2 cores :good:
    x265 is laggy on almost every device that uses SW
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    Just wanted to add to the pool of knowledge here.

    10bit 720p seems to be working perfectly so far on my Note 3. I only tested a couple of videos, but I have yet to see any lag, even during panning scenes. The videos tested were: Jojo Stardust Crusaders (some episodes, by Horriblesubs), Soul Eater Not (some episodes, also by Horriblesubs) and Nisekoi (one episode, by FFF). It is not overclocked, and I am running the X-Note rom. I disable multitasking and kill all processes just to be safe before playback (unsure if this is even needed). It is playing in H/W+.

    I tried some 1080p 10bit videos and it was awful. I have no idea how the guy with the S5 managed to watch it. The Note 3 has the same hardware, so maybe the videos he tried were of a lower bitrate...? I don't know.
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    For those with HTC M8, if you enable developer options and check high performance mode then you can playback Hi10p 1080p videos smoothly in SW mode in MX player. Just don't forget to turn it off afterwards as it sucks the battery life right out of the phone!

    The S801 is powerful enough to play Hi10p 1080p in SW mode. I'm using an Asian model of the HTC M8 that clocks the S801 at 2.5GHz, European ans US models of the HTC M8 run the S801 at 2.3GHz but it should still be fast enough for Hi10p 1080p.