Suggestions for root & ROM

[Demon27]

I have a Turbo with UDP and still have stock 4.4.4. I have the Sim card from my old RAZR Maxx in it that I trimmed down to the correct size (not sure if that makes a difference). I want to root for 3 main reasons - 1. WiFi hotspot. 2. Do away with some bloat. 3. Stop Ota screen that pops up every day.
I know the first thing I need to do is mofo root. I just want someone's suggestions who has already rooted. I still want a reliable phone without any weird glitches or something I constantly have to fool with. If I can stick with the 4.4.4 and just make those changes that would be OK with me. Or if someone knows a good smooth operating ROM to use please point me in the right direction. Thanks

 

[schwinn8]

Mofo is not the current root method... Sunshine is, and it's a better option overall. Also, if you're still on 4.4.4 you need to update to Lollipop to run Sunshine. I see no reason to stick to 4.4.4, either. I recommend catching up on the various threads about this, as they probably answer your questions, for the most part.

My personal choice is to stay with the stock ROM because I have heard of too many issues with Bluetooth and VoLTE on the CM-based ones. You could consider CF's ROM which is based on stock, if you want to move away from "stock".

EDIT: A few links to get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/roms-t3347701

Forwarning - the latest OTA for SU4TL-49 will permalock (for now, at least) the bootloader, so DON'T apply that update - the first thread details that info as well.

 

[ChazzMatt]

Mofo Root/Kitkat 4.4.4 went out over 7 months ago (November 2015), when Sunshine team found an exploit for Snapdragon 805 devices and 5.1 Lollipop to unlock the bootloader.

With 5.1 and Sunshine you can have REAL root and TWRP custom recovery.

Just be very careful and do NOT update to SU4TL-49. That's the most recent update (pushed out in May 2016) where Verizon finally closed the Sunshine exploit.

There's a link in Development to flash SU4TL-44, which works with Sunshine.

Once your bootloader is unlocked, then you can update to SU4TL-49. It can't lock it back. It just prevents it from being unlocked.

 

[SXRXNRR]

Additonal Droid Turbo Root Info - XT1254 - QuarkSecurity Patch level 2016-04-01

Requirements; Unlocked Bootloader, Sunshine(Latest) SuperSU, TWRP Manager. Additional Suggested; Rom Manager(Helpful) Titanium Backup(Helpful) If you have updated to 23.21.49.quark_verizon.verizon.en.US vzw, (Tested only on this stock rom) and you do not have root, as long as you unlocked your bootloader, there is an EASY rooting method. I always reset first for testing, but you probably do not have to.......1: download and install Sunshine. Run Sunshine. When it gives you "temp root", minimize the app, (remember not to have any options set to kill when out of focus) download and install SuperSU, Set the following options in SuperSU, Enable Superuser, Default Access GRANTED, Enable SU DURING BOOT, Make sure Mount namespace seperation is checked, Turn OFF tapjacking protection, )can be re-enabled after process is finished, INSTALL SuperSU into /system, Trust System User, Enable PRO(Pseudo). Shut the phone Down. Restart. You have root. Now install TWRP manager, install the recovery suite, setup as you see fit. Optional, but useful, if you use a terminal as I do, install Sudo installer using the recovery install. Optional/ Titanium Backup is nice for people who play with roms, and root, etc....Rom manager is also very useful. Remember in most cases, if you have an option that does not specifically say DROID TURBO, or has the turbo hardware id, the DROID MAXX options usually work. Hope someone other than me has fun with this....:0) Remember, UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER FIRST. This whole thing is mainly directed at the people who already unlocked the bootloader, and then upgraded somehow, and lost root.

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this DOES work with SU4TL-49!

 

[ChazzMatt]

Requirements; Unlocked Bootloader, Sunshine(Latest) SuperSU, TWRP Manager. Additional Suggested; Rom Manager(Helpful) Titanium Backup(Helpful) If you have updated to 23.21.49.quark_verizon.verizon.en.US vzw, (Tested only on this stock rom) and you do not have root, as long as you unlocked your bootloader, there is an EASY rooting method. I always reset first for testing, but you probably do not have to.......1: download and install Sunshine. Run Sunshine. When it gives you "temp root",

This whole thing is mainly directed at the people who already unlocked the bootloader, and then upgraded somehow, and lost root.

---------- Post added at 02:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:53 PM ----------

this DOES work with SU4TL-49!

