Very disappointed in OP3t battery life. Not sure what to do.

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@domsch1988 - I did a factory wipe, without installing BMW / Greenify / ForceDoze or any other battery-improving/monitoring apps. I'm still seeing 1% / hour screen-off battery drain. :(
I have no clue man. This weekend I didn't use the phone much. Haven't charged since saturday evening. All Saturday and Sunday with around 45 minutes of screen time drained around .7% per hour. I'm now at 69% 36 hours in and 1 hour SoT. Including 2 hours of Bluetooth Spotify that's around .8% per hour. All on stock, Franco r12 with magisk root...
 

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Basically, under the Settings >> Buttons section.

To see the OOS 4.0.x menu failure issue, I can set Settings >> Buttons >> Back Button >> Long press action to: Open/Close Menu. Then, if I go to my Nova Launcher default home screen and do a long-press on the Back Button, nothing happens. The failure to bring up the menu options when long-pressing the Back Button occurs in other apps, too.
Yes It works on freedom rom.


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Sorry that it's taking me a bit to give a feedback on my actual usage. I just can't drain this thing... After the first days of constant playing with the new toy, I'm back to normal. Currently 2 days 13 hours in with 4.5 hours SoT and still 16% left. Unreal :D
 

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Yes It works on freedom rom.

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Hi, @rapboy91 - I tried Freedom ROM v1.3, and the "Open / Close Menu" button doesn't work properly. I run Nova Launcher, and nothing happens (no menu pop-up) when I long-press my Recents Button to activate the Open / Close Menu button. It doesn't open menus on many other apps, either - so, it fails exactly the same way as OOS 4.0.3. The Open / Close Menu works fine on TugaPower, so somebody figured out the fix.

Anyways, I decided to give Freedom ROM a shot to see if my battery drain would improve. Unfortunately, I saw over 1% per hour drain, and I really went for a pretty minimal system / app installation. (I like the options that Freedom provided!) Were there any phone settings (Location, Wifi, etc.) or kernel mods that you made to your installation?
 

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What i found was the app u asked to check for mA is the problem? after i uninstalled it, accubattery showed only < 30mA (with ForzeDoze and Greenity). I didnt enable Aggressive doze from Greenify cuz it looked llike have a conflict with foceDoze when i tried both.
 

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Hi, @rapboy91 - I tried Freedom ROM v1.3, and the "Open / Close Menu" button doesn't work properly. I run Nova Launcher, and nothing happens (no menu pop-up) when I long-press my Recents Button to activate the Open / Close Menu button. It doesn't open menus on many other apps, either - so, it fails exactly the same way as OOS 4.0.3. The Open / Close Menu works fine on TugaPower, so somebody figured out the fix.

Anyways, I decided to give Freedom ROM a shot to see if my battery drain would improve. Unfortunately, I saw over 1% per hour drain, and I really went for a pretty minimal system / app installation. (I like the options that Freedom provided!) Were there any phone settings (Location, Wifi, etc.) or kernel mods that you made to your installation?
Lmao bro!! Are you for real?! So battery isn't normal because your dropping 1% every our ? Oh my.....I was wondering why this thread was still going. You need to calm down. Your battery life is more than likely normal. Your just to anal about it. That's your problem

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Lmao bro!! Are you for real?! So battery isn't normal because your dropping 1% every our ? Oh my.....I was wondering why this thread was still going. You need to calm down. Your battery life is more than likely normal. Your just to anal about it. That's your problem

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@nano303 - "Are you for real?" Money may not be important to you, but I don't want to throw down $800 to $1000 dollars every other year for two new family phones. If I can get an extra year or two out of our phones by significantly reducing the number of discharge / charge cycles, that's more money in my pocket, and I'm going to do whatever I can to get that. The OP3T has the worst standby battery performance I've seen in years for all our recent - and current - Android devices, hands down. Standby battery performance is one of the important things I look for in a phone, since it means less battery charging and a longer product life. Every other Android device I have owned (and still own) for the last 4 years has had a battery drain of < 0.3% per hour when sleeping. Why shouldn't the OP3T be seeing the similar standby performance as my nearly 3-year-old OPO?

