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mattyyey

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2010
204
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Manchester
Hi everyone.

I'm no-one special, but I have rooted several phones. I usually wait till the ability to revert or not trip a counter (knox in this case, but most stock bootloaders have one these days afaik ). I had some spare time and have been researching for the last few hours getting my facts straight before I attempted anything. I now have root.

I'm only writing this because it wasn't too clear on the forums about rooting without tripping knox, even after some searching and reading the stickies.

I have just rooted my S5 (SM-G900F). I can confirm that the knox counter isnt tripped using a samsung phone info app i found (also double checked in dl mode).

before we start, heres some notes:
- So as far as I understand, towelroot works on more than just the SM-G900F but i suggest you check first.
- Using odin will add to your counter if you flash anything other than stock with it afaik. This was the same for me on the S3 but I had triangle away.
- Installing a custom recovery via odin will add to the knox counter obviously.
- Installing a custom recovery via another method might trip knox.
- Flashing a custom ROM will add to the counter. (couldnt anyway without custom recovery)
- Boot into download mode using VOLDOWN, HOME, POWER and click continue (i suggest un-plugging it) this will show u the counter.
- Quick view the counter with this app: Phone INFO Samsung
-With root access it might be possible to do something that will trip knox, even with it "disabled" by supersu. be careful. :angel:
- apparently if you trip knox, you cannot update the radio. quote from alan shore
- OTA updates will probably remove root
- Most places, if you trip the counter, your warranty is void.
- you can fix s health issuses caused by xposed by editing the build.prop (not sure how same that is with knox)


Heres how I did it:
(0. I actually did a OTA and security policy update check before attempting this.)
1. disable security policy updates (security) and automatic updates (about) in the settings. This is just in case. Updates might remove your root.

2. Download tr.apk from towelroot.com/ by clicking the icon. Please note that when i did this Avast AV flagged it up, which i then disabled and re-downloaded the file. Use at your own risk. I had no problems...

3. Enable Unknown Sources (settings->security), copy the apk to your sdcard install. I again got a flag from avast... i clicked ignore :p

4. Run it. Might take a little while...

5. Install SuperSU from the market.

6. Run super su and let it install the su binaries.

7. Depending on what you want root for, you may wish to disable knox using super su (i intend to use xposed so i did). When I attempted to let it disable knox, it failed. As it instructed, I rebooted and ran it again... all done.

Now I installed root checker and titanium backup and had a play. root works. I rebooted and checked download mode, knox counter : 0x0 root is still there after reboot. all done! Make sure you have read and understand the notes before you go off using root.

I hold no responsibility for any damage or loss of data.
I do not claim to have made anything. a big thanks to all the respective contributing devs, esp chainfire for his never ending development for android, and geohot creator of towelroot for making it all possible.

If you have errors and questions the original thread for towelroot is below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157

That's all folks!
 
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xmun

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Aug 24, 2010
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Confirmed! I tried this on my SM-G900F and:
a) knox was not tripped
b) root installed
c) device status remained official!

Great work!

http://imgur.com/d0pTAb5

Hi everyone.

I'm no-one special, but I have rooted several phones. I usually wait till the ability to revert or not trip a counter (knox in this case, but most stock bootloaders have one these days afaik ). I had some spare time and have been researching for the last few hours getting my facts straight before I attempted anything. I now have root.

I'm only writing this because it wasn't too clear on the forums about rooting without tripping knox, even after some searching and reading the stickies.

I have just rooted my S5 (SM-G900F). I can confirm that the knox counter isnt tripped using a samsung phone info app i found (also double checked in dl mode).

before we start, heres some notes:
- So as far as I understand, towelroot works on more than just the SM-G900F but i suggest you check first.
- Using odin will add to your counter if you flash anything other than stock with it afaik. This was the same for me on the S3 but I had triangle away.
- Installing a custom recovery via odin will add to the knox counter obviously.
- Installing a custom recovery via another method might trip knox. (can anyone help me answer that properly?)
- Flashing a custom ROM will add to the counter. (couldnt easily anyway without custom recovery)
- Boot into download mode using VOLDOWN, HOME, POWER and click continue (i suggest un-plugging it) this will show u the counter.
- Quick view the counter with this app: Phone INFO Samsung
-With root access it might be possible to do something that will trip knox, even with it "disabled" by supersu. be careful. :angel:
- apparently if you trip knox, you cannot update the radio. quote from alan shore
- OTA updates will probably remove root
- Most places, if you trip the counter, your warranty is void.
- you can fix s health issuses caused by xposed by editing the build.prop (not sure how same that is with knox)


Heres how I did it:
(0. I actually did a OTA and security policy update check before attempting this.)
1. disable security policy updates (security) and automatic updates (about) in the settings. This is just in case. Updates might remove your root.

