This is like my 7th whitestone dome glass screen that has lifted from the edges!!

hallo dare

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Same issue as the OP has brought me here. I installed this on my Oneplus 7 pro in early July. Today, almost an exact month later, the left side has started lifting.

To me it was a perfect install. I done exactly as mentioned in the installation demo, etc. But now find myself having to contact White Stone. Sickened.
 

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Same issue as the OP has brought me here. I installed this on my Oneplus 7 pro in early July. Today, almost an exact month later, the left side has started lifting.

To me it was a perfect install. I done exactly as mentioned in the installation demo, etc. But now find myself having to contact White Stone. Sickened.
mabe it needed additional curing time? i always cure it more than specified.

so if you have reoccurring issues and the application was done correctly and it still lifts. i think more cure time on initial install would help.
 

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mabe it needed additional curing time? i always cure it more than specified.

so if you have reoccurring issues and the application was done correctly and it still lifts. i think more cure time on initial install would help.
Maybe. I was weary of this when installing and gave double the curing time for all stages. I might have to double these times yet again if the manufacturer sends a replacement
 

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Maybe. I was weary of this when installing and gave double the curing time for all stages. I might have to double these times yet again if the manufacturer sends a replacement
BUT!

if as you stated above and have always doubled the curing times then maybe you need to tone it down to regular indication. if something is constantly reoccuring then it means its something in the method.

hope you get it sorted out. also do you have a case that might be slightly pushing against it?
 

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BUT!

if as you stated above and have always doubled the curing times then maybe you need to tone it down to regular indication. if something is constantly reoccuring then it means its something in the method.

hope you get it sorted out. also do you have a case that might be slightly pushing against it?
Will see when i hear back from vendor.

Yes i have a case on it, but it's nice and loose at this particular area, so no pressure being applied to force the glass off the screen.

Seems to be a common issue with this tempered glass from Whitestone going by Google results.
 
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Will see when i hear back from vendor.

Yes i have a case on it, but it's nice and loose at this particular area, so no pressure being applied to force the glass off the screen.

Seems to be a common issue with this tempered glass from Whitestone going by Google results.
ive had them on my note 8 and note 9. the only time i had an issue was on the note 8 when i had a case that was just barely touching it.. and i kind of knew when I put the case on it the first time. i bought another case with more room and the 2nd application went ok.
 

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I've seen this on a few occasions. There doesn't seem to be a predictable cause in my case - I've had it occur on both sides of the phone. I suspect it could be to do with how much work I had to do to squeeze out small bubbles that often form in the areas affected (lower third on both edges).

Another theory of mine is that it's to do with minor imperfections in the glass itself. The last time it occurred for me, I could notice deformations in the reflections on the glass in the general vicinity of the lifting.

I've also seen the lifting using alternative LOCA glue too. I've started using glue from China which cures to a harder plastic, rather than the rubbery compound of the original Whitestone glue. This has the benefit of not picking up fluff around the edges in the same way. The new glue doesn't actually stick as well as the original glue, so I expect that I'll encounter the lifting more frequently, but since the glue can peel off in a single sheet, it's much easier to re-apply the protector than it is with the Whitestone LOCA which is tricker to remove, and often causes small scratches to the back-side of the glass.
 

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I've seen this on a few occasions. There doesn't seem to be a predictable cause in my case - I've had it occur on both sides of the phone. I suspect it could be to do with how much work I had to do to squeeze out small bubbles that often form in the areas affected (lower third on both edges).

Another theory of mine is that it's to do with minor imperfections in the glass itself. The last time it occurred for me, I could notice deformations in the reflections on the glass in the general vicinity of the lifting.

I've also seen the lifting using alternative LOCA glue too. I've started using glue from China which cures to a harder plastic, rather than the rubbery compound of the original Whitestone glue. This has the benefit of not picking up fluff around the edges in the same way. The new glue doesn't actually stick as well as the original glue, so I expect that I'll encounter the lifting more frequently, but since the glue can peel off in a single sheet, it's much easier to re-apply the protector than it is with the Whitestone LOCA which is tricker to remove, and often causes small scratches to the back-side of the glass.
i think the new question is: even with all those lets downs, what keeps you from coming back to the glass +loca formula?

to me regular glass with either 2 black bands of adhesives or full adhesive are jut the worst: rainbow effect,dotmatrix, poor touch sensitivity, after a while humidity gets under and then dust.

id take a few imperfections on the sides or small bubbles over the above. i wasted too much money on tpu film and regular tempered glass to go back.
 
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i think the new question is: even with all those lets downs, what keeps you from coming back to the glass +loca formula?

to me regular glass with either 2 black bands of adhesives or full adhesive are jut the worst: rainbow effect,dotmatrix, poor touch sensitivity, after a while humidity gets under and then dust.

id take a few imperfections on the sides or small bubbles over the above. i wasted too much money on tpu film and regular tempered glass to go back.
Not sure if that was intended for somebody else, but I'm most definitely a "glass + loca" chap. For me, the Whitestone appears to be the best glass (although, I've only tried a couple of others to be fair). As it stands, I'm preferring the use of the Whitestone glass with the chinese sourced LOCA glue - it gives the slick glass surface with decent oleophobic coating along with fluff-free edges.
 

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Not sure if that was intended for somebody else, but I'm most definitely a "glass + loca" chap. For me, the Whitestone appears to be the best glass (although, I've only tried a couple of others to be fair). As it stands, I'm preferring the use of the Whitestone glass with the chinese sourced LOCA glue - it gives the slick glass surface with decent oleophobic coating along with fluff-free edges.
I was generally putting this out there.
 

StevePritchard

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FWIW I think I've tracked down the cause of some of my edge lifting issues.

I've stopped using the Whitestone loca, and am using some Chinese sourced glue. This new glue sets to a hard plastic, rather than a gum, and this gives cleaner dust free edges and is easier to remove from the glass for re-application, as it peels off in a single sheet.

I've had a couple of instances where the edge has lifted, not dissimilar to the original post with both types of glue, and the most recent occurrence was just after using my phone in my wife's car cradle. This cradle uses a spring loaded mechanism to grip the sides of the phone, whereas mine just uses a gravity mechanism to hold it. I found that applying pressure to the side of the phone (not the protector) could cause the glue to come unstuck. The pressure didn't have to be that great, and it's obviously causing a little bit of flex in the frame and screen which, over time, the glue isn't strong enough to hold onto (it probably doesn't help that the oleophobic coating of the screen makes it very slick, and so the glue doesn't grip very well, although this does make it easy to remove).

My suspicion is that over time the constant flexing, even if it's not very much, causes the grip of the glue on the screen to start to fail, and that's what causes these lifts. Presumably any pressure on the sides of the phone, not necessarily those from a case or a cradle, could flex the phone enough. So gripping it tightly, or having it in a pocket could presumably contribute to the effect.

Cheers,

Steve.
 
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