The OP3T SoC is using a much smaller gate size than the OPO (14 um on the SD 821 vs. 28 um on the SD 801), and the OP3T's 821 Snapdragon uses a big.LITTLE CPU architecture (The OPO 801 SoC doesn't), both of which should result in noticeably lower power drain - both in general usage and in standby mode. Is it that unrealistic for me to want to get similar battery life out of my new OP3T vs. all our other devices?

I ran a test, I can't even get < 1% / hour battery drain on my OP3T when I have the phone in Airplane Mode. To me, that's pretty ridiculous. On my Fire Tablet, I see < 1% drain per day in Airplane Mode.

Other forum participants have mentioned that they have seen < 0.2% / hour overnight when in standby mode. I'm just asking for their help to achieve the same performance that they see - Not an unrealistic request at all.
 
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heres my 2 cents , i'm on 4.0.3 received the phone two days ago, flashed freedomrom noticed battery drain, clean flashed freedom rom again, didn't install any apps and let it sit for 3 hours and i lost 15% .

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OP has NEVER, EVER owed an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy . If your biggest complain is standby/idle time that alone kills the edge on new nougat in 3 days. And BTW it's a $440 phone...IM plannin On keeping my OnePlus and get the S8+

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Standby drain? Where is it?
I have been using from last day, with 1 hour 30 minute of music with screen off.
1 hour hotspot with screen off.
And 40 mins calls offcpurse with screen off.
Rest see the screen on time and idle battery drain.
There are always some app or something else which is the culprit in battery drain.
Not the phone's fault.
Most phone's with less ram come down hard on aps and kill them, but op3 doesn't do that and hence more wakelocks.
 

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I don't lose much if any when the screen is off. No special tricks or anything at all. First phone out of all my other phones that simply sleeps when i turn off the screen.
 
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I lose about 8 percent overnight, over a 7 hr span. The one Android that had stellar standby drain was the pixel XL. I would lose 2-3% overnight.

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OP has NEVER, EVER owed an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy . If your biggest complain is standby/idle time that alone kills the edge on new nougat in 3 days. And BTW it's a $440 phone...IM plannin On keeping my OnePlus and get the S8+

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Hi, @nano303 - The OP currently has a 1+ year-old work iPhone and currently owns a Samsung Galaxy Tab S.

My iPhone 6S loses about 3% a day when unused (I'm still on OSX 9.x due to work requirements. I heard that OSX 10 has new battery issues). I don't really care how much battery my iPhone uses, since I don't use it much (not sure why people think Apple phones are so great - they certainly aren't easier to use, and almost always require more button presses than Android to do the same thing). Work will replace it eventually, so not a big deal. However, I did do some setting adjustments to the un-jailbreakable iPhone to get better battery life so it would comfortably make it through the day.

My 2+ year old Samsung Galaxy Tab S is running Schischu's excellent Marshmallow ROM, and currently loses < 2% a day when unused.

I did have a Galaxy S3 a while back, and it took a few ROMs before better battery life came along. Fortunately, the Galaxy S3 had an easily replaceable battery, so battery drain wasn't as much of a concern.

What I have discovered is that when mobile phones aren't designed with user battery replacement, very few - or, no - options exist for purchasing a quality replacement battery. There aren't any quality OnePlus One replacement BLP571 batteries available in the US (though, there is apparently one manufacturer in Germany who doesn't ship to the US). So, fully-functional mobile phones get thrown away for the most unnecessary reason of all: the battery died. The OP3T has really good hardware (if this battery thing gets figured out). If I could keep ours running and just replace the battery every 3-4 years, that would be great - I don't think there are any real hardware upgrades in the future that would incentivize me to replace.

Yep - The OP3T is a $440 phone. So, as I mentioned above, I buy two phones when family replacements occur: One(Plus) for me, and One(Plus) for my wife. So, that's $880 when we replace. I expect that OnePlus will continue slowly increasing their phone prices as they gain more recognition, so that dollar amount is likely to increase next time.

Now, with regards to getting better standby battery on the OP3T, I have made some progress ... I reinstalled FreedomOS 1.3 for the OP3T, and trimmed things back quite a bit with the Aroma installer to see what is possible for a baseline. I'm seeing about 0.2%/hour battery drain when in standby. I will provide more details and updates later today.
 
