Question UK ONLY - do you have oem unlock available?
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Seeing how many of you succeeded recently I decided to e-mail them once more. Contacted them on Tuesday and received the confirmation today. Now OEM unlocking is available on my S23U.
If you email the correct address ..you will get quick (ish) results.
It isn't your right to have an unlocked bootloader..(even in Europe).. contrary to the unfounded opinion of others.....but it is your right to have the ability to unlock your bootloader. No legislation at all forbids the initial locking of the bootloader. Any legislation that there is forbids the inability to unlock that bootloader.
Many many people will disagree...but that IS the law. In a sentence.....
A locked bootloader is legal in Europe....but restricting the ability to unlock it is not legal.
Arh I see Mr Archer is still employed with Samsungs Exec CR Team
Very good egg when I have dealt with him.
The law in fact...doesn't give you the right the unlock your bootloader of your brand new device at all.
I've been talking with lawyers about it.
The law actually says that the unlocking your bootloader shouldn't automatically invalidate your warranty. It days that if it can be proven that unlocking it did cause the damage...then the warranty is no longer valid. It does also say that you do have the right to unlock your bootloader...BUT ONLY once the warranty period has lapsed.
Lawyers provide opinions, you need to get a better lawyer as decent ones understand that you cannot contract away your statutory rights, the warranty may or may not become void by bootloader unlocking, but there remains the obligation of fitness for purpose and reasonable expectation of hardware lifetime (5 years as that the software support)
Some lawyers would say so, most decent ones will say some find it disgusting, others find it nice
True. Buy the person I spoke with is a lawyer in the field. No matter what I say... you'll have your own opinion....right or wrong.
As will the lawyer you consulted, so your post should state "their opinion was" and not as a matter of fact
It wasn't their opinion....it was them stating facts read out from the EU Directive 1999/44/CE. It is fact.
You should remind them that they state opinion and that the judge provides the judgement
It isn't his opinion. The law states that you do not have the right to an unlocked bootloader...but you have the right for your device to be damaged by doing so. The only time you have the right to an unlocked bootloader...is when the warranty lapses.
This is fact...written into law. This isn't opinion.
You may be correct on what the law states, but that's not how law common law works - the law of precedence as set by court judgements, not executive dictate.
Separation of powers, the rule of law
Mar 23, 2023
The European Commission has adopted a new set of right to repair rules (PDF) that, among other things, will add electronic devices like smartphones and tablets to a list of goods that must be built with repairability in mind. The Register reports:The new rules will need to be need to be negotiated between the European Parliament and member states before they can be turned into law. If they are, a lot more than just repairability requirements will change. One provision will require companies selling consumer goods in the EU to offer repairs (as opposed to just replacing a damaged device) free of charge within a legal guarantee period unless it would be cheaper to replace a damaged item. Beyond that, the directive also adds a set of rights for device repairability outside of legal guarantee periods that the EC said will help make repair a better option than simply tossing a damaged product away.
According to to the above the EU member states have to agree on the rules before they become law. If it's not law your just blowing gas and hot air and have no legal case in court to demand an unlocked bootloader. If they unlock it for you great but if it's not written into Law then Samsung isn't obligated to give you squat.
The European Commission has adopted a new set of right to repair rules (PDF) that, among other things, will add electronic devices like smartphones and tablets to a list of goods that must be built with repairability in mind. The Register reports:The new rules will need to be need to be negotiated between the European Parliament and member states before they can be turned into law. If they are, a lot more than just repairability requirements will change. One provision will require companies selling consumer goods in the EU to offer repairs (as opposed to just replacing a damaged device) free of charge within a legal guarantee period unless it would be cheaper to replace a damaged item. Beyond that, the directive also adds a set of rights for device repairability outside of legal guarantee periods that the EC said will help make repair a better option than simply tossing a damaged product away.
According to to the above the EU member states have to agree on the rules before they become law. If it's not law your just blowing gas and hot air and have no legal case in court to demand an unlocked bootloader. If they unlock it for you great but if it's not written into Law then Samsung isn't obligated to give you squat.
2 emails later I now have the OEM unlock..
although I am not going to unlock the bootloader yet as I dont see any reason to, no custom rom development happening.TrOjAn
Nice one. It took a while...and because I have settled into the phone without root...I realised that I don't even need to root.2 emails later I now have the OEM unlock..
TrOjAn
I can debloat using Shizuku and Package Manager.
I have system wide adblocking using NextDNS in my Private DNS setting.
I have Ad free YouTube using NewPipe.
The only real losses are....
full app and data backing up with Swift backup. (Before the keyboard warriors start....Swift Backup can also be used with Shizuku....but it doesn't work with app data. That is a root only thing.)
And no more Pixelifying Google Photos for free photo backups.
Meh....
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9I just spent a total of 97 minutes on the phone to various support departments in Samsung. For the first 75 minutes, the support person didn't even comprehend the problem, telling me after seeing the download mode screenshot that it's waiting for a download that I need to complete, that's why I have the problem!!
Finally, they gave me a different number to call. The person on the other end of this number comprehended the problem immediately. They gave me clear and unambiguous feedback
- Samsung knows about and acknowledges that there is a problem with numerous retail versions of the S23U where Knox Guard is set to Active mode instead of Completed and the bootloader is locked
- They will be releasing a software update soon to fix the problem
- No, they cannot give an ETA on the software update
Hope this helps.5The next straw clutch is hope for a new firmware. I can see the logic in blocking them till its fully released to stop people selling preorders early
Does your wife want to swap?
Phones, not husbands ofc. Although I'm open to it4
Its a £1000 phone, it should just work out of the box, Its your hardware, you should be able to do what you want
Its the same situation from this old and very long thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...n950f-fd-oem-unlock-option-available.3673140/
Some people from various regions have it happening, and some don't. even accross the same region, no one ever found out why.
Point is, Samsung shouldn't hide this from us, this is your hardware, And Samsung isn't telling us clearly if it unlocks in 168 hours, its all hidden and undocumented...3
Which day of the month does the Knox team work - just the 29th this month???3Received my s23u on 7th and no, I still do not have OEM Unlock toggle in developer options
(I don't WANT oem unlock lol just replying to OP)
