The Nexus One's Dirty Display Secret

Bryce2010

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i dont understand how these phones can be different. i'm literally looking closely and have zero banding, its not even a little. so then i started experimenting setting different pics from my gallery as wallpapers, and they all look literally perfect, no weird banding whatsoever. i just dont get it:confused:
Maybe you (or someone else who says they have a perfect, clear, zero banding image) could use the shootme app on the market (free), take a screen-shot of the grasslive wallpaper during sunset and post it.

Might be interesting to compare...?
 

Bryce2010

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I can 100% confirm that this is not a problem with the OS, but rather the compression added by the screenshot app.

Case in point: my screenshot via ddms.
OK, maybe there is a slight increase in the banding once the shot has been captured via the app... but it really looks honestly just as bad for me without taking screenshots...

Not sure what ddms is but if it is a better representation of what the screen actually looks like then yes your iimage looks much better then what I see
 
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Bryce2010

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@britoso:

ok figured out what ddms is. I think my shot looks worse than yours.
But the sunset stage and night is when it is really bad... would be nice to compare those shots using ddms if it is a better method...
first shot yours, second shot mine



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(click on my image to make it larger and you can see mine is worse!)
 

bigmout

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OK, I spent the day yesterday scrutinizing my display, and noticed some serious weirdness.

* I do NOT have banding (i.e., concentric ripples) in the grass LIVE wallpaper, even at sunset.

* I DO have ghosting (i.e., horizontal lines) visible across the entire screen when using grass LIVE wallpaper at all times of day. It looks like the browser when you read text on a white background in portrait mode.

* Here's where things get really weird. I DO have banding (i.e., concentric ripples) using the REGULAR version of grass wallpaper (i.e., NOT live).

So, go figure, lol.
 

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I'll check my grass live wallpaper when the sun is setting here.
Almost positive I will have it, but I don't have my origional LED. I broke mine, and replace with an OEM part. (Same model number though). So Idk if it's older or newerly manufactured.
 

Bryce2010

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@britoso:

ok figured out what ddms is. I think my shot looks worse than yours.
But the sunset stage and night is when it is really bad... would be nice to compare those shots using ddms if it is a better method...
first shot yours, second shot mine



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(click on my image to make it larger and you can see mine is worse!)

What do y'all think? My shot looks bad in comparison right?
 

Bryce2010

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Meh, screenshots and the screen are totally different... This has turned into one big pile of nonsense...
not sure what 'screenshots & the screen are totally different' mean... My screenshots, especially the 'ddms' method shows how bad my screen looks some times.

What is nonsense is that Google/htc released this phone with so many issues and inconsistencies.
Look how long this thread is, it's not nonsense - these are real issues. It's hard when people are saying they see perfect images when that is not what I'm seeing! Why do they get to enjoy this wallpaper for example and I don't? Too bad for me right?:eek:
 

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Look how long this thread is, it's not nonsense - these are real issues.
Your'e right its not nonsense. I have a desire and a nexus, the desire screen is sweet, the best I have seen.

My N1 on the other hand is nowhere near as good, with similar issues to those mentioned here.

The two screens are so different I am convinced that they actually are. I have read that due to a shortage of amoled screens htc are fitting lcd units to the later N1's.

I just need to know how I can found out definatively what screen is fitted to mine.

I'll be well p1ssed off if an alternetive screen is the cause of my problems as I bought a phone from google that was advertised as having an amoled screen the same as my desire.
 

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Your'e right its not nonsense. I have a desire and a nexus, the desire screen is sweet, the best I have seen.

My N1 on the other hand is nowhere near as good, with similar issues to those mentioned here.

The two screens are so different I am convinced that they actually are. I have read that due to a shortage of amoled screens htc are fitting lcd units to the later N1's.

I just need to know how I can found out definatively what screen is fitted to mine.

I'll be well p1ssed off if an alternetive screen is the cause of my problems as I bought a phone from google that was advertised as having an amoled screen the same as my desire.
Very easy, wait for night time, get a solid black screen, turn the backlight all the way up, turn off the lights. LCD you'll see the bleed through and the backlight around the edge, AMOLED you'll see nothing.

And yes to the OP, comparing screenshots and calling it hardware problems is nonsense...
 

RogerPodacter

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Your'e right its not nonsense. I have a desire and a nexus, the desire screen is sweet, the best I have seen.

My N1 on the other hand is nowhere near as good, with similar issues to those mentioned here.

The two screens are so different I am convinced that they actually are. I have read that due to a shortage of amoled screens htc are fitting lcd units to the later N1's.

I just need to know how I can found out definatively what screen is fitted to mine.

I'll be well p1ssed off if an alternetive screen is the cause of my problems as I bought a phone from google that was advertised as having an amoled screen the same as my desire.
That's very weird cause the desire and Nexus use the exact same screen, down to the part number. It's literally the same Samsung 3.7 inch amoled pentile screen.
 

Bryce2010

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And yes to the OP, comparing screenshots and calling it hardware problems is nonsense...
Wow ok. What does OP mean? Original poster? Is that me? I suppose you think it nonsense that I don't know that either huh...

The only reason I posted/compared screenshots was to try to let other members of this forum see what I was seeing on my screen. I'm so sorry that this has apparently turned this thread into a big old pile of nonsense for you.

Perhaps you could try to elaborate on your point. Because in my mind the question still remains: do I have a defective device that needs repair? Some here have suggested no. Funny, I was told the same thing over the whole red tint issue so I did not go the repair route. It was only when it appeared that I may have a dead pixel did I send it in. I was told the screen had been replaced and the display did seem better. The guy at htc seemed to think I should send it in again when I called about this whole banding and saturation issue. And why did I call? Because people on this forum say that, specifically regarding the grass live wallpaper that they see a perfect image with zero banding and no image quality issues whatsoever. I'm telling you the image I see is messed up pretty bad - that's a pretty big discrepancy if you ask me.

So to help me and other viewers that may be presented with the same dilemma - as you seem to be so knowledgeable - maybe you could shed some light on why this is and what you would do. Because that is the point of a forum right? To share information and work together to try to arrive at solutions? Not just be negative and state what to you seems obvious.
 

RogerPodacter

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Wow I'm testing the live grass wallpaper and during sunset I sure do see the banding. That's pretty lame. This is the first time the pentile sub pixel layout has actually effected me since all those articles first came out, I never could reproduce those results and just assumed the pentile was fine.

But this is pretty lame that Google would actually include a default wallpaper that shows the limitation of this technology. Even worse is that this technology has this characteristic in the first place.

At least you know your phone is not defective now.