TWERP or Safestrap?

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myotai

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You might have seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/success-downgrading-t3047619/post59263205#post59263205 I managed to relatively seamlessly get my HDX rooted, adds removed and Nova Launcher installed - also using a different lock-screen.

All good, but I am now concious that I should back it up - I know there are scores of threads re TWERP and Safestrap - but can someone offer me a quick bit of advice and I'll run with that?

Is TWERP safe - would defeat the object to risk my machine installing something that has been described in a thread in here as DANGEROUS?

Is there a safe way to backup/restore my current rooted device?

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Mar 9, 2015 at 11:01 AM
First, what OS version do you have?
Second, you don't need to backup, you can do it in case you mess around alot!
Third, TWRP and SafeStrap are completely different, if you can unlock bootloader then install TWRP and you are good to go, if you cannot unlock you could install SafeStrap (only up to 3.2.5 if im not wrong) and you can make a backup to your Stock rom slot.
 
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myotai

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Mar 9, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Using Stock 3.2.8

No other Mods and to be honest not interesting in tweaking anymore - but would like to have a back-up and the ability to restore if needed.

aaronkatrini said:
First, what OS version do you have?
Second, you don't need to backup, you can do it in case you mess around alot!
Third, TWRP and SafeStrap are completely different, if you can unlock bootloader then install TWRP and you are good to go, if you cannot unlock you could install SafeStrap (only up to 3.2.5 if im not wrong) and you can make a backup to your Stock rom slot.
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aaronkatrini

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Mar 9, 2015 at 11:11 AM
TWRP is out of the question, because to install it you need to have an unlocked bootloader (version below 1x.3.2.3).
Safestrap could be possible, I need a moment to check.
But i repeat no need to backup since not interested in tweaking anymore.
 
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Mar 9, 2015 at 11:56 AM
@myotai: There are several apk for backup...
@aaronkatrini
don't confuse people ;)
Safestrap works on 3.2.8
(For proof, i quote from ggow's safestrap Rom for 3.2.8)
I am very proud to bring you HDX Nexus Safestrap ROM. This is for both the Kindle Fire HDX 7" and 8.9" WIFI only variants and brings full AOSP functionality which are using Safestrap. You must be running stock firmware .3.2.4 - 3.2.8
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/development/rom-hdx-nexus-rom-t3024526
 
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myotai

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Mar 9, 2015 at 12:46 PM
So given that I am currently using 3.2.8 with Nova Launcher etc etc...what would be the advantage of using the ROM in the link previously posted?
 
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myotai said:
So...does this mean that I can use it on the HDX using 3.2.8 (Safely)?
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Hi Myotia - just an opinion here; others may have a different view. If your risk tolerance is low, device stable as-is, OTAs blocked (default on 3.2.8) and you won't be tinkering with other HDX builds then I wouldn't install SafeStrap. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with SafeStrap but the installation itself introduces some risks and opens 'opportunities' that many not always be beneficial. Downside is you can't reliably create a FULL system backup of all partitions using tools that run from within Android. Many do a fine job with data and other components but I have been screwed too many times trying to execute a full system restore from a dataset that wasn't created from recovery (TWRP) or via tether. Maybe others have had better luck.

If your main objective is to protect data then there are many fine tools in the Play Store that do that well.
 
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Mar 9, 2015 at 12:52 PM
Davey126 said:
Hi Myotia - just an opinion here; others may have a different view. If your risk tolerance is low, device stable as-is, OTAs blocked (default on 3.2.8) and you won't be tinkering with other HDX builds then I wouldn't install SafeStrap. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with SafeStrap but the installation itself introduces some risks and opens 'opportunities' that many not always be beneficial. Downside is you can't reliably create a FULL system backup of all partitions using tools that run from within Android. Many do a fine job with data and other components but I have been screwed too many times trying to execute a full system restore from a dataset that wasn't created from recovery (TWRP) or via tether. Maybe others have had better luck.

If your main objective is to protect data then there are many fine tools in the Play Store that do that well.
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Thanks for that!

What about Titanium Back Up Pro? Seems to have been a good friend in the past? Is it not as functional without a custom ROM?
 
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myotai said:
What about Titanium Back Up Pro? Seems to have been a good friend in the past? Is it not as functional without a custom ROM?
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Titanium Backup is a great tool! As mentioned, just sharing my own experiences. I have yet to have a restore fail that was captured from recovery (assuming a healthy system). Once you find something that works you tend to stick with it. I haven't tried Titanium on an HDX. Others?
 
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Davey126 said:
Titanium Backup is a great tool! As mentioned, just sharing my own experiences. I have yet to have a restore fail that was captured from recovery (assuming a healthy system). Once you find something that works you tend to stick with it. I haven't tried Titanium on an HDX. Others?
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Titanium backup works great on CM11 for apollo, or nexus 2.0.5 for TWRP or Magic beanz 1.0.1 :good::highfive:
 
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myotai said:
I'll try it on a rooted Stock with 3.2.8 then ;)
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You certainly can try, but consider also that rooted stock isnt fully android compatible, there are several parts of real android system missing, removed by Amazon (or replaced by Fire OS "equivalent"), so is possible something will not work correctly.
I have similar experience with Lightning Launcher, which crashed when I try to add widget on stock rom - response from developer was clear - FireOs is not fully compatible with Android, therefore not supported.
 
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