Uhmm... it does NOT work with SU4TL-49.

Lots of people have said even with unlocked bootloader, Sunshine no longer gives temp root with SU4TL-49 installed.

Read this thread:

Help Needed From XT 1254 Developers Please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/help/help-xt-1254-developers-please-t3390557

It's specifically from an XT1254 user with an unlocked bootloader, who installed the OTA SU4TL-49 and no longer could get TEMP ROOT. Luckily, once we figured out he had an unlocked bootloader, he just had to install TWRP to get permanent root!

If you already have an unlocked bootloader, the best way is to get root is to go ahead and install TWRP and then root,

I don't understand the people who unlocked their bootloader prior to SU4TL-49 and did not then go ahead and permanently root their phones... But apparently they are out there. They were constantly using Sunshine temp root and now with SU4TL-49 that no longer works.

 

[SXRXNRR]

Worked on mine. Want pics?

It worked on mine. Want pics of it????

Uhmm... it does NOT work with SU4TL-49.

Lots of people have said even with unlocked bootloader, Sunshine no longer gives temp root with SU4TL-49 installed.

Read this thread:

Help Needed From XT 1254 Developers Please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/help/help-xt-1254-developers-please-t3390557

It's specifically from an XT1254 user with an unlocked bootloader, who installed the OTA SU4TL-49 and no longer could get TEMP ROOT. Luckily, once we figured out he had an unlocked bootloader, he just had to install TWRP to get permanent root!

If you already have an unlocked bootloader, the best way is to get root is to go ahead and install TWRP and then root,

I don't understand the people who unlocked their bootloader prior to SU4TL-49 and did not then go ahead and permanently root their phones... But apparently they are out there. They were constantly using Sunshine temp root and now with SU4TL-49 that no longer works.

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I did exactly as stated, it is perm root. I dont know why you would challenge that? Im sitting here with it? With sudo terminal, twrp, titanium root, etc....im not delusional dude.

Uhmm... it does NOT work with SU4TL-49.

Lots of people have said even with unlocked bootloader, Sunshine no longer gives temp root with SU4TL-49 installed.

Read this thread:

Help Needed From XT 1254 Developers Please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/help/help-xt-1254-developers-please-t3390557

It's specifically from an XT1254 user with an unlocked bootloader, who installed the OTA SU4TL-49 and no longer could get TEMP ROOT. Luckily, once we figured out he had an unlocked bootloader, he just had to install TWRP to get permanent root!

If you already have an unlocked bootloader, the best way is to get root is to go ahead and install TWRP and then root,

I don't understand the people who unlocked their bootloader prior to SU4TL-49 and did not then go ahead and permanently root their phones... But apparently they are out there. They were constantly using Sunshine temp root and now with SU4TL-49 that no longer works.

---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:49 PM ----------

Seriously, I read these posts, and tried anyway. It worked. Isnt that what we are supposed to do? share our finds?

 

[TheSt33v]

It worked on mine. Want pics of it????

Yes, I would like to see pics, considering that the developer of Sunshine (who is a professional security researcher) said himself that it would not work on SU4TL-49. That, along with the many, many reports of people saying that it does not work on SU4TL-49, cause reason for suspicion.

And yes, XDA is for sharing findings, but only if those findings are valid and do not lead to other people doing things that they will regret based on bad advice.

 

[ChazzMatt]

It worked on mine. Want pics of it????

I did exactly as stated, it is perm root. I dont know why you would challenge that? Im sitting here with it? With sudo terminal, twrp, titanium root, etc....im not delusional dude.

Seriously, I read these posts, and tried anyway. It worked. Isnt that what we are supposed to do? share our finds?

OF course you have TWRP, because you installed TWRP with an unlocked bootloader. But you probably didn't get temp root with SU4TL-49 first. You got root from TWRP.

All I'm questioning is getting temp root first with SU4TL-49 installed -- on an XT1254 with unocked bootloader which had previously never had TWRP or other permanent root before that.

If you got managed to get temp root first with SU4TL-49 first (and had never installed TWRP or rooted before), you must have a magical phone. @jcase would be very interested.

What would you show me pics of? You've already installed TWRP and rooted -- which can be easily be done with an unlocked bootloader and TWRP. Showing us pictures of that doesn't show us anything.


If you have an XT1254 with an unlocked bootloader and no root, the best way is to go ahead and install TWRP custom recovery and root. (You can only unlock your bootloader with Sunshine prior to instaling SU4TL-49.)

