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ahmed123

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This is correct. When you're in lsec mode, elable is not mounted. When you boot, elable is mounted to /oem and the "normal" oem folder is mounted to /fem (which I don't think is ever used)

If you want to replace a file on the teyes, you often need to modify and reflash the firmware file linked above.

Any idea how I can modify the firmware file above to update the bootanimation.zip in it before I flash it? I don't mind doing a fresh installation by flashing it again.

Or do you know if it's possible to enable adb on the Teyes and upgrade the bootanimation.zip over adb instead? A while back I modified the bootanimation on a nexus 7 tablet project using adb using the following steps

enable adb through developer options then. connect via adp to tablets IP
adb connect 192.x.x.x
adb root remount
adb remount
adb push D:\bootanimation.zip /system/media

Will this sort of method work for the Teyes?
 
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Gunde

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Anyone know if it's possible to pull the launcher from the latest update and install just that?
I don't wanna update the whole firmware, since everything works fine for me, but I'd love the new outside temperature feature and the fix to theme resetting.
 

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Any idea how I can modify the firmware file above to update the bootanimation.zip in it before I flash it? I don't mind doing a fresh installation by flashing it again.

Or do you know if it's possible to enable adb on the Teyes and upgrade the bootanimation.zip over adb instead? A while back I modified the bootanimation on a nexus 7 tablet project using adb using the following steps

enable adb through developer options then. connect via adp to tablets IP
adb connect 192.x.x.x
adb root remount
adb remount
adb push D:\bootanimation.zip /system/media

Will this sort of method work for the Teyes?
No.
the system partition is read-only and can't be mouted read-write and neither the /oem partition. Those partitions are now part of the "super partition" in Android 10+ in the dynamic partition scheme and can't be mounted read-wrtie.
Teyes even went one step further and also added the /oem partition now to the super-partition as dynamic partition.
That's why they now use the /elable partition.
I still think it is some overlay which allows you to write to /elable in normal conditions, which looks like it is /oem/. More OSes use this kind of overlays on partitions/folders.
 
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wilsoncps

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Hi my friend! Look this. The CC3 have command voice, If you says Mute (English), CC3 will mute. Conversation in the car, suddenly activate the command.

Path: App > Teyes Voice

Sorry my English
 

ahmed123

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I have the latest CarLink version on the January 2023 Teyes firmware. One thing that really bugs me is the size of the CarPlay icons. This is mainly because of the fact that the screen being 9" and the CarPlay layout being 4x2 grid. If this was 5x2 it will look so much better. I've used the 4x2 on a 7 inch screen which works very well but on a 9" the 4x2 just becomes too big.

Does anyone know if there is any way at all to get this to change to 5x2 layout? I've been seeing the Teyes CC3 Plus and by the looks of it on the CC3 plus they may have implemented a 5x2 layout.

Anyone know if there is a way to possibly modify the CarLink app to force it to run on 5x2?
 
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WindnWater

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The sound adjustment parameters are fou in these three tables
Thank you for your input.
I went through the menus
Under General - Sound Mixing Scale is maxed out at 20 and Boot volume is set to 10
Under Device - Power Conditioning does impact sound, but it is already maxed out at 60
Under Factory - Car Audio Type is set to Aux and Volume Balancing is maxed out at 10
With the exception of the Power Conditioning (which was at max) none of these seemed to vary my output sound.

I did notice that turning the Amp switch on and off didn't impact the sound, could the unit not be feeding my factory Amp?
 

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Thank you for your input.
I went through the menus
Under General - Sound Mixing Scale is maxed out at 20 and Boot volume is set to 10
Under Device - Power Conditioning does impact sound, but it is already maxed out at 60
Under Factory - Car Audio Type is set to Aux and Volume Balancing is maxed out at 10
With the exception of the Power Conditioning (which was at max) none of these seemed to vary my output sound.

