Substratum themes won't survive reboot after Oreo update

[TheStillMan]

Hi, so I updated my Note8 to Oreo today, installed Andromeda, followed the instructions for Swift Black, and I get them to install, but if I reboot the phone, the theme does not stick. I then have to go in, remove the themes, reboot, and do it again.
Am I missing something or doing something wrong?

 

[shadow_hunter104]

And the theme doesn't apply right. Same issue for me.

 

[Limeybastard]

I made a mistake updating to Oreo, preferred Substratum more when I was on Nougat.

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[Lancerz]

Yes it was much better on nougat. It seems we have to be connected to a PC every time to start it on Oreo.

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[Limeybastard]

Yes it was much better on nougat. It seems we have to be connected to a PC every time to start it on Oreo.

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I'll just reminisce, top two Substratum themes for me were Wings and also Swift for Samsung.

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[Y0sHii]

I've been on Oreo for a while and unfortunately this is an issue that's been persisting for months. I gave up on
Substratum because as said before you will absolutely need to enable Andromeda EVERY time you reboot your phone and need to run Substratum. That's if the overlays even stuck in the first place. I've been using ThemeGalaxy and IMO its better than Substratum. The changes stick and you can make them custom to how you want it and the theme is applied fro,m the Theme store on the device so it doesn't matter how many times you reboot. Give it a try, i hope it helps i know just how frustrating using Substratum can be.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-themediy-samsung-galaxy-s8-s7-s6-j-t3685010

 

[TheStillMan]

And the theme doesn't apply right. Same issue for me.

Well it does apply and work well, until I reboot the phone. If I understand correctly, you have to activate Andromeda every time you reboot, but Substratum will not reapply the theme after that and I have to remove the theme, reboot, apply the theme, reboot, enable the theme. PITA is you ask me.

I've been on Oreo for a while and unfortunately this is an issue that's been persisting for months. I gave up on
Substratum because as said before you will absolutely need to enable Andromeda EVERY time you reboot your phone and need to run Substratum. That's if the overlays even stuck in the first place. I've been using ThemeGalaxy and IMO its better than Substratum. The changes stick and you can make them custom to how you want it and the theme is applied fro,m the Theme store on the device so it doesn't matter how many times you reboot. Give it a try, i hope it helps i know just how frustrating using Substratum can be.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-themediy-samsung-galaxy-s8-s7-s6-j-t3685010

Thanks! I'll check that out

 

[note3userr]

I was having the same issue. I was loving substratum on nougat now on Oreo they never stick. My nav buttons constantly go back to the stock Samsung ones and under substratum it tells me the nav bar theme is active and installed. I have to manually connect it to a computer just to uninstall and then reinstall every single time. I'm just gonna stick to Samsung theme store

 

[shadow_hunter104]

Well it does apply and work well, until I reboot the phone. If I understand correctly, you have to activate Andromeda every time you reboot, but Substratum will not reapply the theme after that and I have to remove the theme, reboot, apply the theme, reboot, enable the theme. PITA is you ask me.




Thanks! I'll check that out

I got root. So Andromeda is not needed. Just the themes are not applying correctly. And appears buggy for me. And yes I'm using Oreo Samsung compatible themes

 

[TheStillMan]

I've been on Oreo for a while and unfortunately this is an issue that's been persisting for months. I gave up on
Substratum because as said before you will absolutely need to enable Andromeda EVERY time you reboot your phone and need to run Substratum. That's if the overlays even stuck in the first place. I've been using ThemeGalaxy and IMO its better than Substratum. The changes stick and you can make them custom to how you want it and the theme is applied fro,m the Theme store on the device so it doesn't matter how many times you reboot. Give it a try, i hope it helps i know just how frustrating using Substratum can be.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-themediy-samsung-galaxy-s8-s7-s6-j-t3685010

I've been using ThemeGalaxy now and it works pretty well. A little less 3rd party app support, but that should grow. Overall, I'm happy to have themes back again!

 

[Y0sHii]

I've been using ThemeGalaxy now and it works pretty well. A little less 3rd party app support, but that should grow. Overall, I'm happy to have themes back again!

Glad to hear it, i still use Substratum for overlays with a few things here and there but ultimately i use ThemeGalaxy. Hopefully Substratum will start to work better on Samsung devices running Oreo in near updates.

 

[Limeybastard]

I've been using ThemeGalaxy now and it works pretty well. A little less 3rd party app support, but that should grow. Overall, I'm happy to have themes back again!