 

[SXRXNRR]

I dont need kudos from anybody. I shared because I did it. On a factory reset turbo, that was updated. I dont care if you dont believe either. makes no difference to me. Obviously posting here is grounds for attack. I was simply sharing, It worked. Consider the conversation closed. I wont be sharing anything here. TWRP was installed AFTER the temp root. Running sunshine and seeing TEMP root achieved, I installed SuperSU as stated, then TWRP manager, etc...Im a 45 year old security geek. I take offense with your attitude. I wouldnt post it if the steps didnt work. Thanks for the friendly atmosphere. Really. Maybe I do have a magical phone. WTFK?

 

[jcase]

OF course you have TWRP, because you installed TWRP with an unlocked bootloader. But you probably didn't get temp root with SU4TL-49 first. You got root from TWRP.

If you got temp root from SU4TL-49 first, you must have a magical phone. @jcase would be very interested.

What would you show me pics of? You've already rooted your phone and installed TWRP, which can be easily be done with an unlocked bootloader and TWRP. Showing us pictures of that doesn't show us anything.

All I'm questioning is getting temp root first with SU4TL-49 installed -- with no TWRP or other permanent root before that. If you have an unlocked bootloader, the best way is to go ahead and install TWRP and root. At that point, you had already unlocked your bootloader prior to SU4TL-49.

He probably has the su44 bootloaders

 

[ChazzMatt]

I dont need kudos from anybody. I shared because I did it. On a factory reset turbo, that was updated. I dont care if you dont believe either. makes no difference to me. Obviously posting here is grounds for attack. I was simply sharing, It worked. Consider the conversation closed. I wont be sharing anything here. TWRP was installed AFTER the temp root. Running sunshine and seeing TEMP root achieved, I installed SuperSU as stated, then TWRP manager, etc...Im a 45 year old security geek. I take offense with your attitude. I wouldnt post it if the steps didnt work. Thanks for the friendly atmosphere. Really. Maybe I do have a magical phone. WTFK?

See the previous post above from Sunshine dev. The "magical" part is you are somehow the exception if you had an unlocked bootloader, no permanent root, and installed the OTA. It won't work for most other people. Somehow you installed SU4TL-49 update but not the bootloader that goes with it. You must still have the SU4TL-44 bootloader.

Now that you are telling more details "On a factory reset turbo,", it's becoming clear you had root, TWRP installed before. What you are doing has been described in detail before in the thread (from May) I'm quoting below. It's nothing new, nothing fantastic.

But what you seemed to be describing at first was using Sunshine to get temp root when you never had permanent root before (and I wasn't the only one who thought so) . That scenario is impossible.

Posting here is not grounds for attack. We just don't believe you did something no one else has been able to do, without explaining why you were able to do it. Especially when there's no proof at each step, but an easy alternative explanation (TWRP, then root) if you really installed the complete SU4TL-49 update. There's been many, many people including myself who have done stuff, then said, "I'm not sure the exact steps I did to get here." With only 1 post prior to this, we have to question your seeming amazing story.

Now that you have added more details, all you did was re-flash TWRP on an unlocked bootloader phone that already had root and TWRP previously. That's been described since May, see thread quote below. It's for people who previously had root, re-set their phone to install the update. Then afterwards, yes, you can get temp root back with Sunshine. But the important part is at some point you already have permanent root prior to installing the OTA. See steps 11-16, as well as the trouble shooting.

New OTA Available for Droid Turbo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/ota-available-droid-turbo-t3378576

DO NOT UPDATE IF YOUR BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED AND YOU WANT TO UNLOCK IT AT SOME POINT

DO NOT UPDATE IF YOUR BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED AND YOU WANT TO UNLOCK IT AT SOME POINT

DO NOT UPDATE IF YOUR BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED AND YOU WANT TO UNLOCK IT AT SOME POINT

Small update to build SU4TL-49. Not Marshmallow. Claims "security patches and improved network performance."

How to Update with an Unlocked Bootloader

The update will only work if you have a 100% unmodified stock rom and recovery menu. If you're on CF's rom and you want to update to the latest version of that, see his page for details on how to do that.