I did notice that turning the Amp switch on and off didn't impact the sound, could the unit not be feeding my factory Amp?
Double check your canbus settings are right Sounds like it’s not set for your car and factory amp
 

WindnWater

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Thanks for your input, I have it set per the car type, my steering wheel controls work, and it shows when my doors or trunk are open. I will double check again.
 

aud_61

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Hello all gurus,
I'm new for Teyes and have couple questions;

1. I've just purchased Teyes/CC3 6G/128G for Toyota/Camry 2012, I'ld like to know how to change the display resolution from 1280 x 720 to 1080p x 720. if yes, how to change it?. Because when playing Google maps, in 1280 x 720 mode, font and other details are too small for me.

2. I've just update f/w to Version date :06.01.2023, and found something weird and quite unhappy with the new F/W, Can I roll f/w back o Version date :20.10.2022?

Thanks in advanced,
 

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Ok, so I just solved a massive headache with my teyes CC3 audio. And I will explain how and what. It concerns not working rear speakers. The worst part is that Teyes has no instructions AT ALL for the A3/A4 and I had to either figure this out on my own or with the help of people here on the forum or a bit of help of the teyes technical support which cost me about a week. However I want to enable people to have a smooth install with their A3 as the headunit itsself is fantastic and seriously worth the money.

To start first the (overall very few) issues I had with it and how to solve them (also link to a video I made about all but #1 at the end):

1. The frame of the A3 being to small

The actual frame fits exactly into the gap that the OEM radio you take out leaves behind. The issue is the tabs that are supposed to hold it in place. They are too widely moldel. What I mean is that they are molded in such a way that they are wider than is needed to make them fit. As such it is a PAIN to get them in.

A big tip I can give is the 3 first then 1 method. Get the bottom 2 in by pressing on them and then 1 of the 2 top ones. Or one side in and then pry the other 2 in. But the last one will be VERY hard to press in and I highly reccomend a interior trim removal kit tool to press it with to the inside. It will help give you leverage.

3 will click into place and the last one will be ehhhh kind of in there but if you press it in it should sit flush. I can say from experience you can expect that 1 of the 2 top tabs will slightly break away from the main mold but it should hold.

now big thing. DO NOT SCREW THE CC3 INTO THE FRAME. You can but removing it will be extremely hard as the frame will sit 100% flush with the dash and even getting a prying tool into 1 of the corners is next to impossible.
Ideally, get the frame in first, THEN do the wiring. and press the unit in afterwards. One thing that helps remove it is if you attach a sort of tab with tape or glue that will stick out (tape maybe is the easiest?) so you can use it as a pull cord and pull the unit out that way.

2. The unit not powering on at all (also explained in the video).

So this is one is a headbreaker and I almost thought I needed to ship the unit back.
I installed the unit and connected all the wires as they should be (based on other videos) but nothing after I powered on the car. Optical out on the back however did light up for a bit and then went blank.

The issue was as following. On the main cable harnass you get there are 2 boxes that lead to a. the CANBUS box connector and b. The main power/connector that goes into the G slot on the diagram.

The harnass for the A3 8p has 2!!!! boxes where it begins. A " quadlock" that will fit on the 8p" and a different one that will NOT fit.

Now it seems that from factor they connect the ACCESORY wire, which in my case was orange (look up the diagram supplied with the unit to see which cable it should be), to the connection box that will NOT FIT. So you have an empty box like connector that has many wires on of which was orange with a 2 pin connector. There is an IDENTICAL but loose wire with 2 pins on the quadlock connector. You need to UNPLUG the accesory cable from that wrong harnass and connect it to the wire that runs to the quadlock connector. That will make the unit turn on and work.

3. NON WORKING REAR SPEAKERS (NON BOSE)

So this has been posted many many times on many forums but there has been no consise solution explained so I will attempt my best.

If you get the CC3 unit and connect all the wires you need to choose 1 of 2 extra cables included. One has the mic connector, sim card tray, AMP-C wire and the AUX L and R connectors. the other is Some fo those but mostly RCA cables. But for both it works the same.

