Testing a theory TMobile

easyrider77

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This is a theory I have that TMobile is the cause, but I'm not 100% sure yet, but pretty positive it is TMobile causing the issue.

Phone: Moto g5s plus, xt1806 US variant.

Issue:
Of the 4 most popular roms that are 8.1 Android, AOSP extended, Pixel Experience, Lineage os 15.1, and Resurrection Remix, all of these roms work well on this phone except for one thing, hotspot/ tethering. I enable hotspot on my phone, connect with my laptop, and it connects, but has no internet.

I am not over on my data, I have adjusted APN settings, build.Prop settings, multiple things to get this to work, and still have no resolve.

Today I was remembering about a site I cannot get to using TMobile service at all, but I can use wifi at another place as well as Sprint cell service, att cell service, and connect to the site just fine, everything but TMobile service works. I've confirmed this by asking others on different providers to get to the site and they can connect just fine. My daughter also has tmobile service so I had her check the site and she cannot reach the site either.

The site is Omni rom download. Google it and it should be the first hit on the search. The site times out on anything TMobile. I have done more testing using ping and tracert and both result in "cannot find the IP or server domain" of any sort. Again I can get to it in Sprint or att just fine, as well as a wifi.

Fast forward to today and the 8.1 Android roms and hotspot, my guess is that tmobile is the cause.

Again I've done some asking and digging, and found two people with this exact same phone, but one is on Verizon, one is on att, and both have working hotspot without any issues. So again this got me thinking, can this be a similar thing as the Omni rom site issue? I'm going to bet yes. So without having another sim to use from another provider like sprint network or Verizon network, I have a request.

Can people with this phone, on a tmobile network test these two things for me to confirm it is indeed TMobile and not something else?

1: test the Omni rom download site, on lte data, not on wifi please, because it will result in you can connect, use lte only please
2: anyone running these roms and is on T-Mobile service, test hotspot to see if it works.

I greatly appreciate any feedback on the testing so I can confirm if my theory is correct or not. I'm betting it is correct.

As a side note, same tmobile and my 1+3 also suffers from the same issues. That's 2 totally different phones, but the same network provider. To me this so points to the carrier as the key thing in all instances, phones, sites and hotspot, yet other carriers have no issues.
 
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Phazmos

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This is a theory I have that TMobile is the cause, but I'm not 100% sure yet, but pretty positive it is TMobile causing the issue.

Phone: Moto g5s plus, xt1806 US variant.

Issue:
Of the 4 most popular roms that are 8.1 Android, AOSP extended, Pixel Experience, Lineage os 15.1, and Resurrection Remix, all of these roms work well on this phone except for one thing, hotspot/ tethering. I enable hotspot on my phone, connect with my laptop, and it connects, but has no internet.

I am not over on my data, I have adjusted APN settings, build.Prop settings, multiple things to get this to work, and still have no resolve.

Today I was remembering about a site I cannot get to using TMobile service at all, but I can use wifi at another place as well as Sprint cell service, att cell service, and connect to the site just fine, everything but TMobile service works. I've confirmed this by asking others on different providers to get to the site and they can connect just fine. My daughter also has tmobile service so I had her check the site and she cannot reach the site either.

The site is Omni rom download. Google it and it should be the first hit on the search. The site times out on anything TMobile. I have done more testing using ping and tracert and both result in "cannot find the IP or server domain" of any sort. Again I can get to it in Sprint or att just fine, as well as a wifi.

Fast forward to today and the 8.1 Android roms and hotspot, my guess is that tmobile is the cause.

Again I've done some asking and digging, and found two people with this exact same phone, but one is on Verizon, one is on att, and both have working hotspot without any issues. So again this got me thinking, can this be a similar thing as the Omni rom site issue? I'm going to bet yes. So without having another sim to use from another provider like sprint network or Verizon network, I have a request.

Can people with this phone, on a tmobile network test these two things for me to confirm it is indeed TMobile and not something else?

1: test the Omni rom download site, on lte data, not on wifi please, because it will result in you can connect, use lte only please
2: anyone running these roms and is on T-Mobile service, test hotspot to see if it works.

I greatly appreciate any feedback on the testing so I can confirm if my theory is correct or not. I'm betting it is correct.

As a side note, same tmobile and my 1+3 also suffers from the same issues. That's 2 totally different phones, but the same network provider. To me this so points to the carrier as the key thing in all instances, phones, sites and hotspot, yet other carriers have no issues.
What's happening man!
You may remember me from another "world" lol
In that world I believe I mentioned an app - dns changer.
One way an isp can control site access is via dns. I don't know for sure if T-Mobile uses this tactic, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. In that case, running through a different dns may get access to that site.
I doubt it would help the hotspot issue, but who knows. Only takes a minute to try.
Oh - if ya do try - go into settings in the app and make sure it's set for all connections and ipv6. You'll see it
 

easyrider77

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What's happening man!
You may remember me from another "world" lol
In that world I believe I mentioned an app - dns changer.
One way an isp can control site access is via dns. I don't know for sure if T-Mobile uses this tactic, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. In that case, running through a different dns may get access to that site.
I doubt it would help the hotspot issue, but who knows. Only takes a minute to try.
Oh - if ya do try - go into settings in the app and make sure it's set for all connections and ipv6. You'll see it
Cool cool I'll give it a try.

