Question UK ONLY - do you have oem unlock available?

Do you have oem unlock available in developer settings?


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Menergy

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Just my heads up, today in the afternoon I've received reply from Samsung to reboot my device and got the toggle appear in dev. options. Hopefully software updates don't make it disappear or Samsung themselves decide to disable it.

And saying so having had to deal with product after-sale support, especially IT quite a while, this to a certain extent restores my faith in humanity and corporations in particular. It on their side may be just deleting an entry or changing a line but they still do it as they simply may decide not to. Like, everyone's raising their prices, each new generation is x2 the previous one, we'll remove everything they (customers for decades) took for granted (full flat rectangular uncut/unrestricted screen where you can fit icons including at each single edge, SD card, audio jack, IR, charger..., even cables) and they will still buy from us because HTC, LG, Nokia, Motorola and Sony are gone/on the way, and it's the perfect oligopoly where if you want the latest generation there are just a few and becoming even less.

Hopefully they keep going and unlock this for everyone affected. Please contact them.
 
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pjaysnowden

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Just my heads up, today in the afternoon I've received reply from Samsung to reboot my device and got the toggle appear in dev. options. Hopefully software updates don't make it disappear or Samsung themselves decide to disable it.

And saying so having had to deal with product after-sale support, especially IT quite a while, this to a certain extent restores my faith in humanity and corporations in particular. It on their side may be just deleting an entry or changing a line but they still do it as they simply may decide not to. Like, everyone's raising their prices, each new generation is x2 the previous one, we'll remove everything they (customers for decades) took for granted (full flat rectangular uncut/unrestricted screen where you can fit icons including at each single edge, SD card, audio jack, IR, charger..., even cables) and they will still buy from us because HTC, LG, Nokia, Motorola and Sony are gone/on the way, and it's the perfect oligopoly where if you want the latest generation there are just a few and becoming even less.

Hopefully they keep going and unlock this for everyone affected. Please contact them.
Good for you mate. Glad it went well.
After two firmware updates...my toggle is still there.
I still haven't toggled it...because I won't be rooting my phone again. Most of what I used to root for is doable without root.

The only thing I don't have is unlimited Google Photos storage....which is technically stealing anyway.
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Menergy

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Most likely I won't be rooting it too, however have concerns about dozens of coming with the phone and unwanted Samsung apps and third party plugins that are inaccessible, settings cannot be changed, cannot be disabled or uninstalled (including with App Ops). For example a Facebook plugin which has root access to anything above it, i.e. can track secondary apps installed at OS level. I don't even have a Facebook account (deleted it years ago), but this is not about Facebook, it's about full tracking/spying control over your phone, i.e. whatever they cannot grab out via the Google framework will be taken via other system-level plugins or services in a simultaneous manner all at once. They apparently know many consumers use firewalls disabling internet connectivity including of system apps so let all tracking enabled by default (for your own protection, haha); and many people don't care so they are geofenced 100% of the time, profiled, recorded, even electronically jammed and funneled as far it concerns accessed content.

This is why I need OEM unlocking as I am sure Google (and partners) will go more agressive and disable existing ways for interfering with default settings along with the OEMs with future Android versions. By the way, you can block ads on apps over the Google framework via certain system services, have used this since Android 7 sucessfully without DNS change. The DNS change is for something else, unblocking the Internet and keeping others apart from the ISP away. This is why I always went for providers claiming no logs and DNSSEC (how true this actually is is another question). Because if we ourselves do not care about our rights to be FREE people, no one will.
 

pjaysnowden

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Most likely I won't be rooting it too, however have concerns about dozens of coming with the phone and unwanted Samsung apps and third party plugins that are inaccessible, settings cannot be changed, cannot be disabled or uninstalled (including with App Ops). For example a Facebook plugin which has root access to anything above it, i.e. can track secondary apps installed at OS level. I don't even have a Facebook account (deleted it years ago), but this is not about Facebook, it's about full tracking/spying control over your phone, i.e. whatever they cannot grab out via the Google framework will be taken via other system-level plugins or services in a simultaneous manner all at once. They apparently know many consumers use firewalls disabling internet connectivity including of system apps so let all tracking enabled by default (for your own protection, haha); and many people don't care so they are geofenced 100% of the time, profiled, recorded, even electronically jammed and funneled as far it concerns accessed content.