First of all, and this is NOT EXPLAINED AT ALL ANYWHERE, you need to take the AMP cable (blue and white) that comes off the quadlock AND ISO connector (they are joined together in the factory AND HAVE A SEETHROUGH BLUE CAP ON THE END) and connect it to the AMP-C cable (solid blue) coming off the second set of wires you plug in.

The issue is that you need to strip the isolation of both ends and then twist the exposed leads together to get the front amplifier to work at all...... then once that is done you use electrical tape to secure and insulate it. Now the front amp will work. The front speakers will with either the cables connected or not.

Now onto the rear speakers. Teyes has only now after I and other mailed them started selling an extra harness that you need to make the rear ones and sub work. The A3 and A4 are half amplified cars. This means that the headunit is supposed to also provide power and a turn on signal to the rear amp that is built into the speakers.

However, the unit does not have enough power to do that on its own. Its impedance is too low. You need the following harness it will not work without : https://teyes.eu/products/special-p...t?shpxid=020fa858-1cb9-4173-964f-bcd43d2a8198

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This harness goes in between the original quadlock of the car and the quadlock connector of the CC3 unit. it changes the impedance of the speakers and makes it so the unit has enough power to power the rear amp and speakers.

This harness is also sold by XTRONS under a different name. Look around and you will find it.

A tip I can give is that you may need to adjust the amount of impedance by using a small flathead screwdriver to turn the 4 knobs in the transparent cases (see pic below). You need to have it all plugged in and working to hear (you need to listen to the audio) but if they are set too much to 1 of the 2 sides (I think clockwise?) The harness wont work and the amps are silent. Completely the other way and the amps work and the sound is of good loudness.



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I hope this helps at least 1 person and saves them from the heart attacks and stress this caused me.

Here is a link to my video explaining this post:
 

WindnWater

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Hello, I have installed a new Teyes CC3, 360 unit in my 2005, Chrysler 300C. For the most part, everything works well. EXCEPT, the sound is way too low. When I first installed it, the sound volume seemed fine, however after a few days, it has dropped to this low level. It seems to do it with every source; radio, Amazon Music, Audible and music from a flash drive.

Any help? Thank you!
Thank you very much to everyone that offered suggestions on this issue. I finally found the culprit, and almost blew out my speakers. I had gone through every screen I could find under the Gear setup icon. However, while exploring the apps, I found on the third page, "Vehicle Settings". I opened it, and there was an option that said "The car volume:" between two slider arrows, was an 8, I slide it to its max, 38, and the aforementioned assault on my speakers.
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Thank you very much to everyone that offered suggestions on this issue. I finally found the culprit, and almost blew out my speakers. I had gone through every screen I could find under the Gear setup icon. However, while exploring the apps, I found on the third page, "Vehicle Settings". I opened it, and there was an option that said "The car volume:" between two slider arrows, was an 8, I slide it to its max, 38, and the aforementioned assault on my speakers. View attachment 5822167View attachment 5822169View attachment 5822171View attachment 5822173
Glad you found it. I did mention “vehicle settings” a few posts back to you.
 
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    @uremine12 I think your confusing the app and the recent app. If you sleep your head unit instead of a full off, it will retain a list of what was most recently opened. The app may or may not close, but when the unit wakes up from sleep it will still remember what it was doing before going to sleep. So, I think it's working normally and nothing to go crazy about :)
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    Not sure if you've sorted this yet, but I had the same GPS problem. I read somewhere that the 4G phone antenna can cause problems if too close to the GPS antenna. I moved mine as far away as possible and now GPS works fine.
    I did, bought a new gps receiver and now works great. Conclusion, gps that came with it was duff or just so cheap it wasn’t up to the job. Thanks for following up.
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    Hello!

