May I add that my phone keeps jumping from 96 to 100% when changing? And the 100% never lasts as long as it lasted on 4.3. Not sure if related tho, but it makes sudden jumps going down also, as it did just now from 94 to 91% and I believe the drain I had yesterday was the same issue.
Tricky Idle battery drain problem
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That's how the battery technology works, it keeps dropping and charging again so its life doesn't get wasted.
@op I am start to wonder if this may be related to the some sort of calibration. If we do get a 2%/h battery drain, like some of us say here, maybe we should see how long the battery lasts. It doesn't matter if we drop very fast to 10%, for example, if when the battery gets there, it takes a whole other day to shutdown.
Do you see what I mean?
Results from experiment #1 (WiFi) night# 3
BBS Log:
http://pastebin.com/g8sL7AUD
Battery Drain Log:
Time in ms;Battery Percent;Drain Value; Taken in account
1393327739577;95;-0.31925274991903396;true
1393316463245;96;-0.477094115163363;true
1393308917564;97;-7.681917406584684;true
1393307980298;99;-5.974072525240456;false
1393307377694;100;90.82927124648036;false
BBS Log:
http://pastebin.com/g8sL7AUD
Battery Drain Log:
Time in ms;Battery Percent;Drain Value; Taken in account
1393327739577;95;-0.31925274991903396;true
1393316463245;96;-0.477094115163363;true
1393308917564;97;-7.681917406584684;true
1393307980298;99;-5.974072525240456;false
1393307377694;100;90.82927124648036;false
I really don't think this is the case. We experience normal battery then at other times a drain. I personally experience the drain after using GPS and it stops after a reboot, this isn't a battery calibration issue.
I never see this 'battery jump' at all. I really think blaming the battery in some way is confusing the issue.
Many people have now noticed issues after GPS is used. OP even saw the drain when GPS kicked in when he looked at an old battery screen shot.
Hey guys i am also expierencing a weird drain : if i go to sleep and turn on airplane mode at around 93%, and i wake up 7 hours later it suddenly dropped to 88%.. I have all apps closed when i go to sleep and location services off. Anyone else had this problem or does anyone know a solution?
Thanks.
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Something interesting happened tonight, but I won't take it as victory though, I woke up at 5 am, so I unplugged the charger and left the phone there, I had wifi and sync on. When I woke up, 2 hours later, the phone still had 100% battery. It had never happened to me, since every hour it used to drop like 3% even if I don't use. I'm gonna test with 3G now.
The only thing I did was unticking Google Play Services' "show notification" box. Have you guys tried that?
The only thing I did was unticking Google Play Services' "show notification" box. Have you guys tried that?
im going to try this, ive been having extremely poor battery life lately...for instance last night left wifi and 3g on with 57% battery, woke up with 9% left...only 34 mins of screen on time :crying:
Yes I did, and it stopped the drain immediately but couple hours later the drain was back. I think the problem is somewhere with the wifi, still testing some settings.
Did anyone tried to re-flash the kitkat?
Experiment #2: Isolate GPS (Duration: 3 nights)
This will take a total of 3 nights.
Preparation: Install battery drain analyzer. It's a simple app that timestamps each increase/decrease in battery percentage, logs it, and calculates % drain per hour.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...eryDrain&hl=en
Methodology.
1. Keep GPS off. Perform a set usage pattern, then keep phone on sleep all night. [This is identical to the WiFi experiment, so there is no need to replicate this]
2. Perform the set usage pattern using WIFI, then keep phone on sleep all night with GPS turned on.
3. Perform the set usage pattern using GPS, then keep phone on sleep all night with wifi turned off.
Night #1 (Click for data) [This is identical to the WiFi experiment, so there is no need to replicate this]
1. Fully charge the phone. Keep it connected.
2. Turn off wifi and bluetooth.
3. Turn off location services.
4. Turn on 3g if not already on.
5. Make sure no rogue wakelocks will occur (turn of Tasker, greenify what you need to greenify to avoid wakelocks,etc ... whatever it takes in your particular circumstance).
