Unofficial nightlies?????????????

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IFLATLINEI

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I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.

As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
 

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Official is being built by the Cyanogen servers and released at their discretion. The unofficials are users creating their own builds (usually with modifications) and being released separately.

That being said, CM7 has been in development for a while so there are both nightlies and stable releases. CM9 is still in early development, and Cyanogen team hasn't been releasing nightlies yet. The ones you see are users releasing it on their own.
 

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You're either not very smart or a terrible reader. Unofficial simply means private individuals are taking it upon themselves to regularly post private builds that they made themselves, for others to take for a test drive. Official builds would come directly from CM, which has not happened yet.

Get a clue.
 

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Perhaps your highness would be kind and gracious enough to direct us to a place where we could read that explanation (assuming, of course, that we can read such lofty material)..

Tongue firmly in cheek.. but.. hey Dude.. lighten up.
 
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IFLATLINEI

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You're either not very smart or a terrible reader. Unofficial simply means private individuals are taking it upon themselves to regularly post private builds that they made themselves, for others to take for a test drive. Official builds would come directly from CM, which has not happened yet.

Get a clue.

Yep those are the only two possible reasons for me not knowing whats going on.
 

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I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.

As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
I'm kind of confused due to your confusion :)
What "Unofficial Nightly's" and "Official Nightly's" you are seeing?
Don't tell me that you are confusing the Official Nightly's of CM7 and the Unofficial Nightly's of CM9.
Two different things.
 
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IFLATLINEI

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Im sorry! Im trying to keep up with the development of the Nook Color, HTC Droid Eris, and the Galaxy Nexus and I lost it. LOL Not too mention my search for the perfect router to finally rid me of that god awful Linksys WRT54GS combined with the overkill Smoothwall finally ended. My home network has been in shambles till recently. Again I apologize. Its purely my mixup and clearly nothing to do with the information provided at XDA. I just needed to search a bit more. Or I could have asked like I did here but maybe in a more positive tone. Im sorry for that as well.

So I recently purchased the GNEX and I love ICS. OMG I cant tell you how nice it is to finally have a proper smart phone with polished Android Goodness. I want the same for my Nook. From what ive read so far the "Unofficial Builds" seem to run pretty good. Users reporting it runs as good as CM7. Is this true? I mainly use my Nook for watching Netflix and Hulu. I do some light browsing as well. Would the latest build work well enough for me to hop in now?

Thanks for your help and understanding!
 

skwalas

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Im sorry! Im trying to keep up with the development of the Nook Color, HTC Droid Eris, and the Galaxy Nexus and I lost it. LOL Not too mention my search for the perfect router to finally rid me of that god awful Linksys WRT54GS combined with the overkill Smoothwall finally ended. My home network has been in shambles till recently. Again I apologize. Its purely my mixup and clearly nothing to do with the information provided at XDA. I just needed to search a bit more. Or I could have asked like I did here but maybe in a more positive tone. Im sorry for that as well.

So I recently purchased the GNEX and I love ICS. OMG I cant tell you how nice it is to finally have a proper smart phone with polished Android Goodness. I want the same for my Nook. From what ive read so far the "Unofficial Builds" seem to run pretty good. Users reporting it runs as good as CM7. Is this true? I mainly use my Nook for watching Netflix and Hulu. I do some light browsing as well. Would the latest build work well enough for me to hop in now?

Thanks for your help and understanding!
Awesome. Reading comprehension skills FTW.

CM9 is nice. Personally, I'd wait for solid wifi and any true resolution on HW accel.
 

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CM7 had 'official' stable releases and 'official' nightlies built by the CyanogenMod automated build process. The last stable was 7.1 but there were nightlies after that which continued to fix some remaining problems.

Back in mid November 2011 the build process suffered from some hardware failures and the nightlies stopped appearing. At the same time ICS was being released and the devs switched their attention to that (CM9) and, although the build process got repaired, the CM7 nightlies were never restarted.

There were some outstanding issues in CM7 that had got fixed but never built by the official process into either a stable or a nightly. That is where the 'unofficial' builds stepped in and built new ROMS from the source incorporating the latest fixes and including some other improvements. The most common of these is the MiRaGe build found in the thread in development and that has been very stable, gives great performance and is often referred to as 7.2

CM9 is effectively still in an alpha form and does not have official nightlies or 'stables' yet. The developers did encourage people to learn how to build ROMS from the source and some have now made these 'unofficial' nightlies available.

Some find these unofficial CM9 nightlies good and stable enough for daily use; I am one. There are trade offs; the CM7 ROMS are generally a bit snappier in performance and there are one or two limitations in CM9 functionality (e.g. hw video acceleration) but this is balanced by a significantly nicer user interface and functionality in CM9. You just choose based on what is important to you.

