Things missing on the TF700 that are on the other transformers

[MattZTexasu]

I've notice different things that the TF300, TF200, and TF100 are able to do that the TF700 cannot:

• Built-in bluetooth support for PS3 controllers Fixed in JB
• HDMI out issues: HDMI over DVI does not work. Also, the TF700 is missing the HDMI menu option called "scaling". Both are fixed in JB
• unable to lock the navigation bar Fixed in JB
• can't change the mouse pointer shape it's in a different place - under asus customized setting

I hope these are addressed soon, since they appear to be software issues. The DVI issue is particularly troublesome as it prevents me from replacing my laptop. I have a theory that the HDMI driver in the TF700 doesn't implement the protocol that the monitor relies on to determine resolution.

I'll keep this list updated.

 

[Keion]

I've notice different things that the TF300, TF200, and TF100 are able to do that the TF700 cannot:

• Built-in bluetooth support for PS3 controllers
• HDMI out issues: HDMI over DVI does not work. Also, the TF700 is missing the HDMI menu option called "scaling."

I hope these are addressed soon, since they appear to be software issues. The DVI issue is particularly troublesome as it prevents me from replacing my laptop. I have a theory that the HDMI driver in the TF700 doesn't implement the protocol that the monitor relies on to determine resolution.

I'll keep this list updated.

Isn't scaling unnecessary because of the native 1080p resolution?

 

[jjdevega]

Noticed also the ability to lock the navigation bar below is missing. I used it a lot when I had the Prime for games and watching movies and letting my 5 year old play with my tablet without accidentally hitting buttons. Missing it. Hopefully they bring that back with the new JB coming soon.

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[MattZTexasu]

Isn't scaling unnecessary because of the native 1080p resolution?

I don't want it to scale 1080p on my 1920x1200 monitor.

 

[darkkterror]

I don't want it to scale 1080p on my 1920x1200 monitor.

Your monitor may have a setting in its' on screen menu to disable or control its' own automatic scaling. For example, my monitors have a setting called Aspect Control which I can set to 1:1 to prevent stretching a lower resolution video signal.

 

[Dachande]

I noticed that mouse pointer options in the settings menu is missing, on my prime I would use the blue ring as a pointer instead of the black mouse because it was easier to see

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[allan1313]

Yeah I miss the native PS3 controller over bluetooth. I guess sixaxis will have to do.

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[jtrosky]

I noticed that mouse pointer options in the settings menu is missing, on my prime I would use the blue ring as a pointer instead of the black mouse because it was easier to see

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Those settings are still there on my TF700.... Settings->Asus Customized Settings (Touchpad/Mouse). You don't have those settings on your TF700??

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[zenaxe]

Yeah I miss the native PS3 controller over bluetooth. I guess sixaxis will have to do.

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This is my biggest complaint, too. Other than that, I'm pretty happy. Hopefully this'll get ported over with the JB update.

 

[sledgie]

No lock bar.
Wifi Direct connects but doesn't work. (might as well not be there)
No Face Unlock
When Dock connected it doesn't actually show that it's charging with the >> lit up. Also, my dock seems to drain while the TF700 drains. Only way I can tell it's charging is by looking at orange button on top of Infinity.
Would have been nice to have HDMI options when connected, although on a 1080 it doesn't need it (but it does have extra pixels)

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[-BoneZ-]

Also, my dock seems to drain while the TF700 drains.

The dock charges the tablet and will keep the tablet charged to a certain level until it is completely discharged.

 

[jordanmw]

I am missing all of these features too.. especially the hdmi options. Can anyone get their tf700 to output actual 1920x1200? I have monitors that are that res and it still only outputs 1920x1080! I can't find any way to change this but I would like to find a work around or some way to set the config in the tablet to output native res only.

 

[neo1738]

I am missing all of these features too.. especially the hdmi options. Can anyone get their tf700 to output actual 1920x1200? I have monitors that are that res and it still only outputs 1920x1080! I can't find any way to change this but I would like to find a work around or some way to set the config in the tablet to output native res only.

As of now the software on the TF700 will ONLY output 1920x1200 resolution. Unless you have a monitor/tv that can adjust the input itself and downscale it then no you can't use it. I don't know of any android apps out there that allows this to happen at this time.

 

[allan1313]

Bring back the native PS3 already! !!!!

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[xRevilatioNx]

As of now the software on the TF700 will ONLY output 1920x1200 resolution. Unless you have a monitor/tv that can adjust the input itself and downscale it then no you can't use it. I don't know of any android apps out there that allows this to happen at this time.

It doesn't make me a sandwich or transport me back to my spaceship. Dammit Asus! Slackers...

 

[jordanmw]

As of now the software on the TF700 will ONLY output 1920x1200 resolution. Unless you have a monitor/tv that can adjust the input itself and downscale it then no you can't use it. I don't know of any android apps out there that allows this to happen at this time.

That is not true!! I want to see someone with a native 1920x1200 lcd that has it connected to the infinity at native resolution!! It will only output 1080 on vertical resolution. I have tried several 1920x1200 native monitors and even bought a brand new one for $300+ and it will not fill the entire screen no matter what. I want video proof of this claim-- someone, anyone, have a native 1920x1200 monitor that they can hook up to an infinity and use the monitor's menu to display the current resolution as 1920x1200?

There may be no apps that currently support that resolution but the launcher and other infinity screens should run at native res.

Word to the wise neo- test it before answering. You need a monitor that will support the native res... not very many monitors out there run at that resolution natively.

