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example508

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S6 or LG G4?

I'm trying to decide between the LG G4 and the Galaxy S6.

Here's my understanding of the two, please let me know if I have anything wrong or if you can help me choose.


  1. I've already decided that the edge makes it too uncomfortable to hold and it doesn't add that much for the extra money.
  2. I consider the screens practically equal although the S6 is better if I had to choose because of the better brightness range.
  3. I like the removable back of the G4 and the leather backs look way better to the reportedly slippery Samsung alternative.
  4. I'm not a hardcore photographer so the cameras are very similar (extremely good on both sides). Reviews I've read say that the S6's front facing camera has a wider lens and better color spectrum, so that wins.
  5. My main concern is getting root/unlocked bootloader. I've only ever had root because I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S5 Active and so I'm interested in a phone which will have tinkering options. The Galaxy S6 already has root as I understand, but not an unlocked bootloader. I really dislike all of the touchwiz based roms of the Galaxy S5 Active that I have, and things like Cyanogenmod look really appealing. The LG G3 got cyanogenmod, and since the LG G4 is new, I expect it to get root and unlocked bootloader soon. (Is this a fair assumption?) My main problem is that I need to buy it on AT&T, who lock the bootloaders of many phones. Will they lock the bootloader on this phone permanently as well?

Thanks for any help!
 

omersak

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Oct 15, 2010
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I'm trying to decide between the LG G4 and the Galaxy S6.

Here's my understanding of the two, please let me know if I have anything wrong or if you can help me choose.


  1. I've already decided that the edge makes it too uncomfortable to hold and it doesn't add that much for the extra money.
  2. I consider the screens practically equal although the S6 is better if I had to choose because of the better brightness range.
  3. I like the removable back of the G4 and the leather backs look way better to the reportedly slippery Samsung alternative.
  4. I'm not a hardcore photographer so the cameras are very similar (extremely good on both sides). Reviews I've read say that the S6's front facing camera has a wider lens and better color spectrum, so that wins.
  5. My main concern is getting root/unlocked bootloader. I've only ever had root because I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S5 Active and so I'm interested in a phone which will have tinkering options. The Galaxy S6 already has root as I understand, but not an unlocked bootloader. I really dislike all of the touchwiz based roms of the Galaxy S5 Active that I have, and things like Cyanogenmod look really appealing. The LG G3 got cyanogenmod, and since the LG G4 is new, I expect it to get root and unlocked bootloader soon. (Is this a fair assumption?) My main problem is that I need to buy it on AT&T, who lock the bootloaders of many phones. Will they lock the bootloader on this phone permanently as well?

Thanks for any help!
1. I came to the same conclusion and chose the S6 over the edge when the time came
2. I loved that the S6 has diffrent screen modes for adjusing the color saturation - but I prefer the screen on the G4 for its size and cooler color temperature. Has to be noted that the S6 screen has much better viewing angles.
3. I didn't find the S6 slippery because of the flattened sides and IMO it felt much better in the hand than the G4. Also, it's flat from behind and doesn't wobble on a flat surface like the G4. I'd take removable back/micro sd/replaceable battery over all of those points, though.
4. Still cameras are indeed very similar. In my findings, the G4 is a bit better in very low-light scenarios. The S6 has noticeably better video quality, along with better audio capture and 60fps
5. If this point is your MAIN concern then I'd either wait and see how far it'll go on both phones, or just get a Nexus 6 and flash the universe. If and when CM does come out for either device, it'll take some time for it to be stable enough for daily use.
 

moobieboobie

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Apr 30, 2011
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Hey guys, is there a way to disable the voice command prompt when i plug in a headphones? I just want to be able to plug them in, not have any prompts, and be on my merry way.
 

KingFatty

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Feb 4, 2009
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Hey guys, is there a way to disable the voice command prompt when i plug in a headphones? I just want to be able to plug them in, not have any prompts, and be on my merry way.

I also am interested in disabling that. My headphones don't even have a mic, but occasionally the G4 will mis-identify my regular headphones as a full headset/mic when I plug them into the phone, and then bring up the voice prompt. Really annoying!

There has to be a way to turn off the voice prompt that asks for voice input. No idea why they thought it was a good idea to prompt for voice input every time you plug in your headset/mic???
 

