The biggest failure of WP7 (I'm a fan, not a bash thread)

[Thresher]

I love WP7, my Focus, and life. Why not?

The one thing I just do not understand is the decision or lack of decision to utilize a dock port system. It's is maddening to have to plug in mUSB instead of clicking in and moving along.

From a Dev. standpoint, is this because they have to allow so many different manufacturers to make devices? Why not make it part of their 'spec.'

No alarm clocks, no cool docks for my stereo, no cool docks for my car, no cool dock for the back of headrests in my car, wth.

It's not a game stopper for me but it really makes me think that being a iClone is just easier.

Oh well I guess...

Thanks for listening XDA forum bot!

 

[derausgewanderte]

I love WP7, my Focus, and life. Why not?
No alarm clocks, no cool docks for my stereo, no cool docks for my car, no cool dock for the back of headrests in my car, wth.
Thanks for listening XDA forum bot!

I hear you. I love the dock for my ZuneHD which allows me to use it as anything you list. I was a little surprised to see that my WP7 didn't have a dock port at all.

maybe the next version

 

[Thresher]

I never handled a Zune so I had no idea it had a dock, but now I am even more shocked. I mean does anyone at MS ever walk into Costco and see all the accessories flying off the shevles for iphone...haha, so lame. I can only laugh.

I will give a big middle finger to Samsung for it's top mUSB design too, way to go Samsung!

I just noticed a few new phones with the mUSB on the side...real nice.

lol It's so lame that it's funny!

 

[FiyaFleye]

to be honest, miniusb cables are everywhere. Everybody owns one, and so many devices on the market use them. I charge my DS, my phone, and my bluetooth all with the same adapter... I would have been pissed had I been required to buy a special cable for work, my car, and my home. I have chargers in like 7 different locations now, and when I don't, the person next to me has a miniusb.

 

[arkavat]

Docks can work fine with mini USB. However, as the OP stated, the position of the port is not fixed and hence there can be no standardized dock. nevertheless, if OS supports it, OEMs will jump in and release docks. just like some docks are available for android.
As of present, the OS doesnot offer any special behavior if dock is connected. Nevertheless, I hope mango brings in API's to allow for softwares to be triggered on USB connections, just like on android. Alarm clocks, car dock apps will follow.

 

[FiyaFleye]

But the android docks aren't universal, which is what I think he's referring to... Some connect at the bottom, some at the top, others on the side... I see this coming eventually though to WP7... But as far as a standardized Apple style dock, it would be a pain in the ass and I wouldn't want it to be honest.

 

[Thresher]

But the android docks aren't universal, which is what I think he's referring to... Some connect at the bottom, some at the top, others on the side... I see this coming eventually though to WP7... But as far as a standardized Apple style dock, it would be a pain in the ass and I wouldn't want it to be honest.

Good points Fiya. Thankfully for you, it goes how you desire.

Just curious, there aren't any ipod accessories that you would like to just click into?

Docking into my car requires two hands and two cables, very lame and much slower than my other car and wife's iphone, one click, one hand and it starts playing. Plug into microUSB with the cable and the phone simply charges, you still need to tap the music player, etc.

Alarm clocks, stereo docks and car docks are easily what I want most as well as those boomboxes with docks, so nice...not to mention how many parties you go to with ipod docks all around...

I will tell you though, it's microUSB and not mini, making it a different cable than BB, HTC and others. The cables can be bought in bulk, very cheaply as can the ipod USB cables, either way a change was required and new cables needed to be purchased.

There is no way they could have forced the manufacturers to agree on a port and the manufacturers would have issues fitting the port into their designs so maybe you are right...someday...

 

[foxbat121]

I never handled a Zune so I had no idea it had a dock, but now I am even more shocked. I mean does anyone at MS ever walk into Costco and see all the accessories flying off the shevles for iphone...haha, so lame. I can only laugh.

I have a ZuneHD. Let me tell you that the reason no manufacturer is interested in a docking system is that NO retailers want to stock any dock other than iPhon/iPod docks. When was the last time you see a Zune dock being sold in Costco? Never. And Zune had this docking system for as long as there is Zune. The eco-system is just not there for anything non-iPod.

 

[FiyaFleye]

Then you lose the universal aspect of the entire world using mini USB, but a phone specific dock would be nice.. I just wouldn't want something other than a mini USB

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[foxbat121]

miniUSB ports are dead. All the new phones and devices use microUSB ports. EU already mandated all future cell phones must use microUSB port as charge port.

 

[DatDereX1]

good point. micro USB port should be at the bottom as part of the chassis requirement. Maybe they will require that in the future.

 

[FiyaFleye]

Wow, this whole time I was typing mini, I definitely meant micro -_-

 

[DavidinCT]

How about something like this...if it was possable..

http://cgi.ebay.com/White-Mini-USB-Adapter-iPod-HTC-7-Trophy-/120658457225

An adapter that will convert a miniUSB to iPod/iPhone... I'm assuming it would work with iPhone docks, etc to play back music, just need to create something to hold the adapter/phone and you just opened the door to 2 million different docs and what ever that will work with the iPhone...

If it will work it would be cool...

discussed here

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4683282&postcount=3

Edit: There is a lot of info out there about this.....google "HTC to iPod adapter"

I might do this when Vzw gets a WP7 model....(only looking at a HTC model tho)

good point. micro USB port should be at the bottom as part of the chassis requirement. Maybe they will require that in the future.

Yea, like 1 inch form the left or right side...so every device will work based on putting it in and adjusting a bracket...