Question Super fast charging 2.0 on Baseus charger

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kevindd992002

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This is the 100W Baseus deskop charger and I have two issues with it:

1. When two USB C ports are used, the power division is C1=65W and C2=30W. So C1 should still be more than capable enough to handle SFC 2.0 45W charging. But as you can see in the video, SFC 2.0 is not working when two USB C ports are used.

2. When I charge at SFC 2.0 and SFC 1.0 with the same charger, they both cap at 33W. I thought SFC 1.0 is just 25W? When I use the official 25W Samsung SFC 1.0 charger, it just caps off at 24W as expected.

Baseus support sucks big time so I'm having a problem reporting this to them.
 

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This is the 100W Baseus deskop charger and I have two issues with it:

1. When two USB C ports are used, the power division is C1=65W and C2=30W. So C1 should still be more than capable enough to handle SFC 2.0 45W charging. But as you can see in the video, SFC 2.0 is not working when two USB C ports are used.

2. When I charge at SFC 2.0 and SFC 1.0 with the same charger, they both cap at 33W. I thought SFC 1.0 is just 25W? When I use the official 25W Samsung SFC 1.0 charger, it just caps off at 24W as expected.

Baseus support sucks big time so I'm having a problem reporting this to them.
Baseus GaN5 Pro 65 watt can charge at 50watt peak.

after 60 percent,watt same as samsung 25 watt charger.
 

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kevindd992002

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But your measurement is input power to the charger and not output power to the phone. There's a bit of a difference because of power adapter efficiency. I don't know what is the difference between the Gan5 Pro 65W and this 100W adapter really.
 

Stenlius

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This is normal for such a charger. I have a PZOZ version - 65W GaN 2xUSB C + 1xUSB A. SFC 2.0 works only with 1 device plugged in, if you plug another (it might be a 5W one) - this breaks the SFC. I can assume that this is coming from the controller and the device is actually not capable to support such scenario, even though the power is declared as 100W.
 

kevindd992002

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Hmmm, that's interesting. I thought the issue was isolated to BaseUS. Their support is really non-existent. They reply but it's like you're talking to a stupid person that does not understand the issue.

Aside from this issue, do you have any other issues when using both ports? As for me, when I charge my phone while my laptop is plugged in, it sometimes drops the wattage on the laptop device to just 19w. If the laptop is plugged in by itself, it goes up to 59w. Not sure what's going on here.

Are there any usb c car chargers that support sfc 2.0?
 

Nmc_alves®

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Hmmm, that's interesting. I thought the issue was isolated to BaseUS. Their support is really non-existent. They reply but it's like you're talking to a stupid person that does not understand the issue.

Aside from this issue, do you have any other issues when using both ports? As for me, when I charge my phone while my laptop is plugged in, it sometimes drops the wattage on the laptop device to just 19w. If the laptop is plugged in by itself, it goes up to 59w. Not sure what's going on here.

Are there any usb c car chargers that support sfc 2.0?

Satechi - USB / USB C car charger with 72W:

Simultaneous Charging: Has both a universal USB A port and a Type-C port

Quick Charge: Devices can be charged quickly on the go

Powerful and compact design: Type-C power 60W (max), Type-A power 12W (max), total 72W

Equipped with an LED indicator to check the charging status

With Power Delivery for particularly fast charging

Compatible with almost all USB devices and most USB Type-C devices

The Satechi USB C and USB A Car Charger is the perfect solution for charging your devices on the go. Never worry about how to charge your smartphone, tablet, computer or other device while on the go. Simply connect the charger to your car's cigarette lighter and connect the other end of the USB cable to the USB port of the desired device. You can already charge your device on the go. Satechi's Dual Car Charger allows you to simultaneously charge a 13" MacBook Pro (2016) via the USB-C port and an iPhone/tablet via the USB-A port. The output power for the USB-C port is 60 W (max) and 12 W for the USB-A port.

ATTENTION: The delivery does not include a USB cable!

Color: white/silver

Brand: Satechi

Model: ST-TCPDCCS

Weight: about 34g

Technical specifications:

Input: DC12V - 24V

USB-C output: 60W (max)

USB A output: 12W (max)

Total Power: 72W




Baseus aluminum 45W USB / USB C car charger:

Charges up to 4 times faster than conventional USB/USB C adapters

Extremely small and light (ideal for travelling)

With support for Power Delivery 3.0 / Quick Charge 4.0

45W output current power

With LED display on the charger

Charge your USB / USB C compatible devices such as smartphones, tablets or MP3 players, etc. in the car now. With the Baseus USB / USB C car charger, your devices are always fully charged while driving. The Baseus Car Charger Auto USB / USB C is ideal for people with active lifestyles who travel a lot. It simply plugs into your vehicle's power outlet (cigarette lighter) and charges while driving.