SniperDroid

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Jul 12, 2010
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I also am interested in disabling that. My headphones don't even have a mic, but occasionally the G4 will mis-identify my regular headphones as a full headset/mic when I plug them into the phone, and then bring up the voice prompt. Really annoying!

There has to be a way to turn off the voice prompt that asks for voice input. No idea why they thought it was a good idea to prompt for voice input every time you plug in your headset/mic???

Strange, mine doesn't prompt anything when I plug in a headset. It just shows the headset icon in the status bar. :confused:
 

XxD34THxX

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Nov 3, 2014
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Sooooooo....... No root that doesn't have a high chance of bricking I see... This will be my next phone if it gets root + bl workaround... Hope the device is good, the only complaint I have heard is that it likes to overheat. Can someone else comment on that?
 

rfarrah

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May 30, 2008
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Sooooooo....... No root that doesn't have a high chance of bricking I see... This will be my next phone if it gets root + bl workaround... Hope the device is good, the only complaint I have heard is that it likes to overheat. Can someone else comment on that?

Mine doesn't overheat, but I'm not a gamer.
 

moobieboobie

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Apr 30, 2011
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I have smart settings off and the voice prompt comes up every time i plug in headphones. The headphones doesn't have a mic either.

Sent from my LG-H810 using XDA Free mobile app
 

kinubic

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Apr 9, 2008
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tried out some video today and noticed some sort of warping~ is there a fix for this?

Anyone have problem with the camera app? Every now and then it gets an error has occured pop up when I try to take a video. Restarting the phone is the only way to have it record video. Video recording on ig doesn't also work when this happens

Sent from my LG-H810 using XDA Free mobile app
 

jsho31

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Aug 4, 2010
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Sooooooo....... No root that doesn't have a high chance of bricking I see... This will be my next phone if it gets root + bl workaround... Hope the device is good, the only complaint I have heard is that it likes to overheat. Can someone else comment on that?

Overheat and getting warm/hot are 2 different things. It gets warm but not too hot.

Sent from my LG-H811
 

KingFatty

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I have smart settings off and the voice prompt comes up every time i plug in headphones. The headphones doesn't have a mic either.

Sent from my LG-H810 using XDA Free mobile app

This morning I tried plugging the headphone jack at a bit of an angle, like slightly toward the right if holding the phone vertically, and that seemed to avoid the problem where the phone correctly identified them as headphones and not headset.

I hope this is a software issue and not some physical problem with our headphone jacks!
 

K-Jet

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After i smashed my G2 into the floor in a rage of burning agony and hate yesterday, after the 2nd aftermarket screen from hongkong in 2 months failed on me, I ordered a G4 immediately.

Got my G4 (H815) 2 hours ago! All seems fast and fine so far =) Touch is very responsive! My only complaint after 2 hours is that the volume is too low when playing podcasts, but i guess that can be fixed with an amp app!:good
 
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K-Jet

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Rofl

Sent from my SM-G920T

I tell you, it felt really good. Full force right into the floor.

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    Hiya guys,

    I've been back from vacation for a few weeks, and we've been hard at work on root/unlock ever since.
    Don't worry, we haven't run off with the devices you guys provided for us.

    Currently, we've found a few exploits that lead to root - the trouble is finding the simplest one that works across all variants and is the most 'trivial' in terms of patchability.
    The reasoning for that is we'd rather save the easy roots for the first few OTAs, as they'll get patched nearly immediately, and keep the more complex ones for later when LG slows down their OTA cycle.

    All of our dev phones have root currently, so we're able to play around with root ideas without any issues.

    Regarding bootloader unlock, we're still on track for a global unlock for all G4 devices. That's still the plan, no changes there.

    Our current task is figuring out how to unbrick the phone should our exploit fail and land the phone in QHSUSB mode. If anyone has the emmc programmer files from LG for this, please PM me or autoprime.
    Other than that, I might need to solder some magnet wire to the EMMC pins for recovery in case we brick in the process of trying the unlock.

    Anyway, I'll try to answer questions as much as I can, but remember I have to be vague so LG (who's undoubtedly reading these forums) doesn't get any ideas and send over a forced OTA to patch something before we even release it... that'd be a giant bummer.