What's theme Galaxy?

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[TheStillMan]

What's theme Galaxy?

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Check the link below. Different theme app.

I've been on Oreo for a while and unfortunately this is an issue that's been persisting for months. I gave up on
Substratum because as said before you will absolutely need to enable Andromeda EVERY time you reboot your phone and need to run Substratum. That's if the overlays even stuck in the first place. I've been using ThemeGalaxy and IMO its better than Substratum. The changes stick and you can make them custom to how you want it and the theme is applied fro,m the Theme store on the device so it doesn't matter how many times you reboot. Give it a try, i hope it helps i know just how frustrating using Substratum can be.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-themediy-samsung-galaxy-s8-s7-s6-j-t3685010

 

[dashrendar]

Well it does apply and work well, until I reboot the phone. If I understand correctly, you have to activate Andromeda every time you reboot, but Substratum will not reapply the theme after that and I have to remove the theme, reboot, apply the theme, reboot, enable the theme. PITA is you ask me.




Thanks! I'll check that out

That was my experience--basically, the themes would not stick on reboot even though I was not updating apps or re-applying themes. The System UI themes would stick, but not the apps. They all went back to default. I tried this numerous times and it didn't work...

Until this morning. The only change I did was I made sure that, to begin with, I was using the default Samsung theme from their theme store. Once I did that, it started working better. So basically...

1. Uninstall all overlays, reboot;
2. Make sure you are using Samsung default theme.
3. I deleted other themes I downloaded (Material_Black in my case);
4. Reboot;
5. Select overlays and choose "Install and Enable". Reboot.
6. Select overlays and choose "Enable selected". After a couple of secs the Substratum app updates its own theme.
7. Reboot.

In the past, after the last step, the app themes go back to default. Today, I rebooted 3-4 times and everything stick. I'm not really sure whether it was the Samsung default theme thing or just pure lucky configuration at the time. I just thought I'd share.

Going forward, my pain is when I update apps, I have to connect my PC and re-apply overlays. This is not so bad for me because:

1. I update apps manually weekly
2. The new Substratum experience does not require me to acknowledge install and uninstall of each overlay--It's automatic which I prefer.

I'll check out ThemeGalaxy though. That looks interesting.

 

[TheStillMan]

That was my experience--basically, the themes would not stick on reboot even though I was not updating apps or re-applying themes. The System UI themes would stick, but not the apps. They all went back to default. I tried this numerous times and it didn't work...

Until this morning. The only change I did was I made sure that, to begin with, I was using the default Samsung theme from their theme store. Once I did that, it started working better. So basically...

1. Uninstall all overlays, reboot;
2. Make sure you are using Samsung default theme.
3. I deleted other themes I downloaded (Material_Black in my case);
4. Reboot;
5. Select overlays and choose "Install and Enable". Reboot.
6. Select overlays and choose "Enable selected". After a couple of secs the Substratum app updates its own theme.
7. Reboot.

In the past, after the last step, the app themes go back to default. Today, I rebooted 3-4 times and everything stick. I'm not really sure whether it was the Samsung default theme thing or just pure lucky configuration at the time. I just thought I'd share.

Going forward, my pain is when I update apps, I have to connect my PC and re-apply overlays. This is not so bad for me because:

1. I update apps manually weekly
2. The new Substratum experience does not require me to acknowledge install and uninstall of each overlay--It's automatic which I prefer.

I'll check out ThemeGalaxy though. That looks interesting.

Which theme are you using? I gave Substratum another try and I am able to get them to stick now, but nothing is theming the Quick Settings or Notification area.

 

[dashrendar]

Which theme are you using? I gave Substratum another try and I am able to get them to stick now, but nothing is theming the Quick Settings or Notification area.

Swift for Samsung, black option.

 

[TheStillMan]

Swift for Samsung, black option.

Huh, that's what I'm using too. Android System will theme, but System UI, System UI QS Tile Icons, and System UI Status Bar Icons will not theme, they stay orange in Substratum and never enable.

 

[jamesh53]

There's a Telegram channel for Swift Themes. I can't link to it because I am new here. You can find it at the bottom of the Googl Play store link for Swift Black.

They have links to alpha/beta builds of Substratum. I followed the directions on their and am now running a working copy of Swift Black on my Note 8. Took me hours to figure this out hope it helps someone.