The power supply also supports the latest Power Delivery 3.0 and Quick Charge 4.0 technologies, with which you can charge your iPhone X up to 50% in just 30 minutes. The car charger always guarantees the maximum charging capacity to charge your electronic devices, with a current output line of up to 6 amps.

ATTENTION: USB/USB C cable not included (can be ordered in store).

The black color

Manufacturer: Baseus

Material: aluminum/plastic

Technical specifications:

Performance/power: 45 watts

Input: 12-24V

USB Output: 4.5V/5A; 5V/4.5A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 20V/2.25A

USB-C Output: 5V/3A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 15V/3A; 20V/2.25A

Output USB + USB C Total: 5V/6A max
 

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kevindd992002

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Satechi - USB / USB C car charger with 72W:

Simultaneous Charging: Has both a universal USB A port and a Type-C port

Quick Charge: Devices can be charged quickly on the go

Powerful and compact design: Type-C power 60W (max), Type-A power 12W (max), total 72W

Equipped with an LED indicator to check the charging status

With Power Delivery for particularly fast charging

Compatible with almost all USB devices and most USB Type-C devices

The Satechi USB C and USB A Car Charger is the perfect solution for charging your devices on the go. Never worry about how to charge your smartphone, tablet, computer or other device while on the go. Simply connect the charger to your car's cigarette lighter and connect the other end of the USB cable to the USB port of the desired device. You can already charge your device on the go. Satechi's Dual Car Charger allows you to simultaneously charge a 13" MacBook Pro (2016) via the USB-C port and an iPhone/tablet via the USB-A port. The output power for the USB-C port is 60 W (max) and 12 W for the USB-A port.

ATTENTION: The delivery does not include a USB cable!

Color: white/silver

Brand: Satechi

Model: ST-TCPDCCS

Weight: about 34g

Technical specifications:

Input: DC12V - 24V

USB-C output: 60W (max)

USB A output: 12W (max)

Total Power: 72W




Baseus aluminum 45W USB / USB C car charger:

Charges up to 4 times faster than conventional USB/USB C adapters

Extremely small and light (ideal for travelling)

With support for Power Delivery 3.0 / Quick Charge 4.0

45W output current power

With LED display on the charger

Charge your USB / USB C compatible devices such as smartphones, tablets or MP3 players, etc. in the car now. With the Baseus USB / USB C car charger, your devices are always fully charged while driving. The Baseus Car Charger Auto USB / USB C is ideal for people with active lifestyles who travel a lot. It simply plugs into your vehicle's power outlet (cigarette lighter) and charges while driving.

The power supply also supports the latest Power Delivery 3.0 and Quick Charge 4.0 technologies, with which you can charge your iPhone X up to 50% in just 30 minutes. The car charger always guarantees the maximum charging capacity to charge your electronic devices, with a current output line of up to 6 amps.

ATTENTION: USB/USB C cable not included (can be ordered in store).

The black color

Manufacturer: Baseus

Material: aluminum/plastic

Technical specifications:

Performance/power: 45 watts

Input: 12-24V

USB Output: 4.5V/5A; 5V/4.5A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 20V/2.25A

USB-C Output: 5V/3A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 15V/3A; 20V/2.25A

Output USB + USB C Total: 5V/6A max
But I bought the 65W charger and BaseUS said that it can only do PPS 18W.
 

ask77

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S23 Ultra requires 10v 4.5 amp to achieve 45 w charging . Charger and Cable both should be capable of 5 amp current capacity and Charger should support PD 3.0 with PPS at 5 amp that is the basic requirement, Cable should have a e-marker chip to identify it as having 5 amp capacity to the charger. usually such cables have 5 amp written on the USB C port and are visibly thicker than the normal 3 amp cables .
 

kevindd992002

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S23 Ultra requires 10v 4.5 amp to achieve 45 w charging . Charger and Cable both should be capable of 5 amp current capacity and Charger should support PD 3.0 with PPS at 5 amp that is the basic requirement, Cable should have a e-marker chip to identify it as having 5 amp capacity to the charger. usually such cables have 5 amp written on the USB C port and are visibly thicker than the normal 3 amp cables .
Do you have any reference for that 10V 4.5A information? Some say it's 9V 5A but I never saw any official claims from Samsung regarding that too. I have no issues with cables. I'm using 100W BaseUS cables with e-marker chips on them. They don't have the 5A writing on them but they are obviously thicker than the included Samsung cable (which is only for 25W charging). Here are the specs of the 100W BaseUS desktop charger that I have:

