[TOOL/UTILITY][TWRP][3.0][RECOVERY] TWRP 3.0.2-0 TeamWin Recovery Project 4/5

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Because password protection of recovery is useless...
If a thief wants to wipe a device...they simply power it down and boot into download mode...
Then they push a stock image...
Everything is erased...including passwords within the system or recovery partitions anyway..

The logical step would be to protect DL mode...or disable the volume buttons with a password......
Preventing button actions in a powered down state would be difficult though...

Hardware key remapping would do the trick...and the Rom would need support for that...but it's absolutely doable....

The DL mode is a great thing...and a security nightmare...all rolled up into one..g

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Yes, I totally see the double edged sword of disabling your hardware buttons. Absolute security would be assured, but what if you got in trouble and needed them. I could see a brick problem happening really fast...unless there was a way to password protect the volume rocker.

My original point was that, yes, ODIN hack would still be a vulnerability; one that is likely unavoidable at the present time. However, if recovery was password protected, a computer with ODIN (or other hacking software) would be needed to hack the phone. This would buy the user some time. The phone could be locked in the on position, GPS could be remotely enabled, the phone could be ordered to screem when you knew you were close to it, remote pictures and recording could aid in it's recovery. The phone would likely be stolen some distance from the thief's hacking computer (if he is that sophisticated). Most phones are stolen by people that are not hackers, but may be knowledgeable about recovery. All phone have a recovery and recovery can be used to hack any phone to a clean state in less than 5 minutes, on the spot, regardless of how fancy you think your anti-theft software is. Then the SIM card can be replaced and you phone is as good and gone forever.

But, what if recovery was password protected? A hacker would remove the battery and ODIN hack it at his convenience, but most thieves are not that knowledgeable. Somebody finds a phone and decides they want it for their own, instead of trying to return it. There are a lot more people that can figure out a recovery hack than there are people that know how to ODIN hack.

So I respectfully disagree with your proposal that password protected recovery would be useless. In most cases, it would buy those of us with anti-theft software time and a greater chance of retrieving our $600+ phone, before hack occurs. We can password protect literally everything on an android phone, except its greatest vulnerability; recovery.
 
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Yes, I totally see the double edged sword of disabling your hardware buttons. Absolute security would be assured, but what if you got in trouble and needed them. I could see a brick problem happening really fast...unless there was a way to password protect the volume rocker.

My original point was that, yes, ODIN hack would still be a vulnerability; one that is likely unavoidable at the present time. However, if recovery was password protected, a computer with ODIN (or other hacking software) would be needed to hack the phone. This would buy the user some time. The phone could be locked in the on position, GPS could be remotely enabled, the phone could be ordered to screem when you knew you were close to it, remote pictures and recording could aid in it's recovery. The phone would likely be stolen some distance from the thief's hacking computer (if he is that sophisticated). Most phones are stolen by people that are not hackers, but may be knowledgeable about recovery. All phone have a recovery and recovery can be used to hack any phone to a clean state in less than 5 minutes, on the spot, regardless of how fancy you think your anti-theft software is. Then the SIM card can be replaced and you phone is as good and gone forever.

But, what if recovery was password protected? A hacker would remove the battery and ODIN hack it at his convenience, but most thieves are not that knowledgeable. Somebody finds a phone and decides they want it for their own, instead of trying to return it. There are a lot more people that can figure out a recovery hack than there are people that know how to ODIN hack.

So I respectfully disagree with your proposal that password protected recovery would be useless. In most cases, it would buy those of us with anti-theft software time and a greater chance of retrieving our $600+ phone, before hack occurs. We can password protect literally everything on an android phone, except its greatest vulnerability; recovery.
Maybe someone will be able to develop this feature at some point and submit the code to our gerrit.
 

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Maybe someone will be able to develop this feature at some point and submit the code to our gerrit.
An excellent idea bigbiff..
I feel bad for going off topic here...

And I'll start a new thread for further discussion regarding this subject if further interest is shown...