1. Backup all data. Just in case. Definitely do this if you're coming from CM13 or RR. I don't remember if the OTA wipes your data or not.
2. Download this SU4TL-44 100% stock flashable zip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-su4tl-44-100-stock-t3320815
3. Download the SU4TL-44 stock recovery menu here: https://mega.nz/#!L1AkQD4T!qoZIlLa-wuUBLMEi_gE574meiHd6Pehb34a-x3Gb-V8
4. Boot into TWRP.
5. Flash the file you downloaded in step 2 by selecting Install and browsing to the file.
6. In TWRP, select Install, followed by install image, and select the recovery image that you downloaded in step 3. Tell it to flash it to recovery, and flash it.
7. If you're coming from CM13 or RR, do a factory reset in TWRP. If you're coming from a modified stock rom, I still recommend this, but it's not mandatory.
8. Reboot to recovery to confirm that you see the stock recovery menu (a dead android with the words "no command").
9. Boot the phone normally. If TWRP offers to install SuperSU, say no.
10. The OTA update should appear. Take it and let it do its thing.

You now have a 100% stock, bootloader still unlocked, SU4TL-49 phone. If you want TWRP back so you can start flashing stuff again, keep reading.

11. Download and install Sunshine from here: http://theroot.ninja/
12. Download your preferred version of TWRP. The current stable version is here: https://dl.twrp.me/quark/. If you want baybutcher27's modded version that includes lots of handy additional features, you can get that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66877208&postcount=116
13. Download Flashify from the play store.
14. Open Sunshine and follow the instructions until it gains temp root. Disregard the message that says it isn't compatible with SU4TL-49.
15. Open Flashify, select Recovery Image, then browse to the version of TWRP that you downloaded in step 11. Flash it.
16. Reboot to recovery. You should see TWRP's lovely smiling face staring back at you.

How to Install the SU4TL-49 Modem Only

1. [HIGHLY RECOMMENDED] Flash the modded TWRP I mentioned earlier, select backup, backup only your modem.
2. Flash Computerfreek274's modem package that you can get here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24545070682210570
3. If you have GPS or other modem-related issues, try flashing this to fix them: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24531035584725320
4. If you decide you don't like the new modem, restore the backup you made in step 1.


Troubleshooting

Issue: You followed all of the steps, but you still get an error when you try to take the OTA.

Solution: Backup your data and perform a factory reset using the stock recovery menu. You can do this by rebooting to recovery like you do when you want to boot TWRP, and when you see the "no command" screen, hold the power button and press volume up. Then select factory reset and do it.

 

[ChazzMatt]

Yes, I would like to see pics, considering that the developer of Sunshine (who is a professional security researcher) said himself that it would not work on SU4TL-49. That, along with the many, many reports of people saying that it does not work on SU4TL-49, cause reason for suspicion.

And yes, XDA is for sharing findings, but only if those findings are valid and do not lead to other people doing things that they will regret based on bad advice.

Just like in your thread I quoted, it's clear now he had root, TWRP installed prior to a factory re-set to install SU4TL-49. He didn't initially disclose it was a factory re-set, and that he had previous permanent root and TWRP.

Perhaps unintentionally, he made it seem he only had unlocked bootloader and had been using Sunshine to get temp root. At least that's how I read it. Now with SU4TL-49, temp root will no longer works in that scenario. But if you've already gotten permanent root, TWRP and install the update -- even with a factory re-set -- you've made enough changes that Sunshine will still work to give you temp root.

At that point, yes Sunshine will still give you temp root -- just like you posted in your thread. To me, and it's my opinion only it seems your steps, downloading TWRP from Quark thread, using Flashify would seem simpler. You have TWRP and then can use TWRP to get root.

Once we know all the facts, his experience is not fantastic and if he had just read your thread we could have skipped the drama.

 

[TheSt33v]

Just like in your thread I quoted, it's clear now he had root, TWRP installed prior to a factory re-set to install SU4TL-49. He didn't initially disclose it was a factory re-set, and that he had previous permanent root and TWRP.

Perhaps unintentionally, he made it seem he only had unlocked bootloader and had been using Sunshine to get temp root. At least that's how I read it. Now with SU4TL-49, temp root will no longer works in that scenario. But if you've already gotten permanent root, TWRP and install the update -- even with a factory re-set -- you've made enough changes that Sunshine will still work to give you temp root.

At that point, yes Sunshine will still give you temp root -- just like you posted in your thread. To me, and it's my opinion only it seems your steps, downloading TWRP from Quark thread, using Flashify would seem simpler. You have TWRP and then can use TWRP to get root.

Once we know all the facts, his experience is not fantastic and if he had just read your thread we could have skipped the drama.

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