    How do I rollback the firmware?
    Use link in my post above to download previous version. Use USB firmware upgrade method.
    Would be good if you shared reason as requested for not liking latest firmware. It is a sharing forum after all and your experience may help others.
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    Use link in my post above to download previous version. Use USB firmware upgrade method.
    Would be good if you shared reason as requested for not liking latest firmware. It is a sharing forum after all and your experience may help others.
    Hi WV1! Thank you for your answer.

    Actually, I was wanting to rollback to the 15.01.2022 firmware, because it was the most stable version that ran on my CC3 multimedia.

    The history was as follows. After I upgraded to the 20.10.2022 firmware, my problems started. Waze stopped working properly (couldn't select a destination when typing an address in the search bar), the multimedia would often restart by itself, and when it did, it would load the notification screen for I don't know why.

    Hoping to solve the problems, I waited for the next update. When the 06.01.2023 version came out, I installed it, but the problems got worse. In Waze, although they solved the previous problem, it started to close by itself. A new defect that appeared was that, randomly and without any action from me, the multimedia opens the top bar of notifications, screen brightness, opens applications (Waze is one of them) and crashes, i.e., it started to have a life of its own. Also, the previous problems (restarting multimedia by itself frequently and loading the notification window after a restart) are still there.

    For this reason, I believe that returning to the 15.01.2022 version should solve the problem. I even have this version already saved on my computer, but my question is whether I can do the installation in the standard way (saving the firmware on the USB stick, putting the multimedia and wait for the update) as if I were upgrading to a newer version, or if I have to follow some additional procedure (reset the multimídia or include some config.txt file on the stick, for example).

    I apologize for the length of the text, but it was the way I found to explain in detail what is motivating me. I hope you can help me. Thanks.
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    WV1: Thanks a lot... finally i was able to bring to life the unit using the new firmware the way it was explained in the video. But, still have the issue with the Air Condintioner Unit.... It keeps on and off ramdomly , even when it is turn off, it turns on by itself... that really worries me alot
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    @uremine12 I think your confusing the app and the recent app. If you sleep your head unit instead of a full off, it will retain a list of what was most recently opened. The app may or may not close, but when the unit wakes up from sleep it will still remember what it was doing before going to sleep. So, I think it's working normally and nothing to go crazy about :)
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    Teyes announced another CC3 update for April 2021, here is the translated changelog.



    The following important updates are expected to be released for the CC3 software at the end of April.
    The new version will add the following features:

    1.Added Cam REC software. With this application, you can record from a rear view camera. The recording files are saved to a flash card.

    2.Added TEYES YAHU, the world's first 3D music player for the automotive industry (due to technical complexity, work may not be completed in April).

    3.In the device settings, a function has been added to change the screen brightness depending on the time of sunrise and sunset.

    4.The system version has been updated. Fixed the issue of crashing the Google Play app in some areas.

    5.Added setting for the sensitivity level of voice commands. If you feel that certain keywords easily trigger voice commands, you can lower the sensitivity level. In addition to Russian and English, a voice control function has been added for 7 countries.

    6.Added CAR LINK software which supports Android Auto via wired connection and Car Play via wired and wireless connection. Please note that CARPLAY only supports this feature on CC3 devices released in 2021. Android Auto has no limits. For CARPLAY wired connection, you must use the original iPhone USB cable. When using CARPLAY wirelessly, make sure the mobile phone is connected via Bluetooth.

    7.Updated EQ software and added a phase switch. The volume and sound effects of the subwoofer change according to the volume of the head unit.

    8.Added a new layout for the main screen, as well as automatic switching between day and night modes. From the home screen, you can directly speed dial, view driving data, compass and GPS information. The 4 main music players can be switched with one key. Redesigned and increased image size when viewed in picture-in-picture mode.

    9Optimized software for making Bluetooth phone calls. Added a choice of avatars in favorite contacts. Opened data synchronization with the main interface.

    10.Added TEYES RADIO and private internet station. Musical compositions can be downloaded and shared through the site mp3.teyes.ru

    11.Steering Wheel Key Customization Tutorial has been added for multiple languages.