 

[pileot]

I've notice different things that the TF300, TF200, and TF100 are able to do that the TF700 cannot:

• Built-in bluetooth support for PS3 controllers
• HDMI out issues: HDMI over DVI does not work. Also, the TF700 is missing the HDMI menu option called "scaling"
• unable to lock the navigation bar
• can't change the mouse pointer shape

I hope these are addressed soon, since they appear to be software issues. The DVI issue is particularly troublesome as it prevents me from replacing my laptop. I have a theory that the HDMI driver in the TF700 doesn't implement the protocol that the monitor relies on to determine resolution.

I'll keep this list updated.

Bluetooth support is there, get the sixaxis app its better than the default support anyways, lets you customize screen touches, etc. and set different profiles for different games.
HDMI over DVI does not work on newer devices because it costs manufacturers LESS to have the security / id profile included in their HDMI devices. Basically, when you plug in a device over HDMI the two devices talk to each other and set up a sort of security protocal. DVI does not have this and a lot of legacy devices do not have this which is why DVI to HDMI works but barely. You also have this problem with MHL adapters for your samsung phones, some MHL adapters support this newer profile, some do not. Those that do not don't work with some TV's. Just do your research and make sure the tech your connecting is compatible. Its like saying "My truck doesnt run on electricity! Why do i have to use gas?"

Scaling was needed when the HDMI signal being transmitted was lower resolution than 1080p. Since were transmitting a full HD signal there is no need to scale. Its already 1:1. No need to choose between upscaling or sending a smaller resolution and having it stretched or having it windowed or whatever. That is like asking why you get no money back when you buy your morning coffee and give the person exact change. I dont understand why so many people complain theres no scaling feature when if you stop to think about it you realize its a useless feature on this tablet.

Lock the navigation bar would be nice. Its about the only "feature" i can tell were missing.

Mouse pointer shape can be changed. I forget where the setting for it is, someone posted it on the forum here somewhere, mines currently the circle instead of the pointer. You can also root into the tablet and change what image it uses. Theres a thread about it somewhere....

 

[jordanmw]

Bluetooth support is there, get the sixaxis app its better than the default support anyways, lets you customize screen touches, etc. and set different profiles for different games.
HDMI over DVI does not work on newer devices because it costs manufacturers LESS to have the security / id profile included in their HDMI devices. Basically, when you plug in a device over HDMI the two devices talk to each other and set up a sort of security protocal. DVI does not have this and a lot of legacy devices do not have this which is why DVI to HDMI works but barely. You also have this problem with MHL adapters for your samsung phones, some MHL adapters support this newer profile, some do not. Those that do not don't work with some TV's. Just do your research and make sure the tech your connecting is compatible. Its like saying "My truck doesnt run on electricity! Why do i have to use gas?"

Scaling was needed when the HDMI signal being transmitted was lower resolution than 1080p. Since were transmitting a full HD signal there is no need to scale. Its already 1:1. No need to choose between upscaling or sending a smaller resolution and having it stretched or having it windowed or whatever. That is like asking why you get no money back when you buy your morning coffee and give the person exact change. I dont understand why so many people complain theres no scaling feature when if you stop to think about it you realize its a useless feature on this tablet.

Lock the navigation bar would be nice. Its about the only "feature" i can tell were missing.

Mouse pointer shape can be changed. I forget where the setting for it is, someone posted it on the forum here somewhere, mines currently the circle instead of the pointer. You can also root into the tablet and change what image it uses. Theres a thread about it somewhere....

So your answer to this thread about features we are missing was to tell us that you are not missing the features... save 1... then discount the need for features that others find useful and needed??? Nice post.

Scaling is needed on any device that may need to output to a different resolution than what the device is at natively.... not like asking for money back when getting exact change... pretty bad analogy. Saying there is no use for this function is silly. There may be no use for you, but many others out there would love that option and I think you are in the minority of users who think it is useless. A more tactful way to approach that would have been to ask if there was a reason that people need it. I can say without a doubt that it is a feature that I am asked about frequently since I support a large number of these tablets. I have had very little luck getting hdmi output to be reliable and compatible with full size monitors. The suggestion on the first page to set the ratio to 1:1 is no help since most monitors do not have that option... it is the monitor's default mode already and starts in that mode.

 

[MattZTexasu]

A couple of things you wrote are wrong.

HDMI over DVI does not work on newer devices because it costs manufacturers LESS to have the security / id profile included in their HDMI devices. Basically, when you plug in a device over HDMI the two devices talk to each other and set up a sort of security protocal. DVI does not have this.

You are referring to HDCP. DVI does support HDCP. Both monitors I tested with are HDCP enabled and work fine with other HDCP devices over the same HDMI-DVI adapters that I used to test the TF700 with. Here is an informative article http://tv.about.com/od/hdtv/a/hdmidvihdcp.htm. You have to have a really old display not to support HDCP.

Scaling was needed when the HDMI signal being transmitted was lower resolution than 1080p. Since were transmitting a full HD signal there is no need to scale. Its already 1:1.

A scaling setting is needed for connecting the TF700 to a 1200p display. I have yet to experience this; but I've read that the TF700 will scale 1080p up to 1200p. It would be better if it did 1:1 on 1200p monitors. see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31420239&postcount=8

Mouse pointer shape can be changed. I forget where the setting for it is, someone posted it on the forum here somewhere, mines currently the circle instead of the pointer. You can also root into the tablet and change what image it uses. Theres a thread about it somewhere....

This may not be wrong; but it would be a lot more helpful if you provided the location or at least a link to the thread. You might as well be wrong about this too.

 

[PAPB0007]

The TF101 had 2 speakers, and although there were issues with the balance it was nice to not muffle a speaker when stood it up in my lap in portrait mode.
Not a tablet feature, but the TF101 dock had 2 USB ports.