    Thanks!
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    I sort of understand where you're coming from as the attitudes you describe are certainly found sometimes here on XDA, but I don't think the guy asking above sounded entitled or demanding. It's been several weeks since there's been a single word on any progress and so people are curious about where the devs are at. All of jcase's recent activity and tweets are about his HTC unlock, so has he just moved on? And we've heard nothing from the other team working on an unlock and a lot just want to know if they're even still working on it. Have they tried to find root and failed so they moved on and gave up? Are they still actively looking? Have they found something that might work for public release and they're just testing it out? People just want to know and so they asked, no harm done.

    I'm buying a new phone this week. I'm about to sink $600 into something which is a lot of money and root is a big factor of that decision. Asking for a simple update on whether or not devs are even still working on it is not out of line. Yes XDA is has its share of entitled and rude users, but just as worse are those who snuff out and stifle any conversation whatsoever any time it is brought up in any thread. Forums only survive when respectful conversation is allowed to occur.

    I don't generally give status updates, I have not stopped looking at the G4.
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    DON'T OTA

    going to post this once... please spread the word into the other G4 subforums and any related posts anywhere.

    I'm not sure if this is cause for alarm... but just putting the warning out there... based on viewing the latest USCC and T-Mobile files... these recent OTAs for USA carriers seem to be implementing "antirollback" which means you can never "go back" to a lesser version. To simplify things... fresh out of the box all of your phones were at "0" and now after the OTA they're at "1". Both the TMO and USCC KDZ file's are based on the OTA which is a "1" so there's no concern of flashing an older KDZ by mistake... at least for now. Not sure what will happen with future updates.

    Can only confirm this on the TMO H811 and USCC US991... Still waiting on Sprint users to grab the OTA URL or zip name for me so I can inspect that... but I suspect all of the recent OTAs from AT&T, Sprint and Verizon also used the "1" update. The European/Asian/Etc variants still seem to be using the "0" version.. even after the recent updates. [Not every OTA will bump up the "version"]

    I can't say what this means as a whole just yet... Maybe nothing at all. But perhaps for those who wish to stay at that fresh "0" for now... try your best to avoid the OTA update. I know the intl phones can disable updates but this option has been removed in USA variants. There are talks of an app that allows you to disable apks on your phone... I haven't used it myself but perhaps for those who want to maybe block the OTA app (LGDMSClient.apk)... worth checking out. This is said app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
    apks to attempt to disable:
    /system/priv-app/LGDMSClient/LGDMSClient.apk (not in all phones)
    /system/priv-apps/LGUpdateCenter/LGUpdateCenter.apk

    Again.. I don't really know what any of this means just yet... just reporting what I do know. Spread the word.
    And for those who were forced to OTA.. or saying this post has come too late.. everyone knows to never ever OTA.. and the app to disable OTA has been around for a bit now. I'm sorry but..

    Cross fingers and hope I'm wrong :fingers-crossed:

    Phones with "v1" status confirmed:
    H811 10H
    LS991 ZV5
    US991 10C
    VS986 11A

    Here's another thread with more info on potentially blocking the OTA without root http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/how-to-prevent-updates-g4-t3148650/
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    Hiya guys,

    I've been back from vacation for a few weeks, and we've been hard at work on root/unlock ever since.
    Don't worry, we haven't run off with the devices you guys provided for us.

    Currently, we've found a few exploits that lead to root - the trouble is finding the simplest one that works across all variants and is the most 'trivial' in terms of patchability.
    The reasoning for that is we'd rather save the easy roots for the first few OTAs, as they'll get patched nearly immediately, and keep the more complex ones for later when LG slows down their OTA cycle.

    All of our dev phones have root currently, so we're able to play around with root ideas without any issues.

    Regarding bootloader unlock, we're still on track for a global unlock for all G4 devices. That's still the plan, no changes there.

    Our current task is figuring out how to unbrick the phone should our exploit fail and land the phone in QHSUSB mode. If anyone has the emmc programmer files from LG for this, please PM me or autoprime.
    Other than that, I might need to solder some magnet wire to the EMMC pins for recovery in case we brick in the process of trying the unlock.

    Anyway, I'll try to answer questions as much as I can, but remember I have to be vague so LG (who's undoubtedly reading these forums) doesn't get any ideas and send over a forced OTA to patch something before we even release it... that'd be a giant bummer.

    Thanks!

    Hope you had a fantastic vacation and I think I speak for everyone here on a big THANK YOU on this update. It's something we needed because some people are tearing each other apart like starved wolves here lol

    Continue to do your thing (and @autoprime) and (the majority) of us will still wait patiently:)

    Thanks and have a great day!
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