Thank you Sir....g

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Got it through goomanager thanks

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I'm gonna guess, that you knew about the TWRP update because of ekoee's post? - it might be a nice idea to hit the Thanks button on his post ;)

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365+ posts......7 Thanks given?? Eek!
Obviously doesn't appreciate the free goodies on this site
Tisk tisk
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365+ posts......7 Thanks given?? Eek!
Obviously doesn't appreciate the free goodies on this site
Tisk tisk
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You know how people are around here!! Either unappreciated,, or always asking for updates:what:!! These guys (devs) around here deserve a donation here and there. $2 won't kill ya!!!

Just my 2¢® :cool:

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QUESTION::
Why is it I can't see my old backups, in the new version of TWRP:confused:?? Or am I missing something, that's right in front of me??? :banghead:

But if I go back to my old version 2.4.4.0 then all is good..
Or do I just need to do a back up with the new version, in order for them too show up?? :confused: I even moved my backup to my internal SD still nothing there?? Wth
Just wondering is all, why it's not showing up. I flashed back to the version that working for me!!

Just my 2¢®:cool:
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QUESTION::
Why is it I can't see my old backups, in the new version of TWRP:confused:?? Or am I missing something, that's right in front of me??? :banghead:

But if I go back to my old version 2.4.4.0 then all is good..
Or do I just need to do a back up with the new version, in order for them too show up?? :confused: I even moved my backup to my internal SD still nothing there?? Wth
Just wondering is all, why it's not showing up. I flashed back to the version that working for me!!

Just my 2¢®:cool:
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Unless you happen to have stored your backups on the internal memory - you will never find them ;)

You're looking at Data in the screen shot of 2.6.0.0, and looking at the external memory with the older version of TWRP ;) ^_^

Oh yeah - silly rabbit - lol


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Unless you happen to have stored your backups on the internal memory - you will never find them ;)

You're looking at Data in the screen shot of 2.6.0.0, and looking at the external memory with the older version of TWRP ;) ^_^

Oh yeah - silly rabbit - lol


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Thanx 4 the info shaggy. Lol;)

But the data shot is from me hitting restore in the new version of TWRP 2.6.. That's what comes up!:confused:
But in the 2.4 twrp if I hit restore, I'll get those 2 different options. So whatever your backups are you'll b able to locate them. But not in this new one from what I can see.

Note: when updating TWRP on my other phone TMO GN2 which had 2.5 on it. When it went to 2.6 my backups were there??:confused:
And you can also back up, to your external SD also!!!

Guess it had the newer version 2.5 so it worked with the update?

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Thanx 4 the info shaggy. Lol;)

But the data shot is from me hitting restore in the new version of TWRP 2.6.. That's what comes up!:confused:
But in the 2.4 twrp if I hit restore, I'll get those 2 different options. So whatever your backups are you'll b able to locate them. But not in this new one from what I can see.

Note: when updating TWRP on my other phone TMO GN2 which had 2.5 on it. When it went to 2.6 my backups were there??:confused:
And you can also back up, to your external SD also!!!

Guess it had the newer version 2.5 so it worked with the update?

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If you touch the screen where you see Storage Data at the top, under the time & battery, you will see that you can select where twrp should look for the backups - if I'm understanding you correctly.

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If you touch the screen where you see Storage Data at the top, under the time & battery, you will see that you can select where twrp should look for the backups - if I'm understanding you correctly.

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Ok thanx shag. I'll try loading it back up and I'll let ya know k.

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Dees_Troy even put an ok button on the change storage screen. NICE
Yeah! 2.6.0.0 is nice!
bigbiff - while you're here - on the advanced wipe screen - there's cache, dalvik, system followed by data and data etc. Which data are the two datas referring to?

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As soon you said where to hit it had popped up
for me. Right after I rebooted into recovery!!
Double thanx to you bruh:thumbup::thumbup:




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Hey I got it even from the pictures you put up.
Thanx again for the help.

I think this WILL help a lot of people, that were having issues with the newer version's. Because there's no instructions that goes with it. Lol:D

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As soon you said where to hit it had popped up
for me. Right after I rebooted into recovery!!
Double thanx to you bruh:thumbup::thumbup:






Hey I got it even from the pictures you put up.
Thanx again for the help.

I think this WILL help a lot of people, that were having issues with the newer version's. Because there's no instructions that goes with it. Lol:D

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Happy that I could help ;)
Instructions - Heck - I just press everything, until something breaks - lol

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