2. Download tr.apk from towelroot.com/ by clicking the icon. Please note that when i did this Avast AV flagged it up, which i then disabled and re-downloaded the file. Use at your own risk. I had no problems...

3. Enable Unknown Sources (settings->security), copy the apk to your sdcard install. I again got a flag from avast... i clicked ignore :p

4. Run it. Might take a little while...

5. Install SuperSU from the market.

6. Run super su and let it install the su binaries.

7. Depending on what you want root for, you may wish to disable knox using super su (i intend to use xposed so i did). When I attempted to let it disable knox, it failed. As it instructed, I rebooted and ran it again... all done.

Now I installed root checker and titanium backup and had a play. root works. I rebooted and checked download mode, knox counter : 0x0 root is still there after reboot. all done! Make sure you have read and understand the notes before you go off using root.

I hold no responsibility for any damage or loss of data.
I do not claim to have made anything. a big thanks to all the respective contributing devs, esp chainfire for his never ending development for android, and geohot creator of towelroot for making it all possible.

That's all folks!
 
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mattyyey

Senior Member
Mar 28, 2010
204
88
Manchester
No this doesn't wipe anything, it just allows things to run with elevated permissions(root apps).

Also been exploring some more... I also now recommend you do a nandroid using online nandroid backup app as it'll do a nandroid without recovery. Then I installed exposed framework and am having fun with that hehe

Also you might wanna install busy box (titanium backup has its own)

Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Premium HD app
 
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Yes you can unroot using super su.The first time I tried it didn't work.so I rebooted and it worked great root checker app confirm that my ph I ne fors not have root access everything looks as if it has never been rooted...thank you to all devs great work root and unroot has never been so easy.....

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    Hi everyone.

    I'm no-one special, but I have rooted several phones. I usually wait till the ability to revert or not trip a counter (knox in this case, but most stock bootloaders have one these days afaik ). I had some spare time and have been researching for the last few hours getting my facts straight before I attempted anything. I now have root.

    I'm only writing this because it wasn't too clear on the forums about rooting without tripping knox, even after some searching and reading the stickies.

    I have just rooted my S5 (SM-G900F). I can confirm that the knox counter isnt tripped using a samsung phone info app i found (also double checked in dl mode).

    before we start, heres some notes:
    - So as far as I understand, towelroot works on more than just the SM-G900F but i suggest you check first.
    - Using odin will add to your counter if you flash anything other than stock with it afaik. This was the same for me on the S3 but I had triangle away.
    - Installing a custom recovery via odin will add to the knox counter obviously.
    - Installing a custom recovery via another method might trip knox.
    - Flashing a custom ROM will add to the counter. (couldnt anyway without custom recovery)
    - Boot into download mode using VOLDOWN, HOME, POWER and click continue (i suggest un-plugging it) this will show u the counter.
    - Quick view the counter with this app: Phone INFO Samsung
    -With root access it might be possible to do something that will trip knox, even with it "disabled" by supersu. be careful. :angel:
    - apparently if you trip knox, you cannot update the radio. quote from alan shore
    - OTA updates will probably remove root
    - Most places, if you trip the counter, your warranty is void.
    - you can fix s health issuses caused by xposed by editing the build.prop (not sure how same that is with knox)


    Heres how I did it:
    (0. I actually did a OTA and security policy update check before attempting this.)
    1. disable security policy updates (security) and automatic updates (about) in the settings. This is just in case. Updates might remove your root.

    2. Download tr.apk from towelroot.com/ by clicking the icon. Please note that when i did this Avast AV flagged it up, which i then disabled and re-downloaded the file. Use at your own risk. I had no problems...

    3. Enable Unknown Sources (settings->security), copy the apk to your sdcard install. I again got a flag from avast... i clicked ignore :p

    4. Run it. Might take a little while...

    5. Install SuperSU from the market.

    6. Run super su and let it install the su binaries.

    7. Depending on what you want root for, you may wish to disable knox using super su (i intend to use xposed so i did). When I attempted to let it disable knox, it failed. As it instructed, I rebooted and ran it again... all done.

    Now I installed root checker and titanium backup and had a play. root works. I rebooted and checked download mode, knox counter : 0x0 root is still there after reboot. all done! Make sure you have read and understand the notes before you go off using root.

    I hold no responsibility for any damage or loss of data.
    I do not claim to have made anything. a big thanks to all the respective contributing devs, esp chainfire for his never ending development for android, and geohot creator of towelroot for making it all possible.

