[TELUS T959D Fascinate]-Running S.U.R.F.A.C.E ICS

bucknetbucky

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First of all I would like to give credit where credit is due and say thank you to SamHaLeKe for all the work he put into this port and all the other Developers involved to bring ICS to the SGS

If you would like a full run down of this ROM and what is included as any new developments, please visit the ROM thread

Now off to the good bits ...

Install

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND YOUR PHONE CEASES TO WORK. THIS IS NOT A DETAILED WALK THROUGH BY ANY MEANS. I AM ASSUMING YOU READ ONE OF THE MANY OTHER TELUS THREADS THAT HAVE THE FULL INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDED TO PERFORM THE BELOW STEPS.

Note: I am not going to post all the links to files as I do not have the time to update them everyday when something changes. I will however post links to the ROM and Kernel threads for your reference.

I decided to start fresh (and I mean fresh) from stock FROYO with a full SD format and the works.

Step 1
Flashed back to stock with ODIN. Again I used FROYO but I am sure GB would work. If you want to start fresh as I did, go to options storage and format the internal SD (13 GB).

Step 2
Download the ROM and Glitch V13 kernel (what I used) and copy them to the SD card of the phone. I suggest removing any external SD as not to copy the files to the wrong spot (guess what I did LOL).

Step 3
Flash voodoo kernel from ODIN to root and install clockwork recovery making sure that you do not repartition in ODIN

Step 4 - Note: The older voodoo kernel gave an "assert failed" error trying to flash the ROM through recovery)
Boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik then flash the Glitch V13 kernel from zip and reboot. At this point you will most likely be boot looping but no worries everything is OK :)

Step 4
Pull the battery and then boot into recovery with volume up + volume down +power. Wipe cache and dalvik and flash the ROM from the ZIP

Let the ROM boot and then again boot to recovery and flash the essentials zip.

Voila you should be running S.U.R.F.A.C.E ICS, aint it beautiful?


I continued and flashed add on packs 1 and 2 but that is up to you

Now for my findings thus far ...

I am in no way a power user when it comes to my phone but I do play with it a lot. I have to say that this ROM seems to be the one of the smoothest to date and seems to take to our device nicely.

Battery has been nothing short of great for me. Through the week I can easily get 2 days out of it (work all day). Now I also try to minimize the drain by turning off whatever I don't need like WIFI seeing as there is none where I work.

I flashed the JL3 modem and it seems to work good for me but then I don't live where you do so you may have better luck with another.

The kernel included in the ROM (if you read the ROM post) is Glitch V14 pre which runs amazing as usual although still in the development stage. This kernel has a lot of new features that I will let you read up on yourself here

The ROM also includes supercharger and thunderbolt scripts (I admit I have little to no experience with these but I do know they help).

No FC's with this ROM other then the video camera but I have seen some posts regarding this and have not got around to working on it but will be I am sure very soon. It looks like just a file update maybe but too soon to tell.

Live overclock seems to work if I leave the voltage settings alone but that could just be a lack of experience in this area but it never hurts to try. If anyone has settings that are working for them I would love to know what they are. I have set the live overclock to 120% or 1.2ghz and it runs fine again if I do not change the voltage.

It's only been about 3 days since the install but this is what I got so far. I would recommend giving it a try for sure.

I know there are a few of us on this ROM so post up your findings here.

Thank you
Buck
 

Gage_Hero

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Similar but running Glitch v14

Thanks for the write up Buck. I have been running this rom (Surface) for a few days also but I came from cm7 to this one. I have also been toying around with it over the last few days which has gotten me in a few tight spots lol. I have my Volt control set to 1304, no voltage changes and it runs flawlessly. The modem I put on was the JVT which also seems to work well.

What I have learn about Live OC:
First you set your clock speed in Volt control, then flip over to NStools (that is the easy part)

IMPORTANT.... If you choose to mess with this, make sure settings in NStools is NOT set to apply on boot or make sure you have a good recovery to go back to. Found this out the hard way

Click on live oc and you can make changes here... If you read the articale from Glitch on this it will help alot (found in the OP for T959D).
Live oc clocks up the cpu AND bus so it affects the gpu and memory along with the cpu (very important).

Findings... some settings work fine, 105, 106,110, 114, 116. 115 seems to have issues and provides lower performance considerably lower.
I use AnTuTu to check how things are working. That being said, if you apply set at boot and you hit a setting that first craps out the phone, causes a reboot then your going to be in a bootloop or it will start reboot start reboot. This is why you DON'T do this or like I said earlier have a good recovery handy.

Right now I am only running 1304 and 100% and everything is fine except the prior mentioned FC on video cam. Oh I should mention also I am running the Lazy governor atm which also seems to work fine (default is on demand).

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bucknetbucky

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Well I think we may have broken the record for the longest 2 posts on the first page in xda history lol. Happy flash year everyone :)

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Didn't notice you guys mention this, but Glitch V14 has an option in CWM to clear NSTools settings. It's right above the option to clear voltage settings under the Glitch Menu.

It works well, believe me!!

-Maniac
 

baino

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I'm on ICS!

Thanks bucky!!

I'm on ICS now, with Glitch v14 but I have a few questions I'm hoping you can help with:

- The screen layout / icons seem shrunken to me? As well as the notification bar. General text and keyboards are fine. Is there a fix I can apply?