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As you can see, it does support PD3.0. Although PPS is not written there, it does support it as well as confirmed by BaseUS support and the video that I showed. I don't see 10V anywhere though so I'm not sure how it works with PPS or something. Does PPS adjust the voltage with fine adjustments or something? Also, that doesn't explain the issue I'm having where SFC 2.0 won't work when two USB ports are used. It only works when the phone is charged alone and this defeats the purpose of buying a multi-port charger in the first place.
 

ask77

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Go to settings, about phone , and then status information the last entry there is Rated 10 V 4.5 Amp . Yes pps adjusts voltage with fine adjustment of 20mv . It can provide between 3.3 V to 21 V at upto 5 Amp . Your problem seems to be related to the charger itself which is unable to deliver the required power when two usb ports are used . BTW you can use an app called accubattery which should give you the exact charging data for your phone.
 

kevindd992002

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Go to settings, about phone , and then status information the last entry there is Rated 10 V 4.5 Amp . Yes pps adjusts voltage with fine adjustment of 20mv . It can provide between 3.3 V to 21 V at upto 5 Amp . Your problem seems to be related to the charger itself which is unable to deliver the required power when two usb ports are used . BTW you can use an app called accubattery which should give you the exact charging data for your phone.
Ok, I see that now. Well, @Stenlius replied to this thread and says that this is normal. Any comments on that?

What's more weird though is that when it's charging at sfc 2.0, the cable only shows 33w. When I plug in another device in the charger, it renegotiates to sfc 1.0 but still at 33w!

When I use the official 25w samsung charger with the same cable, it goes down to 24w as expected.
 

JazonX

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SFC 2.0 - So far I have only seen with the Samsung official chargers. I've spent so much money on Belkin, Baseus, UGreen, Anker accessories and never been able to get peak speeds.
 

kevindd992002

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SFC 2.0 - So far I have only seen with the Samsung official chargers. I've spent so much money on Belkin, Baseus, UGreen, Anker accessories and never been able to get peak speeds.
Oh wow, that's good to know. Were you getting around the same wattage as I do at 33W? I still have time to return these and is why I'm asking for help here to verify if I don't have an isolated issue or something.
 

JazonX

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Oh wow, that's good to know. Were you getting around the same wattage as I do at 33W? I still have time to return these and is why I'm asking for help here to verify if I don't have an isolated issue or something.

Never had the tools to measure the wattage output.

I just plug and wait for SFC 2.0 to show up, and if it doesn't - I just get rid of it.

I've tried 120W Xiaomi chargers as well.
Max anything other than samsung genuine chargers can go up to is "Fast Charging" or super charging 1.0.
 

kevindd992002

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Never had the tools to measure the wattage output.

I just plug and wait for SFC 2.0 to show up, and if it doesn't - I just get rid of it.

I've tried 120W Xiaomi chargers as well.
Max anything other than samsung genuine chargers can go up to is "Fast Charging" or super charging 1.0.
Well theh that's not the same case as mine. If you read my OP and watched the video, you'll see that I can do sfc 2.0 with this baseus charger but only maxes at 33 watts. I thought you had the same issue as mine.
 

domperidane

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Well theh that's not the same case as mine. If you read my OP and watched the video, you'll see that I can do sfc 2.0 with this baseus charger but only maxes at 33 watts. I thought you had the same issue as mine.
peak charging only below 20 percent.

after that 3x watt.
after 60 percent 2x watt,same as 25 watt samsung original charger and cable from the box.(3A cable).

basesus gan 2 lite 65 watt and basesus gan 5 pro 65 watt support SFC 2.0.
tested with S23 Ultra.

this image is s23 ultra at 15 percent battery.
charging with samsung original 45 watt charger.
 

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kevindd992002

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peak charging only below 20 percent.

after that 3x watt.
after 60 percent 2x watt,same as 25 watt samsung original charger and cable from the box.(3A cable).

basesus gan 2 lite 65 watt and basesus gan 5 pro 65 watt support SFC 2.0.
tested with S23 Ultra.

this image is s23 ultra at 15 percent battery.
charging with samsung original 45 watt charger.
Ok, that makes sense. I'll try charging at 15% and see if it makes it to 48W.

Also, have you tried charging yout s23 ultra with more than one usb port plugged in your charger? That does not work as you see in my video.
 

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