Question Unlimited Native Hotspot (T-Mobile)

[Strawboy]

Hi,

I just got a OnePlus 10 Pro. I haven't yet activated it and gotten in yet, but I'm also moving to T-mobile from Sprint/T-Mobile.

The plan I'll be on has a 5GB hotspot allowance. I'd like to set my phone up to bypass the hotspot allowance and treat it has normal data use from my phone.

Can anyone help direct me in how to do this? The phone is unlocked, and I'm guessing I'll need to root it first, but any help from anyone on how to get this going would be great.

Thanks.

 

[dladz]

Sounds like another t mobile limitation..

Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.

There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..

I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..

Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...

There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself

 

[craznazn]

Sounds like another t mobile limitation..

Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.

There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..

I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..

Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...

There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself

Eh, clearly you are not from the US

T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.

Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.

 

[daniel081483]

Sounds like another t mobile limitation..

Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.

There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..

I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..

Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...

There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself

So line Google's pockets?

 

[dladz]

Eh, clearly you are not from the US

T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.

Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.

Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...

No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.

 

[craznazn]

Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...

No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.

We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.

 

[g96818]

i use pdanet+

 

[dladz]

We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.

I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.

 

[craznazn]

I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.

Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.

And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.

OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.

 

[g96818]

Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.

And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.

OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.

last i used it, pdanet+ has a module to block t-mobile, but you need to use it in tether mode. it's been a while since i needed to tether, buy looks like it might work via wifi now.

 

[dladz]

Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.

And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.

OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.

You need to chill lad...

T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.

Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??

Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal

My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you? They do not offer a SIM free device, here in the UK we used to have EE do the same thing with mobile hotspot when it was called T-mobile then they need with orange.

People just stopped using them for that reason, it promoted the other networks like Three and even Vodafone. Soon as the then merged companies realised this they stopped doing it, as well as locking down bootloaders.. So the answer to the question is to swerve them believe it or not.

@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..

There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.

 

[g96818]

You need to chill lad...

T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.

Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??

Really?

I do not believe you at all.

My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?

@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..

There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.

the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.

It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.

as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.

 

[dladz]

the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.

It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.

as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.

I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.

Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..

If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...

 

[dladz]

As does t mobile.

3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.

Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.

 

[g96818]

I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.

Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..

If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...

didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.

As does t mobile.

3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.

Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.

I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G

btw, the unlimited i was talking about is without speed reduction.

 

[dladz]

didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.


I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G

If it's there its there give it a whirl.

Tbh they probably do something similar in the UK but just lie to us and say it's "unlimited"

 

[craznazn]

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As does t mobile.

3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.

Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.

Holy spirit man, not only do you not know the answer to the OP's question other than aimlessly suggesting "magisk module", you decide to go to arms about market environments that you know nothing about. I don't tell you what's what in the UK, and you don't get to spread misguided misinformation for the US market.

"T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with."
No, I've already stated this. Both ATT and VZW in the US lock their swans down more than TMO. TMO is by far the most dev friendly carrier if you wanted to get a carrier device. Buy manufacturer unlocked if you must, but if you want carrier deals, you are going to have the best option with TMO.

"My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?"
The phone is free or nearly free, that's why people put up with carrier phones, because of carrier deals. IDK about you, but I'm willing to go through the trouble of hacking up my devices than to pay an additional $800-$1000.

"Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal"
Clueless reps at all 3 carriers will promise the flowering world, esp overseas chat reps. VERIZON DOES NOT EVER SELL SIM FREE, All VZW devices (even fully paid) will be SIM locked for 60 days as an "anti-fraud" measure. This even includes Verizon MVNOs. https://www.verizon.com/support/device-unlocking-policy/
Oh, and good luck ever accessing the bootloader of a VZW device.

"3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh."
"If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine..."
Both offer unlimited at throttled speeds. Don't assume speed based on the technology. 50-100mbps isn't even normal on a good day for VZW LTE or DSS 5G

Verizon: After exceeding 50 GB/mo of 5G Ultra Wideband, 5G Nationwide, or 4G LTE data, you can still use hotspot at lower speeds of 3 Mbps when on 5G Ultra Wideband and 600 Kbps when on 5G Nationwide / 4G LTE for the rest of the month.
T-Mobile: "3G", but it is 600 Kbps on Magenta / Magenta Max

Anyways, the OP's question's been answered, so I'm out. There are plenty of wireless hacking forums out there that can teach you to bypass restrictions that are against XDA rules and generally don't work on phones but other LTE/NR devices, Google it and you'll find it.

 

[Timmmmaaahh!]

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[Strawboy]

Thanks for the replies thus far.

I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.

I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.

I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.

Thanks!

 

[g96818]

Thanks for the replies thus far.

I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.

I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.

I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.

Thanks!

that got patched ages ago, plus you can't access the build prop on this phone.