6. Reboot the phone.
7. Check to make sure only 3g is on.
8. Browse the web a bit to create network activity.
9. Open maps, check traffic, etc ... to create some map activity (don't turn GPS on).
10. Make sure BetterBatteryStats is running.
11. Disconnect from the charger, and don't touch the phone till the morning.
12. In the morning take a screenshot of battery settings screen, detailed battery percentage, and top apps.
13. Dump BetterBatteryStats to a file.
14. Screenshot/dump battery drain analyzer log.
Night #2 (Click for data)
1. Fully charge the phone. Keep it connected.
2. Turn off wifi and bluetooth.
3. Turn off location services.
4. Turn on 3g if not already on.
5. Make sure no rogue wakelocks will occur (turn of Tasker, greenify what you need to greenify to avoid wakelocks,etc ... whatever it takes in your particular circumstance).
6. Reboot the phone.
7. Check to make sure only 3g is on.
8. Turn on WiFi, and make sure it is connected.
9. Browse the web a bit to create network activity.
10. Open maps, check traffic, etc ... to create some map activity (don't turn GPS on).
11. Make sure BetterBatteryStats is running.
12. Disconnect from the charger, and don't touch the phone till the morning.
13. In the morning take a screenshot of battery settings screen, detailed battery percentage, and top apps.
14. Dump BetterBatteryStats to a file.
14. Screenshot/dump battery drain analyzer log.
Night #3 (Click for data)
1. Fully charge the phone. Keep it connected.
2. Turn off wifi and bluetooth.
3. Turn off location services.
4. Turn on 3g if not already on.
5. Make sure no rogue wakelocks will occur (turn of Tasker, greenify what you need to greenify to avoid wakelocks,etc ... whatever it takes in your particular circumstance).
6. Reboot the phone.
7. Check to make sure only 3g is on.
8. Turn on WiFi, and make sure it is connected.
9. Browse the web a bit to create network activity.
10. Open maps, check traffic, etc ... to create some map activity (don't turn GPS on).
11. Make sure BetterBatteryStats is running.
12. Turn off Wifi.
13. Disconnect from the charger, and don't touch the phone till the morning.
14. In the morning take a screenshot of battery settings screen, detailed battery percentage, and top apps.
15. Dump BetterBatteryStats to a file.
16. Screenshot/dump battery drain analyzer log.
Here is my proposal for the 2nd in a series of experiments to isolate this bug. Our current collective hunch is that this problem caused by wifi or gps (or some combination) turning on, and continuously causing some form of battery drain even when switched off. This second experiment is to isolate if it is due to GPS (the first one dealt with WiFi).
This will take a total of 3 nights.
Preparation: Install battery drain analyzer. It's a simple app that timestamps each increase/decrease in battery percentage, logs it, and calculates % drain per hour.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...eryDrain&hl=en
Methodology.
1. Keep GPS off. Perform a set usage pattern, then keep phone on sleep all night. [This is identical to the WiFi experiment, so there is no need to replicate this]
2. Perform the set usage pattern using WIFI, then keep phone on sleep all night with GPS turned on.
3. Perform the set usage pattern using GPS, then keep phone on sleep all night with wifi turned off.
Night #1 (Click for data) [This is identical to the WiFi experiment, so there is no need to replicate this]
1. Fully charge the phone. Keep it connected.
2. Turn off wifi and bluetooth.
3. Turn off location services.
4. Turn on 3g if not already on.
5. Make sure no rogue wakelocks will occur (turn of Tasker, greenify what you need to greenify to avoid wakelocks,etc ... whatever it takes in your particular circumstance).