This is why I need OEM unlocking as I am sure Google (and partners) will go more agressive and disable existing ways for interfering with default settings along with the OEMs with future Android versions. By the way, you can block ads on apps over the Google framework via certain system services, have used this since Android 7 sucessfully without DNS change. The DNS change is for something else, unblocking the Internet and keeping others apart from the ISP away. This is why I always went for providers claiming no logs and DNSSEC (how true this actually is is another question). Because if we ourselves do not care about our rights to be FREE people, no one will.
You don't need root to disable or remove these apps. Use System Debloater paired with Shizuku....or just use ADB.
I know there are other ways of unblocking ads...but without root...the easiest and least intrusive is via PrivateDNS settings. It works perfectly well...does not require root and it doesn't require extra software to be running.
NextDNS works for me. It is free. There is no logging...and you get silent and blocked....
 
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TrOjAnUK

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Nice one. It took a while...and because I have settled into the phone without root...I realised that I don't even need to root.

I can debloat using Shizuku and Package Manager.
I have system wide adblocking using NextDNS in my Private DNS setting.
I have Ad free YouTube using NewPipe.
The only real losses are....
full app and data backing up with Swift backup. (Before the keyboard warriors start....Swift Backup can also be used with Shizuku....but it doesn't work with app data. That is a root only thing.)
And no more Pixelifying Google Photos for free photo backups.
Meh....
Im with you.... I see no benefits really... the ONLY thing I miss is being able to theme the apps the way I like but Im nearly happy with Samsungs theming.
 
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Menergy

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Not sure if anyone experienced something similar since OEM unlocking but I must check anyway. I've been having some weird battery drain since around the time they unlocked it and so far I haven't fixed it. The stand-by time is horrendous, like the phone is losing about 1% every few minutes. Last night (10PM) it was at about 30% and in the morning (about 7AM) I found it at 14. Rebooted the phone multiple times, turned it off, uninstalled/reinstalled apps with more than 2% battery usage - now these are gone with percentage near zero and only the ones that I actually used when the screen is on appear, however background usage keeps eating the battery.

Previously and what I consider normal is 4-5% loss overnight. The phone was easily holding about 3 days if not heavily used. The only thing that I believe may be consuming more battery overnight is Google Play app updates notification however the phone still keeps losing battery during the day. Today I will go through every single app that is not used daily and put in deep sleep. Anyone experienced something similar? Could it be some system service like WiFi (almost always on but previously it didn't matter as the phone was not getting drained even though it was on)?
 

goRt

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Not sure if anyone experienced something similar since OEM unlocking but I must check anyway. I've been having some weird battery drain since around the time they unlocked it and so far I haven't fixed it. The stand-by time is horrendous, like the phone is losing about 1% every few minutes. Last night (10PM) it was at about 30% and in the morning (about 7AM) I found it at 14. Rebooted the phone multiple times, turned it off, uninstalled/reinstalled apps with more than 2% battery usage - now these are gone with percentage near zero and only the ones that I actually used when the screen is on appear, however background usage keeps eating the battery.

Previously and what I consider normal is 4-5% loss overnight. The phone was easily holding about 3 days if not heavily used. The only thing that I believe may be consuming more battery overnight is Google Play app updates notification however the phone still keeps losing battery during the day. Today I will go through every single app that is not used daily and put in deep sleep. Anyone experienced something similar? Could it be some system service like WiFi (almost always on but previously it didn't matter as the phone was not getting drained even though it was on)?
No issues for me, magisk, Google photos unlimited, ACC for battery charge control
Apps restored using swift backup
 

abdulhamid1978

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Did anyone who did not have OEM unlock toggle receive the option later without having to contact Samsung to enable it?