    12.Added automatic OTA update function. In the future, we will provide 2 update methods: manual download update and automatic update.

    13.Added multi-finger touch control function. To find out how to use this feature, please see the personal settings section.

    14.Added the ability to slide the application menu to the right side of the screen. Swiping from below returns to the previous level. The function is supported no matter which interface you are in!
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    Hi. earlier you said taht you dont't recommend buying Teyes for people outside Russia and now, that Teyes focuses on European region. What about other countries from Europe other than Russia? I'm from Poland and I own Ford Focus mk 3 (2011-1015)
    I am in France, and my CC3 gives me complete satisfaction on my Ford Focus 2. I do not see what the restrictions would be due to the development by the Russians
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    TEYES has released a new flagship, the CC3 with the following specifications.
    UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512) SOC
    8 core 12 nm big.LITTLE with 2 A75 and 6 A55 cores.
    Up to 6 GB memory and 128 GB of storage.
    9 and 10.1 inch 1280 x 720 QLED +2.5D screen.
    Phillips NXP TEF6686 FM radio.
    ST TDA 7851L amplifier.
    3 x USB 2.0 ports.
    Android 10.
    2 DSP ADAU1701 + Rohm32107 27 EQ.
    Optical + Coaxial output.
    External mic. in.
    2.4 and 5 GHz wifi.
    Full hd rear view camera.
    Built in 4G modem.
    Gyroscope.
    Navigation receives GPS,GLONASS and BEIDOU satellites.
    A metal back case with a fan for the SOC.
    Very shallow which is perfect for cars with undeep dashboards.
    Multiple oem panels and canbus adapters available for different car brands and models.

    Instructions : https://cc3.teyes.ru/en/index.html

    Video's of Teyes Malaysia for settings CC3 in English : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0R6aqLJ7mIoEWfql87jnnw/videos

    Factory password : 168
    Developer acces : 7788

    Teyes is quite popular in Russia and Malaysia .

    Here is a short review of a Russian guy from Sound Life with the unboxing...


    https://de.aliexpress.com/store/1980682?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.34e45016mWXdkH

    https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=Teyes+CC3

    Notice that there is also a CC2 plus and a Spro plus, that have more or less the same specifications.
    The Teyes CC2 plus and Spro plus, does not have the extra ADAU1701 DSP and no gyroscope..
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    Check if the OBD has good connection with the car socket. Pull it out and put it in again. Scan for Bluetooth devices and you must find it there. Also check the pins on the OBD adapter and the car socket, to see if there are any bent pins that don't connect properly. Also I think I heard somewhere that it's good to connect the OBD before you start the engine.
    Thank you for the advice. I did all of the above, but unfortunately with the same result as before.
    The CC3 sees the OBD2 adapter in the Bluetooth menu, but after some time attempting to connect I get a "Connected Unsuccessfully" message ( or at least that is what I believe it says, because the message is cut off )
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    Also I would like to do a follow up regarding the new firmware. I can confirm that with it the device remains in sleep while the ignition of the car is off, even after 1h and 45min once the ignition was turned on the device woke up instantly. Where as before with the original firmware, after about 5min the device would do a clean / full boot.

    And for those looking to get Google assistant working a possible workaround would be to trigger the assistant via one of your steering wheel buttons.
    #1 go to Settings / General
    #2 Set the Google Assistant as the Navi App option
    #3 Go to Settings / Device / Steering Wheel Setting
    #4 Map one of your steering wheel buttons to launch the Navi app.

    Now just before anyone get way too excited, this is not a perfect solution.
    While I'm able to do things like opening apps ( YouTube, waze, 360 panorama app ) asking for direction via google maps, playing specific Playlist via Spotify. I discovered that it's not possible to make or receive phone calls via the assistant, and most likely there are other things that I did not test or discovered.
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    Upcomming CC3 update screenshots:

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