6. Reboot the phone.
7. Check to make sure only 3g is on.
8. Browse the web a bit to create network activity.
9. Open maps, check traffic, etc ... to create some map activity (don't turn GPS on).
10. Make sure BetterBatteryStats is running.
11. Disconnect from the charger, and don't touch the phone till the morning.
12. In the morning take a screenshot of battery settings screen, detailed battery percentage, and top apps.
13. Dump BetterBatteryStats to a file.
14. Screenshot/dump battery drain analyzer log.
Night #2 (Click for data)
1. Fully charge the phone. Keep it connected.
2. Turn off wifi and bluetooth.
3. Turn off location services.
4. Turn on 3g if not already on.
5. Make sure no rogue wakelocks will occur (turn of Tasker, greenify what you need to greenify to avoid wakelocks,etc ... whatever it takes in your particular circumstance).
6. Reboot the phone.
7. Check to make sure only 3g is on.
8. Turn on WiFi, and make sure it is connected.
9. Browse the web a bit to create network activity.
10. Open maps, check traffic, etc ... to create some map activity (don't turn GPS on).
11. Make sure BetterBatteryStats is running.
12. Disconnect from the charger, and don't touch the phone till the morning.
13. In the morning take a screenshot of battery settings screen, detailed battery percentage, and top apps.
14. Dump BetterBatteryStats to a file.
14. Screenshot/dump battery drain analyzer log.
Night #3 (Click for data)
1. Fully charge the phone. Keep it connected.
2. Turn off wifi and bluetooth.
3. Turn off location services.
4. Turn on 3g if not already on.
5. Make sure no rogue wakelocks will occur (turn of Tasker, greenify what you need to greenify to avoid wakelocks,etc ... whatever it takes in your particular circumstance).
6. Reboot the phone.
7. Check to make sure only 3g is on.
8. Turn on WiFi, and make sure it is connected.
9. Browse the web a bit to create network activity.
10. Open maps, check traffic, etc ... to create some map activity (don't turn GPS on).
11. Make sure BetterBatteryStats is running.
12. Turn off Wifi.
13. Disconnect from the charger, and don't touch the phone till the morning.
14. In the morning take a screenshot of battery settings screen, detailed battery percentage, and top apps.
15. Dump BetterBatteryStats to a file.
16. Screenshot/dump battery drain analyzer log.
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Results from experiment #2 (GPS) night# 2
Summary: Constant drain 1.5-2%/hr when location services were on but were not in use, also even after location services were switched off and phone put in airplane mode.
As you can see, the drain was constant all night long. Then, in the morning, I switched off location services and put the phone in airplane mode. The drain persisted. See below:
BBS Log:
http://pastebin.com/TCQMUDtR
Battery Drain Log:
Time in ms;Battery Percent;Drain Value; Taken in account
1393531186613;75;-1.548417066136764;true
1393528861658;76;-1.934330552374955;true
1393527000549;77;-1.5009506020479637;true
1393524602069;78;-1.7138074803888057;true
1393522501483;79;-2.205859375239351;true
1393520869466;80;-1.385704761743463;true
1393518271510;81;-1.5756688714359246;true
1393515986766;82;-1.9101801459059269;true
1393514102127;83;-1.5833132853618728;true
1393511828414;84;-2.046626704385239;true
1393510069422;85;-1.6471253544751023;true
1393507883796;86;-2.7936775971889394;true
1393506595172;87;-7.191470915494224;true
1393506094579;88;-5.26118879483702;true
1393505410323;89;-3.2668350901646486;true
1393504308339;90;-6.994243349154571;true
1393503793630;91;-2.0189353705138977;true
1393502010512;92;-2.1052557710323825;true
1393500300506;93;-1.901972345322099;true
1393498407734;94;-1.8506361818908053;true
1393496462457;95;-1.7408073284120065;true
1393494394451;96;-1.4283129719384111;true
1393491873995;97;-1.929245975646485;true
1393490007981;98;-1.7941528558428084;true
1393488001463;99;-0.6739679865206403;false
1393482659963;100;74.66891595252993;false
Summary: Constant drain 1.5-2%/hr when location services were on but were not in use, also even after location services were switched off and phone put in airplane mode.
