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startas

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Is there a built in way to fully restart teyes device ? When you turn off the car, teyes tablet just goes to sleep... And for it to detect sim card, you need to completely restart device, and i havent found any natural way to restart it... Of course, i downloaded app from play store to restart android devices, but i wonder if there is a way to do it without tricks. Holding or pressing power button on the front of teyes screen makes it go to sleep and wake up, it doesnt restart.
 

Bob_Sanders

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My car doesnt have CAN, so maybe it gets speed from gps. Where do you have glued all the antenas (gps, wifi, 4g) ? I have glued all antenas right under front car panel. I will add sim card for 4g mobile internet later, maybe that will increase speed accuracy in car widget.
You should really check your car speedometer first. With 3 or more satellites being tracked, GPS speed is almost always the more accurate of the two speeds.
 

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You should really check your car speedometer first. With 3 or more satellites being tracked, GPS speed is almost always the more accurate of the two speeds.
Indeed. GPS is more accurate. That has to do with the law worldwide. It is forbidden by law in every country of the world that the speedometer displays a too low speed. That might lead to people speeding because their speedometer "tells" them they drive the correct speed.
That given with the fact that most models can be boughtr with slightly different tyres makes that the car producer stays on the safe side and makes that the speedometer always displays slightly too high. The more expensive the car, the more accurate the speedometer (mostly, not always).
 
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startas

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Indeed. GPS is more accurate. That has to do with the law worldwide. It is forbidden by law in every country of the world that the speedometer displays a too low speed. That might lead to people speeding because their speedometer "tells" them they drive the correct speed.
That given with the fact that most models can be boughtr with slightly different tyres makes that the car producer stays on the safe side and makes that the speedometer always displays slightly too high. The more expensive the car, the more accurate the speedometer (mostly, not always).

Well, given how others are driving near speed radars, im pretty sure that car speedometer is correct, GPS shown speed (on phones, tablets, or car integrated gps) was always a bit off in all cars as i remember.

Edit: driving past speed radars that show you your speed also shows the same speed as in car speedometer.
 
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startas

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Hi everyone, I have Teyes CC3 on my Hyundai Santafe. I got a problem with the power and car battery. My Teyes CC3 still keeps using power from car battery even after I turn off my car. I hear the "heartbeat" sounds from speaker after my car totally off. Don't know what wrong with my installation. My car battery lost 100% power just 2 days. I must recharge it then. Please see my video to hear the sound. Thank you.

Yes, i read that teyes cc3 only goes to sleep at first when you turn off the car, and then after 3 days it actually shuts down. Maybe try factory resetting, sounds like either bug in teyes, or some faulty wiring in a car. It only makes speakers explode when it turns them on, which is a few times from a cold boot. If that wont help, adding a on/off switch on a teyes power cable and then installing it in a convenient location might be the only option.
 

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Well, given how others are driving near speed radars, im pretty sure that car speedometer is correct, GPS shown speed (on phones, tablets, or car integrated gps) was always a bit off in all cars as i remember.

Edit: driving past speed radars that show you your speed also shows the same speed as in car speedometer.
Interesting... then you're right it must be the Teyes.
It seems the more I learn and read about this Teyes... the less I like.
 

mastrv

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This is not only for TEyes, as surfer63 said, GPS is more accurate and speedometers in cars less so. He didn't mention any particular brand. GPS is more accurate since you can take co-ordinates as the car moves and determine the speed from those co-ordinates. Nothing magical about it.
 

startas

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This is not only for TEyes, as surfer63 said, GPS is more accurate and speedometers in cars less so. He didn't mention any particular brand. GPS is more accurate since you can take co-ordinates as the car moves and determine the speed from those co-ordinates. Nothing magical about it.


Yes, it has nothing to do with teyes, its just GPS in general. Dont know which one is more accurate, but i have never seen in my life a car speedometer that matches speed shown by gps program, no matter where that gps is - teyes, built in car gps, phone, dedicated gps device and so on, same on old cars, new cars, modern cars and so on.

