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noelhibbard

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I try to install new car play app but my cc3 say that “this unit doesn’t support CarPlay”
Why??? I don’t understand
Only CC3's made after December have the chip needed for CarPlay. If you search this thread for "CarPlay" you will see how someone added this chip on their own for $5 and got CarPlay working:
 

noelhibbard

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The fact that you are asking makes me want to say yes. Here is a picture of the chip. If you are capable of soldering small components like that then go for it.

cc2p_CP.png
 
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1. Whait, so when buttons works in cc3 by default after connecting to canbus - they can't be remapped in simple way to individual settings?? Its huge limitation... i have 8 buttons and one knob by my steering wheel, by default 5 of them is usefull (vol+, vol-, mute, prev, next song [when using radio app that two not switching stations, but... switching frequency by Hz step :/ ]), others function is completly useless (one button switching in a circle by: nav, radio, video, something else that i dont remember now - i dont know who use this in real life :/ )... Maybe using Automate Llama app or similar i be able to remap this, I have to try, but this is insane that it must be done with custom app, not nativly :/...

2. Ok, but what about "Car information" app? Is it shoud works on every car when canbus works properly? And climate control widget should works on every "new" car?
1. My understanding is that, generally, if you are using a canbus then you can't remap the keys. I've read on 4pda that some have depinned the key1/key2 from the canbus module and connected the key1/key2 wires on the head unit directly to the appropriate wires on the car harness/wiring.

I have a 2012 Kia Sorento. It is a model with only a few functions that go through Canbus. When I plugged in the canbus, it did not work properly. I decided to go without the canbus module. All seems to be working properly, SWC, etc. What functions do you need the canbus module for? Are you sure you need it? You can select NULL as the canbus module and then, I believe NULL, NULL, NULL. You can see where to select NULL in this video at about 20 seconds in:


If your car requires canbus for the head unit to function properly, then you can try selecting different similar car models to see if other selections work better.

2. I believe that the Car Information app only works if the canbus module is working properly. If the canbus module code is not complete or accurate, then the Car Information app may not display any info or may not display correct info. Climate control widget may not work properly on all cars. My car has separate climate controls and does not go through canbus. Even if it did, I can control the climate control directly through the standard car controls.
 

noelhibbard

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Good find. It's an apple authentication chip.

Still, those wanting carplay or Android Auto, these are a unreliable choice.
It seems to take a while to connect sometimes but once connected it’s been fairly reliable for me so far. Call quality is complete garbage in CarPlay though unless you do FaceTime Audio. But this seems to be a common issue even with OEM CarPlay setups.
 
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1. My understanding is that, generally, if you are using a canbus then you can't remap the keys. I've read on 4pda that some have depinned the key1/key2 from the canbus module and connected the key1/key2 wires on the head unit directly to the appropriate wires on the car harness/wiring.
I would really like to see that post.
I did exactly the same on my Sofia and PX5s (both) and it simply did not work (and I'm not sure but I believe bambapin did the same on his sc9853i before switching to another method, as it didn't work for him either). That's why I contacted Joying and asked them. And that's when they sent me the pictures of the PX5 board and told me what to change in the soldering (and that took quite some back&forth emailing).

I do not have a uis7862, but an sc9853i which is still as I described it with the key1/key2 versus CANbus soldering. I verified that with Joying before getting my sc9853i model. That's why I choose the universal model.

Maybe FYT has changed it on the latest uis7862 motherboards. That would be great.

EDIT: I would really like to get a link to that 4pda post and read how they did it. I also use 4pda a lot (via translation) but simply can't find it.
CAN-bus signals are binary values. key1/key2 values are simple resistance values. They are by definition not compatible or interchangeable.
so how? :unsure::unsure:
 
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mastrv

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I went back and re-read the threads that came up when I searched in 4pda for key1. The ones talking about doing what I suggested did not have specific instructions. Some referred to whether the data from the SWC was analog or digital. I think that means whether the steering wheel controls are resistive or go through the canbus.

I checked the harness with the Canbus that came with my unit. It did not have specific wires to connect to key1 and/or key2 on the harness with the canbus module. I think that means it depends on what your car wiring is like.

For my Kia Sorento 2012, the buttons are resistive as seen in this snippet from the schematic:

Kia Sorento 2012 SWC.png


It's clear that the buttons have resistors. The zig-zag lines are representations for resistors. Also, the Audio Remocon and Remocon Ground are the two wires from the car harness that connect to key1 and key2 on the head unit.

So, in the end, it most likely depends on the car whether it is possible or not. If I had a later model Sorento, it may have not been possible to directly connect key1 and key2 and may have had to go through the canbus module. Luckily, I guess, my 2012 Sorento is just before a lot more things started to go through canbus and I don't really require the canbus module.