It looks like 'Sean Archer' from Samsung will only look into my request if purchased directly from Samsung with an associated Samsung order number.
 

sammax71

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Jul 8, 2023
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Does anybody remember how long it took Samsung to deal with their request after sending an email?

I've sent two emails so far about a week apart and heard nothing back. I included all relevant information, order #, serial number, imei etc.
 

Menergy

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About 24 hours, sometimes even less in subsequent e-mails with clarifying details or feedback.

This is a holiday period so if they are short on staff, including in S. Korea or wherever their technical teams are, there may be delays. Hopefully they didn't stop doing this for customers. Also, phone MUST have been purchased directly from Samsung and not via retailers or mobile carriers (at least in my case and from what I read above) and you must reside and use it in the UK as they will check.
 

sammax71

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About 24 hours, sometimes even less in subsequent e-mails with clarifying details or feedback.

This is a holiday period so if they are short on staff, including in S. Korea or wherever their technical teams are, there may be delays. Hopefully they didn't stop doing this for customers. Also, phone MUST have been purchased directly from Samsung and not via retailers or mobile carriers (at least in my case and from what I read above) and you must reside and use it in the UK as they will check.
Phone bought through Samsung and I live in the UK. I used the email link provided in this thread.

Edit: 2nd email did the trick. OEM unlocking appeared this morning.
 
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sammax71

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Has anybody had the experience of OEM Unlock not there so contact Samsung. Then it appears and if you unlock the bootloader the toggle disappears again?

If so any suggestions to get it to appear again? I'm currently on my third email to Samsung.

Edit: OEM Unlock had locked again. Another email to Samsung and they removed the lock again.
 
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hassanhassan

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i just contacted live chat and they told me only an engineer can do it, and since this is not covered by warranty i will be charged for it
 

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    I just spent a total of 97 minutes on the phone to various support departments in Samsung. For the first 75 minutes, the support person didn't even comprehend the problem, telling me after seeing the download mode screenshot that it's waiting for a download that I need to complete, that's why I have the problem!!

    Finally, they gave me a different number to call. The person on the other end of this number comprehended the problem immediately. They gave me clear and unambiguous feedback

    1. Samsung knows about and acknowledges that there is a problem with numerous retail versions of the S23U where Knox Guard is set to Active mode instead of Completed and the bootloader is locked
    2. They will be releasing a software update soon to fix the problem
    3. No, they cannot give an ETA on the software update

    Hope this helps.
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    The next straw clutch is hope for a new firmware. I can see the logic in blocking them till its fully released to stop people selling preorders early
    Not sure if it count! But my wife's S23 got that toggle, both phones arrived two days ago.
    Does your wife want to swap?
    Phones, not husbands ofc. Although I'm open to it
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    Y'all is funny! It almost sounds like waiting 7 days for the phone to unlock is the end of humanity.
    Its a £1000 phone, it should just work out of the box, Its your hardware, you should be able to do what you want

    Its the same situation from this old and very long thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...n950f-fd-oem-unlock-option-available.3673140/

    Some people from various regions have it happening, and some don't. even accross the same region, no one ever found out why.

    Point is, Samsung shouldn't hide this from us, this is your hardware, And Samsung isn't telling us clearly if it unlocks in 168 hours, its all hidden and undocumented...
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    Again...only guessing...but I would say...per device. The IMEI of both devices are linked during the transaction. When the trade-in phone gets there...they check that it is in the state that you claimed....and log it as received. They then send a request to the Knox team to remove the lock.

    This is me just bashing a guess.....
    Which day of the month does the Knox team work - just the 29th this month???
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    Received my s23u on 7th and no, I still do not have OEM Unlock toggle in developer options

    (I don't WANT oem unlock lol just replying to OP)