As you can see, the drain was constant all night long. Then, in the morning, I switched off location services and put the phone in airplane mode. The drain persisted. See below:
BBS Log:
http://pastebin.com/TCQMUDtR
Battery Drain Log:
Time in ms;Battery Percent;Drain Value; Taken in account
1393531186613;75;-1.548417066136764;true
1393528861658;76;-1.934330552374955;true
1393527000549;77;-1.5009506020479637;true
1393524602069;78;-1.7138074803888057;true
1393522501483;79;-2.205859375239351;true
1393520869466;80;-1.385704761743463;true
1393518271510;81;-1.5756688714359246;true
1393515986766;82;-1.9101801459059269;true
1393514102127;83;-1.5833132853618728;true
1393511828414;84;-2.046626704385239;true
1393510069422;85;-1.6471253544751023;true
1393507883796;86;-2.7936775971889394;true
1393506595172;87;-7.191470915494224;true
1393506094579;88;-5.26118879483702;true
1393505410323;89;-3.2668350901646486;true
1393504308339;90;-6.994243349154571;true
1393503793630;91;-2.0189353705138977;true
1393502010512;92;-2.1052557710323825;true
1393500300506;93;-1.901972345322099;true
1393498407734;94;-1.8506361818908053;true
1393496462457;95;-1.7408073284120065;true
1393494394451;96;-1.4283129719384111;true
1393491873995;97;-1.929245975646485;true
1393490007981;98;-1.7941528558428084;true
1393488001463;99;-0.6739679865206403;false
1393482659963;100;74.66891595252993;false
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I have updated the first post in this thread with the status of my experiments. Please see that post for reference.
Was a little confused by the results, sorry. Are you saying the drain happens when any type of location is used and not just GPS.
Very interesting.
I have actually had a few days of sometimes drain and sometimes not when using GPS so have to concede that either its an intermittent GPS issue OR it's not related to just GPS but maybe GPS with some location weirdness thrown in, at least in my case. I appreciate your case may vary.
I've just updated to the latest KitKat level. That small 9MB update. I've had no drain since then but I'm pretty sure that just coincidence.
ya the latest 9mb update fixed my issues too, lol weird
My is the dual XT1033 dual...Anyone?
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yes me too, i did the same test 5% 8 h of airplane mode all off no app runing...
if i let the phone on normal and dont use it for the same time i have 10 12% of drain...
I have a old 2012 phone a Samsung Y 6102B it is dual too, have used much more than the Moto g... and the Y 6102B on airplane mode all off makes 24 h and only drains 3,5% max 4% of battery...
Way moto G that have a way better hard and soft don't? must be a android or app problem...
...............
following the topic to see if we can find a solution...:fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
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Doesn't sound like the same drain as being tracked in this thread. The drain this thread is about drops battery at least 1.5% per hour.
You may just have a wakelock, root and install wakelock detector app and see what it says in the morning.
Sorry, my description was vague. I only tested with high accuracy mode.
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Could be .. but i still find it weird that it drops from, for example : 92 to 88. And then if i check the graph it drains in the first hour of the airplane mode and the next 6-7 hours it just stays steady on 88% ...
fu*& issue is back was all good until I turned 3G on battery started draining as crazy
if I look in GSam radio pops up as the highest usage, so is this a radio bug now not related to wifi or gps?
i.e. battery goes haywire from 95 to 85 to 73 within hours.
if I look in GSam radio pops up as the highest usage, so is this a radio bug now not related to wifi or gps?
i.e. battery goes haywire from 95 to 85 to 73 within hours.
One thing you could try is to not use GPS for several days on end, and see if the problem goes away . If this problem typically occurs multiple times a day or everyday, that should provide some confidence and that it is indeed something related to the GPS.
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