EDIT: Another suggestion one user had on 4pda is to buy one of those add on button modules and connect those directly to key1 and key2. Perhaps that makes those new buttons also programmable through the steering control apk.

EDIT EDIT: @surfer63 You were right!!!
 
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Hello. I want to buy a Teyes CC3 for my rav4 hybrid 2016. Please tell me how it works with the car? The seller also informed me that cc3 may not work for my hybrid.
 
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I cam across this which looks like it offers a lot of customization of the launcher but unfortunately it's not free and I'm unable to find a way to pay for it from the United States. I have a Russian friend with family still in Russia, eventually I will see if she can help me out.

You have a CC3. This launcher pack is for CC2 and SPRO, both sc9853i. Those launchers come in "CC3 style". You should first check with the UDT team if these Launchers work on your CC3, a uis7862
 
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hello.For a few days, TPMS has been providing incorrect information: A sensor always displays the same pressure, and 7 ° C temperature, (it is over 20 ° C). If I remove the battery from the sensor, even after learning, it is still present! I also notice that two sensors now have the same ID. Are you aware of this problem?
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    Hi. earlier you said taht you dont't recommend buying Teyes for people outside Russia and now, that Teyes focuses on European region. What about other countries from Europe other than Russia? I'm from Poland and I own Ford Focus mk 3 (2011-1015)
    I am in France, and my CC3 gives me complete satisfaction on my Ford Focus 2. I do not see what the restrictions would be due to the development by the Russians
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    So what apps do you primary use?

    Thanks

    Radio of course, Google Maps or sometimes Waze, and Spotify.
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    Thanks surfer63! Now it starts making sense :)

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    Thanks!

    You asked two questions; Yes and no.

    Surfer63 is likely to give great advice. He might not suggest a "Teyes" which is actually a FYT unit and predominantly Russian market focused RESELLER / customized with software gimmicks.

    I'd suggest taking the time to read through the forums and know what it is you want to buy. If you take away anything from my post, it is to discard the concept of "brands" in the world of Chinese origin Android OS based head units.
    If you have any experience with Chinese origin Android "TV boxes" this might help you understand.

    My advice, forget the reseller "Teyes" and look to find a FYT based unit that meets your needs.

    Note that although I come from extensive MTCD/E/P experience, I have instead recently purchased two FYT units. I don't think I would buy another MTCx unit at this time.
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    Teyes announced another CC3 update for April 2021, here is the translated changelog.



    The following important updates are expected to be released for the CC3 software at the end of April.
    The new version will add the following features:

    1.Added Cam REC software. With this application, you can record from a rear view camera. The recording files are saved to a flash card.

    2.Added TEYES YAHU, the world's first 3D music player for the automotive industry (due to technical complexity, work may not be completed in April).

    3.In the device settings, a function has been added to change the screen brightness depending on the time of sunrise and sunset.

    4.The system version has been updated. Fixed the issue of crashing the Google Play app in some areas.

    5.Added setting for the sensitivity level of voice commands. If you feel that certain keywords easily trigger voice commands, you can lower the sensitivity level. In addition to Russian and English, a voice control function has been added for 7 countries.

    6.Added CAR LINK software which supports Android Auto via wired connection and Car Play via wired and wireless connection. Please note that CARPLAY only supports this feature on CC3 devices released in 2021. Android Auto has no limits. For CARPLAY wired connection, you must use the original iPhone USB cable. When using CARPLAY wirelessly, make sure the mobile phone is connected via Bluetooth.

    7.Updated EQ software and added a phase switch. The volume and sound effects of the subwoofer change according to the volume of the head unit.

    8.Added a new layout for the main screen, as well as automatic switching between day and night modes. From the home screen, you can directly speed dial, view driving data, compass and GPS information. The 4 main music players can be switched with one key. Redesigned and increased image size when viewed in picture-in-picture mode.

    9Optimized software for making Bluetooth phone calls. Added a choice of avatars in favorite contacts. Opened data synchronization with the main interface.

    10.Added TEYES RADIO and private internet station. Musical compositions can be downloaded and shared through the site mp3.teyes.ru

    11.Steering Wheel Key Customization Tutorial has been added for multiple languages.

    12.Added automatic OTA update function. In the future, we will provide 2 update methods: manual download update and automatic update.

    13.Added multi-finger touch control function. To find out how to use this feature, please see the personal settings section.

    14.Added the ability to slide the application menu to the right side of the screen. Swiping from below returns to the previous level. The function is supported no matter which interface you are in!
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