Plus i wonder how gps can show accurate speed when driving down the hill.
 

mastrv

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When going down the hill, it's probably off, but the more distance you drive, the more accurate it becomes...more or less :) I guess that's not quite the definition of "accurate"...more or less :)

I mean, you can't always be driving down a hill!
 

startas

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When going down the hill, it's probably off, but the more distance you drive, the more accurate it becomes...more or less :) I guess that's not quite the definition of "accurate"...more or less :)

I mean, you can't always be driving down a hill!

Sure, but you arent always driving on perfectly horizontal roads without turns either, especially not in my country. Cause GPS doesnt get your height, some other sensors might, but i doubt teyes has any of those.

Also, GPS shows speed in the moment, so average speed doesnt matter and cant be used, at least not over longer periods of time than 1 second.

Imagine driving 45 degrees down the hill (if 90 degrees is straight down), then from a GPS perspective, you would be driving only at 50% of your real speed (simple linear equation), so trusting gps readings could get you lose your drivers licence for few years and a big fine, if you would trust gps speed in such situation and cps/speed radar would meassure your speed.

So i wonder if there are any techniques (or maybe teyes actually has some sensors) that could be used to get your speed in 3D space. Because if not, then i will not trust GPS speed ever, cause lots/most of the time in my country you are driving at least from 1 to few percent down the hill/up the hill, which, if you calculate, makes up for that 2-10 km/h speed difference between car speedometer and gps/app readings.
 

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Sure, but you arent always driving on perfectly horizontal roads without turns either, especially not in my country. Cause GPS doesnt get your height, some other sensors might, but i doubt teyes has any of those.

Also, GPS shows speed in the moment, so average speed doesnt matter and cant be used, at least not over longer periods of time than 1 second.

Imagine driving 45 degrees down the hill (if 90 degrees is straight down), then from a GPS perspective, you would be driving only at 50% of your real speed (simple linear equation), so trusting gps readings could get you lose your drivers licence for few years and a big fine, if you would trust gps speed in such situation and cps/speed radar would meassure your speed.

So i wonder if there are any techniques (or maybe teyes actually has some sensors) that could be used to get your speed in 3D space. Because if not, then i will not trust GPS speed ever, cause lots/most of the time in my country you are driving at least from 1 to few percent down the hill/up the hill, which, if you calculate, makes up for that 2-10 km/h speed difference between car speedometer and gps/app readings.
GPS speed is calculated in 3d space. if you have more than 4 satellites (minimal lock) then your height (above\below sea level) is also known and is being calculated.

there is more info here: https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/
 
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Is there a built in way to fully restart teyes device ? When you turn off the car, teyes tablet just goes to sleep... And for it to detect sim card, you need to completely restart device, and i havent found any natural way to restart it... Of course, i downloaded app from play store to restart android devices, but i wonder if there is a way to do it without tricks. Holding or pressing power button on the front of teyes screen makes it go to sleep and wake up, it doesnt restart.
hi,

try to swipe down from top of the screen, then swipe down again(to open the notification window) and you will have a "reboot" button on the right.

confirm in the popup windows - and the unit will fully reboot.

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Bob_Sanders

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Yes, it has nothing to do with teyes, its just GPS in general. Dont know which one is more accurate, but i have never seen in my life a car speedometer that matches speed shown by gps program, no matter where that gps is - teyes, built in car gps, phone, dedicated gps device and so on, same on old cars, new cars, modern cars and so on.

Plus i wonder how gps can show accurate speed when driving down the hill.
Aside from the slight lag in the average gps system, the difference between my gps and jeep speedometer is 0. In other words the speed matches perfectly (or at least less than 1 km/h difference)

A hill is not a problem with a GPS system. There are multiple satellites locked on to you so you are covered from different angles ... which is why it's most accurate. It is not bothered by things like that.
 

