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Aou

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Back in the days when I was more adventurous with my Infuse 4g, I put together a little project board that allows me to specify resistances between pins 4 and 5 of a Micro-B USB cable. This allowed me to force my phone into Car Dock mode, or act as a USB JIG (for Triangle-Away purposes), or even connect to the phone using UART. I have a TTL 3.3v level conversion on the other end (a nice little FTDI breakout board that provides a USB serial port), and that makes it simple to capture the output of UART while the phone boots. I’ve used this board on my Infuse, my Galaxy S2, and now my new Galaxy S4.

To get it to work this time, I had to connect the RxD, TxD, VCC and GND wires up like usual to the FTDI breakout board, but I had to attach the 619k resistance at a specific timing. Here’s the order:

  • Unplug battery
  • Attach MicroB cable to phone
  • Attach the 4 wires above (easy for me, with dip switches for each)
  • Attach battery
  • Start Putty
  • Attach 619k resistance between 4th/5th pins.
  • Watch the magic

Attached is the UART output from this. Many thanks to AdamOutler and his help with the previous generations of Samsung devices. Hope this somehow helps in the efforts to obtain root. Let me know if there's anything special you'd like me to try. ;)
 

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I've been trying various resistances, and I can't seem to get to an SBL prompt. I'm wondering if this is because the bootloader is locked? If anyone has different results, please let us know how you did it. (thanks)
 

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Any way I could get someone with some wiring experience to check out what we've got going on with the Samsung Infuse car dock on this thread? Trying to figure out why the Infuse car dock worked on the Skyrocket and SIII for me personally, but not the S4 - won't put it in car dock mode and won't charge the device.... if someone knew where the wires were supposed to be run, I have a spare base with a plug on it that's not attached to the mount that I can hack up, provided this isn't something too intense for me to get involved in! I can do a good bit of customizing when it comes to cars and car electronics, but I don't have all the cool tools it sounds like some of you have!

Thanks in advance for any insight you can bring to this discussion!
 

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Any way I could get someone with some wiring experience to check out what we've got going on with the Samsung Infuse car dock on this thread? Trying to figure out why the Infuse car dock worked on the Skyrocket and SIII for me personally, but not the S4 - won't put it in car dock mode and won't charge the device.... if someone knew where the wires were supposed to be run, I have a spare base with a plug on it that's not attached to the mount that I can hack up, provided this isn't something too intense for me to get involved in! I can do a good bit of customizing when it comes to cars and car electronics, but I don't have all the cool tools it sounds like some of you have!

Thanks in advance for any insight you can bring to this discussion!
I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275

However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
 
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I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275

However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
Well damn, I'm not the only one scratching their heads at this then, that's kind of good news! Thank you for testing, and you're right, I think once we have a little more answers, we'll be on to something here for sure!

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I set my jig-board to 619k exactly and provided it with vcc5v and a ground, and it does not charge and does not give car dock mode at all. For older Samsung devices, I always referenced:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275

However, it seems the hardware might have changed? The older handsets have the fsa9480 ... perhaps one of our hardware-oriented devs could tell us what the S4 has inside? Might point us in the right direction to get the same list of modes/resistances ...
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S4+Teardown/13947/1
Starting at step 14 they get into a detailed look at the hardware on board. Maybe this can help answer some questions for you.

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Here's what one of the guys from iBolt has to say about the dock, collected from two threads regarding the Infuse dock:

The Infuse Dock can't be used with the Galaxy S4 no matter what. This has to do with the fact that Samsung has changed the pin-out configuration when moving to the "new platform" so there's no technical way (to the best of our knowledge) to get it to charge or to start the car-mode. Not sure if this helps?
Kryptos, as you probably saw in my reply on the other thread I unfortunately think the Infuse Dock is dead. Samsung have changed both the firmware and the pin-out so it neither charges nor is the traditional car-mode present anymore. As Samsung is not building their own OEM car dock it was probably not on the "checklist" so they simply skipped integrating the functionality. We've obviously figured out a solution and we are hard at work bringing a bunch of developers with us so they make their apps compatible with our Dock. We all can benefit from not only "DockMode" (as we simply call it henceforth) and the nice "aux-out" through microUSB, that is in my opinion a much bigger deal then anything they presented as "new feature" when introducing the S4. Hope this answers helps?
So I ended up ordered the iBolt xProDock from Amazon, don't worry about replying to the PM I send you Aou since we really don't have any testing to do on the iBolt or modifying to do on the Infuse dock - it is dead and I don't think I'm prepared to even try and revive it!