US Touch Pro 2 Unlocked

[Lyian]

Anyone know if they will be releasing an unlocked version for the US carriers? I would get the European version myself, as 3g isn't a big deal for me, but what gives me concern is the Wall charger doesn't include a US plug. Im sure this is a small deal considering i could proly just buy a standard HTC charger, but im just curious if they will be having an unlocked that will both include the US charger, and work on US 3g networks.

 

[Lyian]

no word yet hua?

 

[jonnyp4l]

Why do you think the European model won't work on U.S. 3G networks?

 

[jonnyp4l]

European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.

As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.

 

[JAlbridge]

European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.

As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.

HTC.com sez...

Network:
HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.) BUT...

3G networks are running the 850Mhz in the U.S. We already knew that the HTC Touch Pro2 would sport 3G frequency support in the 900Mhz and 2100Mhz WCDMA bands, but the 850Mhz WCDMA band isn't yet available.

 

[JAlbridge]

European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.

As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.

I have been on a number of blogs for the TP2 and they are seem to be in agreement that the European TP2 will only work over the EDGE network in US...

Personally, I am currently an iPhone user, but my wife is driving me crazy waiting for this US version!

 

[JAlbridge]

HTC.com sez...

Network:
HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.) BUT...

3G networks are running the 850Mhz in the U.S. We already knew that the HTC Touch Pro2 would sport 3G frequency support in the 900Mhz and 2100Mhz WCDMA bands, but the 850Mhz WCDMA band isn't yet available.

Here is a good story on MSNBC.com on the various 3G standards. It is dated last Sept. but it is still good.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26511322/

 

[shingers5]

uk/europe model will only work on edge in US. devicewire have done a detailed review on a europe model and could only get edge. to get 3g will need to wait for official model for that region.

 

[LordLugard]

European 3G I believe works on the 1900 MHz band (supported by the Touch Pro 2). U.S. 3G operates on the 850 MHz band (also supported by the Touch Pro 2). By technical standards, this should work fine in the U.S. on the 3G band.

As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.

Actually you have it awry. European 3G runs on 2100mhz not 1900. U.S 3G runs on 850/1900mhz.

If you go to HTC's site, the TP2 Euro model will do GSM/GPRS/EDGE on 1900mhz. SO if O.P imports a Euro version, he could use it on EDGE or he could just wait for the AT&T version. T-mobile USA's 3G runs on 1700mhz though.

 

[galaxys]

T-mobile USA's 3G requires both 1700mhz and 2100mhz. Suppose to be hear around July 22nd...

 

[Lyian]

As far as the charger goes, yes, that is a concern. But I don't doubt that somewhere in your house you've got a miniUSB charger lying around. If not, your local Wal-Mart/Target/Radio-Shack/Best Buy will have a million of them.

Standard mini usb cables, yes and i also am aware i can also just charge the thing using the included USB cable. What im asking about is the WALL charger. If HTC uses thier standard USB-mini cable that is on a good chunk of their devices, including the HD/ Tilt/Diamond ect.. im sure finding a US charger wont be that hard.

Also, i was asking about an Unlocked US version, i do not intend to get one though the carrier as i dont want a modified version that they lock down. Nor do i care to wait till the fall when AT&T gets off their duffs to finally release it.

In any event, im just keeping my ear open and seeing what the grapevine heard about it.

 

[jonnyp4l]

Sorry guys. My bad.

I was confusing the specifications thinking that HTC would at least be smart enough to include full support for all markets. I was reading the Quad-Band GSM as support for HSPA/3G bands. I was totally bypassing the HSPA/WCDMA dual-band specification.

Chalk it up to a mix of wishful thinking and childish excitement. That does, however, kick the crap out of my week. Only HTC can bring me down this hard.

 

[Lyian]

Well, I guess ATT got approved for theirs. Now the only question remains is, will their be an unlocked US version that supports 3g? or will we have to get the European version?

 

[xsupercat8000]

I'm in Taiwan for Computex and am so tempted to buy a touch pro 2 here. I would wait for the AT&T version but after seeing they changed the keyboard I want the HTC model. Only reason I haven't picked one up yet is because it only gets edge in the US on AT&T.

Does anyone know if the hardware cannot physically work on at&t's 3g bands or do we just have to wait for the at&t version to come out so the radio can be copied over or something. Thanks!

 

[jonnyp4l]

I'm in Taiwan for Computex and am so tempted to buy a touch pro 2 here. I would wait for the AT&T version but after seeing they changed the keyboard I want the HTC model. Only reason I haven't picked one up yet is because it only gets edge in the US on AT&T.

Does anyone know if the hardware cannot physically work on at&t's 3g bands or do we just have to wait for the at&t version to come out so the radio can be copied over or something. Thanks!

The hardware physically cannot handle it. The Euro/Asian model only supports 3G on the European and Asian bands which are completely different frequencies from the ones used in the U.S. It's definitely not just a matter of software.

And I think we all need to be clear that no one has any idea what the AT&T keyboard will actually look like. The promotional material we have all seen and discussed ad nauseum is a slap-together of the HTC mockup with AT&T's promotional verbage. Even the promotional bullet points list that the "HTC Fortress" has a 5 row keyboard while the mockup picture shows a 4 row keyboard. That picture, at this point, means pretty much nothing at all.

 

[xsupercat8000]

I see, Ill hold off then. Its kinda hard to justify ~$800 on a phone here anyways that doesn't have a warranty in the states. Thanks for the help!

 

[rmk1825]

Will the US Unlocked Version have the secondary VGA camera for video conferencing like the European one does?

What is the advantage of getting a carrier specific phone (AT&T or T-Mobile) as opposed to a US Unlocked phone outside of price?

I'm currently with Sprint and want to switch to a GSM provider.

 

[iodaed]

Will the US Unlocked Version have the secondary VGA camera for video conferencing like the European one does?

no, the us carriers don't support that feature => no front facing camera.
sad but true.

What is the advantage of getting a carrier specific phone (AT&T or T-Mobile) as opposed to a US Unlocked phone outside of price?

the carrier phones usually come with some sort of branding (software: e.g. sprint tv application / hardware: different battery cover, different keyboard layout and so on)
This can either be an advantage or a disadvantage...

 

[galaxys]

What is the advantage of getting a carrier specific phone (AT&T or T-Mobile) as opposed to a US Unlocked phone outside of price?

Having 3G capabilities vs. Edge only!

 

[rmk1825]

no, the us carriers don't support that feature => no front facing camera.
sad but true.

Having 3G capabilities vs. Edge only!

So basically what I was hoping for in terms of a 3G phone with a front facing camera won't happen this round.