Nandroid backups are always your friend and allows you try out various options at low risk and just a few minutes to fully restore to a former point.
 

IFLATLINEI

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Thanks for the summary and info.

But how well does Hulu and Netflix work? Right now thats the most important thing.

Im currently running CM7 stable with the processor clocked at 925. I see alot of people running overclock kernels so when you say CM9 isnt as snappy to which are you comparing to. Low end or high?
 

biohazrd51

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Either. I'm running CM9 at 1200 right now and there is still lag (haven't done any tweaks though, working on other things). Besides that, I don't think Netflix is working on CM9 yet. If you are wanting stability, smoothness, and more application compatibility, CM9 isn't quite there yet.
 

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It's funny how the people calling the OP clueless seem blissfully unaware of the situation with nightlies the last few months, but bobtidey broke it down well. The automated system for CM7 nightlies is broken, but the updated source is still available, and some people are sharing their builds from source (MiRaGe being the most reliable atm).

If Hulu and Netflix are your priorities, CM9 is probably not for you just yet. You can try it out a number of ways,
  1. As bobtidey said, back up your current build, flash CM9, and if you're not happy go back.
  2. Set it up on SD--there's a link in my sig for that, just grab CM9 and a compatible gapps instead of CM7.
  3. Repartition the NC and set up a dual boot like mine (also linked in my sig) with MiRaGe's CM7.2 and Samiam's CM9.

If you just want a fresher flavor and don't want to mess around too much, I'd say go w/ MiRaGe's build.
 
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IFLATLINEI

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Blah! It is what it is. As stated things have been pretty hectic around here. Now that I think of it things are always hectic. So I overlooked something and needed correction.

I just may dual boot. Ive wanted to try MiRaGe for awhile now anyways. I hear great things. Should be a nice upgrade over CM7 stable right? Thanks for info!
 

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    CM7 had 'official' stable releases and 'official' nightlies built by the CyanogenMod automated build process. The last stable was 7.1 but there were nightlies after that which continued to fix some remaining problems.

    Back in mid November 2011 the build process suffered from some hardware failures and the nightlies stopped appearing. At the same time ICS was being released and the devs switched their attention to that (CM9) and, although the build process got repaired, the CM7 nightlies were never restarted.

    There were some outstanding issues in CM7 that had got fixed but never built by the official process into either a stable or a nightly. That is where the 'unofficial' builds stepped in and built new ROMS from the source incorporating the latest fixes and including some other improvements. The most common of these is the MiRaGe build found in the thread in development and that has been very stable, gives great performance and is often referred to as 7.2

    CM9 is effectively still in an alpha form and does not have official nightlies or 'stables' yet. The developers did encourage people to learn how to build ROMS from the source and some have now made these 'unofficial' nightlies available.

    Some find these unofficial CM9 nightlies good and stable enough for daily use; I am one. There are trade offs; the CM7 ROMS are generally a bit snappier in performance and there are one or two limitations in CM9 functionality (e.g. hw video acceleration) but this is balanced by a significantly nicer user interface and functionality in CM9. You just choose based on what is important to you.

    Nandroid backups are always your friend and allows you try out various options at low risk and just a few minutes to fully restore to a former point.
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    Official is being built by the Cyanogen servers and released at their discretion. The unofficials are users creating their own builds (usually with modifications) and being released separately.

    That being said, CM7 has been in development for a while so there are both nightlies and stable releases. CM9 is still in early development, and Cyanogen team hasn't been releasing nightlies yet. The ones you see are users releasing it on their own.
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    Perhaps your highness would be kind and gracious enough to direct us to a place where we could read that explanation (assuming, of course, that we can read such lofty material)..

    Tongue firmly in cheek.. but.. hey Dude.. lighten up.
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    I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.

    As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
    I'm kind of confused due to your confusion :)
    What "Unofficial Nightly's" and "Official Nightly's" you are seeing?
    Don't tell me that you are confusing the Official Nightly's of CM7 and the Unofficial Nightly's of CM9.
    Two different things.
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    It's funny how the people calling the OP clueless seem blissfully unaware of the situation with nightlies the last few months, but bobtidey broke it down well. The automated system for CM7 nightlies is broken, but the updated source is still available, and some people are sharing their builds from source (MiRaGe being the most reliable atm).

    If Hulu and Netflix are your priorities, CM9 is probably not for you just yet. You can try it out a number of ways,
    1. As bobtidey said, back up your current build, flash CM9, and if you're not happy go back.
    2. Set it up on SD--there's a link in my sig for that, just grab CM9 and a compatible gapps instead of CM7.
    3. Repartition the NC and set up a dual boot like mine (also linked in my sig) with MiRaGe's CM7.2 and Samiam's CM9.

    If you just want a fresher flavor and don't want to mess around too much, I'd say go w/ MiRaGe's build.