The only thing on all this that is the common denominator, is tmobile. Other things aside from tmobile work, same hardware, same os/rom, and it works for them on different providers. I haven't yet tested for Hotspot with other carriers though. May end up doing what I did before to test that site and go to the stores and barrow a sim. Only issue is, in the case of metro pcs the sim is tied to the emie so if that's the case that won't work. With T-Mobile, they don't tie the emie to the sim card so you can swap out cards to multiple different phones without any issues.

Update:
Tried the dns app still times out

Update 2:
I just confirmed my theory. It's carrier related. I switched over to att and hotspot works fine. I can also get to that Omni site I could not before.
 
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I also have the XT1806 US model. I have tried many mods without luck. I feel this is a dns issue because I can get other phones to tether on the same $50 network plan. If anyone is on T-mobile (Metro PCS) and has 50$ plan tethering please let us know your settings and how you enabled unencrypted hotspot.
 

easyrider77

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I also have the XT1806 US model. I have tried many mods without luck. I feel this is a dns issue because I can get other phones to tether on the same $50 network plan. If anyone is on T-mobile (Metro PCS) and has 50$ plan tethering please let us know your settings and how you enabled unencrypted hotspot.
As an observation, I noticed that the omni download site is https, which means secure/encrypted. I'm thinking TMobile has some wonky setting that causes some https sites not to load and time out. I'm also thinking this is a similar issue if why hotspot isn't working on any phone I have. If it was 1 rom or 1 device, I'd have my suspicions of it being one of those, but it's on 2 different phones, and 4 different roms. The odds of that are pretty huge, this is what makes new think it's a carrier side as apposed to something else, especially since on another carrier now both work just fine without issues on all phones and roms. Also other carriers such as sprint and vz.
The one and only common denominator here is carrier which is TMobile, which is the same. Everything else in there picture is totally different. I've tested mine on T-Mobile and also my daughter's, that's 2, and from what I can tell A-bolt is also on T-Mobile network. That being the case, that's 3 out of 3 that have the issue, on T-Mobile network. That's pretty high odds that it's something other than a carrier issue.

All in all that's 4 phones that have the issue. At least one is on stock (my daughter's) so this happens on all varieties of roms be they stock or custom
 
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indiana99

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The site is Omni rom download. Google it and it should be the first hit on the search. The site times out on anything TMobile. I have done more testing using ping and tracert and both result in "cannot find the IP or server domain" of any sort. Again I can get to it in Sprint or att just fine, as well as a wifi.
I was able to browse to the omni rom website using T-Mobile data.
 

easyrider77

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I was able to browse to the omni rom website using T-Mobile data.
Data or wifi. My daughter forgot to turn off her wifi and connected, but once she connected via lte/4f she could not connect. Also are you going to the download part? I ask because I can browse the site fine, all except the download section
 

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As an observation, I noticed that the omni download site is https, which means secure/encrypted. I'm thinking TMobile has some wonky setting that causes some https sites not to load and time out. I'm also thinking this is a similar issue if why hotspot isn't working on any phone I have. If it was 1 rom or 1 device, I'd have my suspicions of it being one of those, but it's on 2 different phones, and 4 different roms. The odds of that are pretty huge, this is what makes new think it's a carrier side as apposed to something else, especially since on another carrier now both work just fine without issues on all phones and roms. Also other carriers such as sprint and vz.
The one and only common denominator here is carrier which is TMobile, which is the same. Everything else in there picture is totally different. I've tested mine on T-Mobile and also my daughter's, that's 2, and from what I can tell A-bolt is also on T-Mobile network. That being the case, that's 3 out of 3 that have the issue, on T-Mobile network. That's pretty high odds that it's something other than a carrier issue.

All in all that's 4 phones that have the issue. At least one is on stock (my daughter's) so this happens on all varieties of roms be they stock or custom
I have had some limited success using VPN Hotspot app. Still trying to figure this out.
 

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Your the only one I know that can get there.

Are you using like VPN or some ip/dns setup or something?

I'm curious as to why you can get to the site while multiple others cannot
I also get to and can display the downloads for Omni.
Went through a few device downloads. All good.
T-Mobile, data, 4G/LTE.
Only extra thing running on ROM is DNS66 for adblocking.


Moto G5S Plus XT1806, Bootleggers ROM Oreo, microG (NoGapps), MultiROM, Tapatalk 4.9.5
 

indiana99

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Your the only one I know that can get there.

Are you using like VPN or some ip/dns setup or something?

I'm curious as to why you can get to the site while multiple others cannot
My ASUS was unlocked and rooted. Nothing else. I got a Huawei Mate 10 Pro on Tuesday. It is completely stock and will not connect to the omni download site.