- With further versions from Surface can I just flash over top of what I'm on now or do I need to go back to stock?

- Do I need to use TI to bring all my apps back up (I get "App X has stopped working"), or is there a quicker way?

Thanks again.
 

bucknetbucky

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Thanks bucky!!

I'm on ICS now, with Glitch v14 but I have a few questions I'm hoping you can help with:

- The screen layout / icons seem shrunken to me? As well as the notification bar. General text and keyboards are fine. Is there a fix I can apply?

- With further versions from Surface can I just flash over top of what I'm on now or do I need to go back to stock?

- Do I need to use TI to bring all my apps back up (I get "App X has stopped working"), or is there a quicker way?

Thanks again.
Well the shrunken icons are because of the DPI setting in the build.prop file. You can change it with a text editor (I use root explorer) to the default value of 240. It is listed as LCD Density.

To flash another version you should be fine to flash over what you have with a factory reset and wipe cache

Apps well I usually just re-download from the market. I have used TI and found I get the best result if I restore without data. Remember not all apps are compatible with ICS yet so that could cause issues as well.

Enjoy the ICS I know I do.
 

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Well the shrunken icons are because of the DPI setting in the build.prop file. You can change it with a text editor (I use root explorer) to the default value of 240. It is listed as LCD Density.

To flash another version you should be fine to flash over what you have with a factory reset and wipe cache

Apps well I usually just re-download from the market. I have used TI and found I get the best result if I restore without data. Remember not all apps are compatible with ICS yet so that could cause issues as well.

Enjoy the ICS I know I do.

Hey Guys,

Why not just use rom toolbox? the build.prop tweaks give ya a niffty slider... no hackin involved...
 

baino

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Rom toolbox worked for me, it's looking beauty now. Everything seems to be working well, except I get the occasional crash on dialer / contacts. Anyone else having the same?

I'm running LauncherPro, what are you guys running?
 

bucknetbucky

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Rom toolbox worked for me, it's looking beauty now. Everything seems to be working well, except I get the occasional crash on dialer / contacts. Anyone else having the same?

I'm running LauncherPro, what are you guys running?
Nothing like that here maybe the way it was flashed I am not sure. Have you added anything?

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Only flashed the add-ons, and the launcher pack. Changed the LCD density and that's about it. I'm thinking it might be because I didn't wipe the sd card and start clean.
 

bucknetbucky

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Only flashed the add-ons, and the launcher pack. Changed the LCD density and that's about it. I'm thinking it might be because I didn't wipe the sd card and start clean.
Depends what you did before flashing. I had issues after flashing a lot and never deleting anything lol

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Working NSTools values for OC and UV

CPU:
Governor = Lazy
Min CPU = 100 (109 after live OC)
Max CPU = 1200 (1308 after live OC)
OC Value = 109%
Deep Idle = On

Custom Voltage

Arm:
1400 = unchanged
1304 = 1375
1200 = 1325
1000 = 1225
800 = 1150
400 = 975
200 = 875
100 = 875

Int Voltage
1400 = Unchanged
1304 = 1150
1200 = 1125
1000 = 1075
800 = 1050
400 = 1025
200 = 1025
100 = 925

Just set these values tonight and so far all is good and no crashes or reboots. See if it helps the battery as the days go by. Give it a shot or post your working values for others to try.

AND NO I NEVER SLEEP :eek:
 
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Working NSTools values for OC and UV
Thanks for posting your OC and UV values. I'll give those a try.
I've been experiencing random crashes and reboots (woke up this morning to a dead phone). It was plugged in overnight but crashed at some point and did not charge. Battery voltage dropped down to almost nothing.
Anyone else experiencing random reboots?

I was using an OC value of 1304 (no live OC). UV values left stock. Ondemand governor, Deep idle ON, noop IO scheduler.
I did not format my sdcard prior to install. Just did a data wipe/factory reset, format cache and dalvik then installed according to the instructions. Installed Add-on Essentials and Add-on Pack One. All other apps were reinstalled from the market (after using market enabler and changing DPI back to 240 using ROM manager).
Everything works great except for the random crashes and reboots. I'll probably start from scratch again when v1.3 comes out (except I will format the SD card). Maybe even start from stock Froyo as recommended in the OP.

EDIT:
Tried the settings and my phone was not happy. It froze when setting the UV values. My phone seems to have a problem with any live OC value other than 100%. As soon as I increase it I lose all stability.
 
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Gage_Hero

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Settings

I'm on Glitch v14 pre5 and I just clocked it up to 1300 and added 104% live OC for a stable 1352, no undervolting battery sitting @ 68% 1 day 22hrs. I did turn off some stuff I dont use and had data running on and off for the whole time.

For the guys that are having problems with flashes, I generally wipe everything I know its a pain but I don't experience any problems either. I also wait until i have a full battery too. It seems to pay off in the long run...

Happy Flashing!!!
 

baino

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Phone and contacts are working well now, but I can't get app data to save. For example some apps t's&c's keep asking for approval everytime I open the app. Also beautiful widgets skins keep reverting back to default. I'm going to wipe, format the SD card and install 1.3 from stock Froyo. here's hoping.