Question UK ONLY - do you have oem unlock available?

Do you have oem unlock available in developer settings?


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GeckoFire

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This is how I put it to them.

"Hi. I have just bought a £1400 Galaxy S23 ultra.
I would like to unlock the bootloader....but the toggle is missing from Developer Options.
This is because it is locked using KnoxGuard.
I would like this lock to be lifted, so that I can unlock my bootloader.
Please remove KnoxGuard (active) from my device.

The details of my phone are below.

Red S23Ultra, 512\12gb.
S918B\DS"

They immediately understood what I wanted.
It's the day for unlocking, mine was done today.
 

goRt

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This is how I put it to them.

"Hi. I have just bought a £1400 Galaxy S23 ultra.
I would like to unlock the bootloader....but the toggle is missing from Developer Options.
This is because it is locked using KnoxGuard.
I would like this lock to be lifted, so that I can unlock my bootloader.
Please remove KnoxGuard (active) from my device.

The details of my phone are below.

Red S23Ultra, 512\12gb.
S918B\DS"

They immediately understood what I wanted.
It took me 4 different people in the exec office to find a good one.
I guess we've done the hard work to make your life easy
 

GeckoFire

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Hopefully the exec office can pass on the process to the support team. I'm glad it's done but it should be straightforward thing.
 
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dezborders

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I was told today by the executive office (4 weeks in) that all direct phones have KG active (even though we don't think that's the case)
When mine ships it will be locked and Samsung will look into it
For what it's worth here my experience

Samsung UK direct purchase did not have oem unlock option - Returned phone to Samsung for refund

Bought an EE UK network branded one on Facebook cheap - OEM unlock is there from day one
 
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relax24

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The lock is below the operating system level so factory resets have no impact
Not true. As you know I was the first to get them to unlock it. It reappeared as soon as I reset. Now I noticed after 2 system updates it appeared again and the subsequently disappeared. Not that I care anymore, but it's good to see others getting theirs unlocked. Hopefully it sticks but I wouldn't risk factory resetting just in case.
 

goRt

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Not true. As you know I was the first to get them to unlock it. It reappeared as soon as I reset. Now I noticed after 2 system updates it appeared again and the subsequently disappeared. Not that I care anymore, but it's good to see others getting theirs unlocked. Hopefully it sticks but I wouldn't risk factory resetting just in case.
But when you OEM unlock and then unlock the bootloader that performs a factory reset. In your proposition that would then remove OEM unlock.
My view is that Knoxguard has to operate before the bootloader or it wouldn't offer the enterprise security and control required
 

relax24

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But when you OEM unlock and then unlock the bootloader that performs a factory reset. In your proposition that would then remove OEM unlock.
My view is that Knoxguard has to operate before the bootloader or it wouldn't offer the enterprise security and control required
You're right but I can only tell you my experience. Perhaps if you unlock it and then do the factory reset in Download mode as per normal then it stays? Who knows. I still don't have oem unlock back and I had it remotely done ages ago.
 
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    It will not work for a phone bought in America. Why ... I do not know. It's your phone ... if you want to reduce the security of your phone and put modified software from some geek...or hacker on your phone ..do it
    What are you doing on this forum with this kind of mindset? lmao
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    I got confused a little bit. I don't have the OEM unlocking toggle (row) above Running services in my S23U Developer Options.

    Does this mean that if I change the SIM card I won't be able to use the phone with the new SIM provider? Or is it just for the bootloader. I am not planning to root it for the moment, shall I be concerned?

    I bought it directly from Samsung and so far didn't pay attention to this but I don't want to be limited to a single provider or have other (locking) problems in the future. Also, is contacting [email protected] the only way for getting this removed?
    This is unrelated to any carrier lock
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    What are you doing on this forum with this kind of mindset? lmao
    I used to root and put dodgy software on my phone a lot....but...if you don't root...and you use Shizuku to debloat and an adblocker in Private DNS...you don't really need to root...and trust your security on some geek.
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    I used to root and put dodgy software on my phone a lot....but...if you don't root...and you use Shizuku to debloat and an adblocker in Private DNS...you don't really need to root...and trust your security on some geek.
    LMFAO
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    Last offtopic response, this doesn't or ever work(ed) with the DNS service I want - dns.watch - while this provider works on any other device and is accessible. It also didn't work on my previous phone natively, this is why I used the 'dns changer' app (no root required prior to Android 12/13). Or it may have something to do with the fact I am simultaneously using a firewall that creates a VPN connection and as a result the phone keeps popping messages that it couldn't connect. If Private DNS is off, all connections are fine; if I set it to on with the dns watch parameters, I get disconnected immediately.
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    By the way, I've got a response from Samsung later today acknowledging communication and requesting some more specific details relating to the device. They didn't ask for clarifications which I comprehend as they understood what I wanted and I am currently waiting for my toggle on confirmation.
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    I just spent a total of 97 minutes on the phone to various support departments in Samsung. For the first 75 minutes, the support person didn't even comprehend the problem, telling me after seeing the download mode screenshot that it's waiting for a download that I need to complete, that's why I have the problem!!

    Finally, they gave me a different number to call. The person on the other end of this number comprehended the problem immediately. They gave me clear and unambiguous feedback

    1. Samsung knows about and acknowledges that there is a problem with numerous retail versions of the S23U where Knox Guard is set to Active mode instead of Completed and the bootloader is locked
    2. They will be releasing a software update soon to fix the problem
    3. No, they cannot give an ETA on the software update

    Hope this helps.
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    The next straw clutch is hope for a new firmware. I can see the logic in blocking them till its fully released to stop people selling preorders early
    Not sure if it count! But my wife's S23 got that toggle, both phones arrived two days ago.
    Does your wife want to swap?
    Phones, not husbands ofc. Although I'm open to it
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    Y'all is funny! It almost sounds like waiting 7 days for the phone to unlock is the end of humanity.
    Its a £1000 phone, it should just work out of the box, Its your hardware, you should be able to do what you want

    Its the same situation from this old and very long thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...n950f-fd-oem-unlock-option-available.3673140/

    Some people from various regions have it happening, and some don't. even accross the same region, no one ever found out why.

    Point is, Samsung shouldn't hide this from us, this is your hardware, And Samsung isn't telling us clearly if it unlocks in 168 hours, its all hidden and undocumented...
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    Received my s23u on 7th and no, I still do not have OEM Unlock toggle in developer options

    (I don't WANT oem unlock lol just replying to OP)
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    Again...only guessing...but I would say...per device. The IMEI of both devices are linked during the transaction. When the trade-in phone gets there...they check that it is in the state that you claimed....and log it as received. They then send a request to the Knox team to remove the lock.

    This is me just bashing a guess.....
    Which day of the month does the Knox team work - just the 29th this month???