    If you have errors and questions the original thread for towelroot is below:
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157

    That's all folks!
    4
    Confirmed! I tried this on my SM-G900F and:
    a) knox was not tripped
    b) root installed
    c) device status remained official!

    Great work!

    http://imgur.com/d0pTAb5

    Hi everyone.

    I'm no-one special, but I have rooted several phones. I usually wait till the ability to revert or not trip a counter (knox in this case, but most stock bootloaders have one these days afaik ). I had some spare time and have been researching for the last few hours getting my facts straight before I attempted anything. I now have root.

    I'm only writing this because it wasn't too clear on the forums about rooting without tripping knox, even after some searching and reading the stickies.

    I have just rooted my S5 (SM-G900F). I can confirm that the knox counter isnt tripped using a samsung phone info app i found (also double checked in dl mode).

    before we start, heres some notes:
    - So as far as I understand, towelroot works on more than just the SM-G900F but i suggest you check first.
    - Using odin will add to your counter if you flash anything other than stock with it afaik. This was the same for me on the S3 but I had triangle away.
    - Installing a custom recovery via odin will add to the knox counter obviously.
    - Installing a custom recovery via another method might trip knox. (can anyone help me answer that properly?)
    - Flashing a custom ROM will add to the counter. (couldnt easily anyway without custom recovery)
    - Boot into download mode using VOLDOWN, HOME, POWER and click continue (i suggest un-plugging it) this will show u the counter.
    - Quick view the counter with this app: Phone INFO Samsung
    -With root access it might be possible to do something that will trip knox, even with it "disabled" by supersu. be careful. :angel:
    - apparently if you trip knox, you cannot update the radio. quote from alan shore
    - OTA updates will probably remove root
    - Most places, if you trip the counter, your warranty is void.
    - you can fix s health issuses caused by xposed by editing the build.prop (not sure how same that is with knox)


    Heres how I did it:
    (0. I actually did a OTA and security policy update check before attempting this.)
    1. disable security policy updates (security) and automatic updates (about) in the settings. This is just in case. Updates might remove your root.

    2. Download tr.apk from towelroot.com/ by clicking the icon. Please note that when i did this Avast AV flagged it up, which i then disabled and re-downloaded the file. Use at your own risk. I had no problems...

    3. Enable Unknown Sources (settings->security), copy the apk to your sdcard install. I again got a flag from avast... i clicked ignore :p

    4. Run it. Might take a little while...

    5. Install SuperSU from the market.

    6. Run super su and let it install the su binaries.

    7. Depending on what you want root for, you may wish to disable knox using super su (i intend to use xposed so i did). When I attempted to let it disable knox, it failed. As it instructed, I rebooted and ran it again... all done.

    Now I installed root checker and titanium backup and had a play. root works. I rebooted and checked download mode, knox counter : 0x0 root is still there after reboot. all done! Make sure you have read and understand the notes before you go off using root.

    I hold no responsibility for any damage or loss of data.
    I do not claim to have made anything. a big thanks to all the respective contributing devs, esp chainfire for his never ending development for android, and geohot creator of towelroot for making it all possible.

    That's all folks!
    3
    Hi there guys, Ive bought a S5 a couple of months ago and now want to root. I have tried Towelroot but my updates are to recent to root it this way i guess. Now I have got the following setup:

    Model phone: SM-G900F
    Current installed baseband/Samsung Stock ROM: G900FXXU1ANG2

    I want to install this Samsung Stock ROM: G900FXXU1ANH6
    http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=35339

    Is it possible for me to do this (with Odin)? Without or with ROOT acces without
    voiding warranty or the KNOX counter?

    I hope somebody can help me with this issue, I have rooted devices before but the S5 and KNOX are totally new for me,
    thanks in advance!! :D

    NG2 -> no root
    NH6 -> no root

    if you update a stock firmware corresponding to your machine, and flash with Odin Pc or kies
    you will NOT tripp knox

    if you have root on your NG2 and update NH6 over Odin Pc / Kies
    you will lose root
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    Rooting should not be removing the internal memory. (Correct me if I am wrong)

    They should just give you a 'superuser' right for you to be able to modify the system files, etc.

    Sent from my SM-G900F
    2
    No this doesn't wipe anything, it just allows things to run with elevated permissions(root apps).

    Also been exploring some more... I also now recommend you do a nandroid using online nandroid backup app as it'll do a nandroid without recovery. Then I installed exposed framework and am having fun with that hehe

    Also you might wanna install busy box (titanium backup has its own)

    Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Premium HD app