Bob_Sanders

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When going down the hill, it's probably off, but the more distance you drive, the more accurate it becomes...more or less :) I guess that's not quite the definition of "accurate"...more or less :)

I mean, you can't always be driving down a hill!
No it's not.
A gps system is 3 dimensional. Given the fact that a gps sytem uses more than one satellite, it can work accurately from all different angles.
 

Bob_Sanders

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This is not only for TEyes, as surfer63 said, GPS is more accurate and speedometers in cars less so. He didn't mention any particular brand. GPS is more accurate since you can take co-ordinates as the car moves and determine the speed from those co-ordinates. Nothing magical about it.
Normally I would agree, but the poster is saying this:
Well, given how others are driving near speed radars, im pretty sure that car speedometer is correct, GPS shown speed (on phones, tablets, or car integrated gps) was always a bit off in all cars as i remember.

Edit: driving past speed radars that show you your speed also shows the same speed as in car speedometer.
If the poster's car is reading the same as what the sign is saying (we have those radar posting signs here too) and gps systems are accurate.... then it must be the Teyes.
 

lukif90

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Hi,
I installed CC3 in my opel insignia a few days ago and everything looks ok but not perfect.
First question to other owners, where can I see the outside temperature measured by car (sensor is under right mirror)? I saw somewhere, probably for other head unit or other car manufacture that "Car info" app shows basic information like the temperature, information about seat belts, hand brake, fuel level and consumption etc. In my case, I have there only settings that were available in oryginal radio (navi 900) like setting which doors should be unlocked at opening, some AC settings, some comfort settings etc. but there is no data like I mentioned.
Any idea how can I see temperature from car build in sensor?

Second thing, do you hear some noise even when no music or radio is playing? I suspect that this is something called ground loop noise or something like this but I'm wondering if all android head units have it or it's only for me (maybe I connected something wrong or missed some groud cable...). For oryginal Opel Navi 900 I had no such problem. Of course when I'm driving with the volume at the normal level then it's not a problem.
Next minor issue is, when I listen to FM radio and I get notification from google maps then there is some "click/bang" sound before and after notification.
I didn't hear this "bang sound" when all music playes from a digital source - I mean online radio or spotify mixed with google maps notifications... So here I think that when analog FM radio is mixed or swiched to digital notification sound then something is wrong.

And the last thing, CC3 supports RDS in FM radio (however the font size of RDS program station name and radio text is super small and I hope they will fix the desing in the future). Anyway, there is also AF function that should find the same radio station on a different frequency when the current signal is weak. I noticed that it doesn't work correctly... When the signal is weak then radio tries to find other frequency but it ends up with jumping from the current station to some others. I know that oryginal car head units usually have 2 tuners (main that is used for playing the radio and second one that constantly scans frequencies to have the list of available stations in current location).
Do you have similar problem?
 
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mastrv

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@lukif90 For the second thing, the noise when no music or radio is playing...you should check your volume settings. If you go into settings, I believe there is a master volume level and then another setting for relative volumes. If these are set too high, they amplify everything including background noises and clicks. They should be set to a level so that your volume controls are usually set at middle levels.

This may not be your scenario, but worth looking at. If you're not sure where the settings are, just look around your settings and you should find them.
 

Bob_Sanders

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Hi,
I installed CC3 in my opel insignia a few days ago and everything looks ok but not perfect.
First question to other owners, where can I see the outside temperature measured by car (sensor is under right mirror)? I saw somewhere, probably for other head unit or other car manufacture that "Car info" app shows basic information like the temperature, information about seat belts, hand brake, fuel level and consumption etc. In my case, I have there only settings that were available in oryginal radio (navi 900) like setting which doors should be unlocked at opening, some AC settings, some comfort settings etc. but there is no data like I mentioned.
Any idea how can I see temperature from car build in sensor?
I use Torque pro to display the automotive info:

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