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Hi, @nano303 - The OP currently has a 1+ year-old work iPhone and currently owns a Samsung Galaxy Tab S.

My iPhone 6S loses about 3% a day when unused (I'm still on OSX 9.x due to work requirements. I heard that OSX 10 has new battery issues). I don't really care how much battery my iPhone uses, since I don't use it much (not sure why people think Apple phones are so great - they certainly aren't easier to use, and almost always require more button presses than Android to do the same thing). Work will replace it eventually, so not a big deal. However, I did do some setting adjustments to the un-jailbreakable iPhone to get better battery life so it would comfortably make it through the day.

My 2+ year old Samsung Galaxy Tab S is running Schischu's excellent Marshmallow ROM, and currently loses < 2% a day when unused.

I did have a Galaxy S3 a while back, and it took a few ROMs before better battery life came along. Fortunately, the Galaxy S3 had an easily replaceable battery, so battery drain wasn't as much of a concern.

What I have discovered is that when mobile phones aren't designed with user battery replacement, very few - or, no - options exist for purchasing a quality replacement battery. There aren't any quality OnePlus One replacement BLP571 batteries available in the US (though, there is apparently one manufacturer in Germany who doesn't ship to the US). So, fully-functional mobile phones get thrown away for the most unnecessary reason of all: the battery died. The OP3T has really good hardware (if this battery thing gets figured out). If I could keep ours running and just replace the battery every 3-4 years, that would be great - I don't think there are any real hardware upgrades in the future that would incentivize me to replace.

Yep - The OP3T is a $440 phone. So, as I mentioned above, I buy two phones when family replacements occur: One(Plus) for me, and One(Plus) for my wife. So, that's $880 when we replace. I expect that OnePlus will continue slowly increasing their phone prices as they gain more recognition, so that dollar amount is likely to increase next time.

Now, with regards to getting better standby battery on the OP3T, I have made some progress ... I reinstalled FreedomOS 1.3 for the OP3T, and trimmed things back quite a bit with the Aroma installer to see what is possible for a baseline. I'm seeing about 0.2%/hour battery drain when in standby. I will provide more details and updates later today.
As the economy goes more into boom you will see increased prices as people's wages are increased. Everything Increases its life bruh!! And no I refuse to believe you owed Samsung Galaxy you want a bad phone?! That is one right there! Battery life if absolutely the worst on any Samsung device thanks to there ****ty TW Skin.

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my phoen died from 60% overnight,

Straight up my iphone6s+ and 6p perform leaps and bounds better in stand by time . i'm trying everything to figure it out. I've only had the phone 3 days now and i've given it 8 full charges and reflashed the rom 5 times
Still no answers
 

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my phoen died from 60% overnight,

Straight up my iphone6s+ and 6p perform leaps and bounds better in stand by time . i'm trying everything to figure it out. I've only had the phone 3 days now and i've given it 8 full charges and reflashed the rom 5 times
Still no answers
Don't go on a flashing spree as and when you get bad battery. Just wait a cycle or two. It helps.
Even once mine got drained of battery from 80% to 0 in 15 mins, but I assume it was once in a lifetime thing.
Never happened after that.
Now I'm getting AVG 6 hour sot with approx 16 hours standby time.
 

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Don't go on a flashing spree as and when you get bad battery. Just wait a cycle or two. It helps.
Even once mine got drained of battery from 80% to 0 in 15 mins, but I assume it was once in a lifetime thing.
Never happened after that.
Now I'm getting AVG 6 hour sot with approx 16 hours standby time.
waiting a cycle or two doesn't address why the phone died form60 % overnight, doesn't address the constant warmth of the device, doesn't address it being fully awake even though i have no apps installed.

It doesn't make sense.
 

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I'm coming from a OnePlus One. Unfortunately, I can't find reliable BLP571 replacement batteries in the U.S., so I purchased a new OP3t.

On the OPO, I have been running custom MM and N-based ROMs. When the OPO (currently running Nougat 7.1.1 on TugaPower 2.1) is sitting around doing nothing, I typically see my idle battery current drain at around 9 uA to 14 uA and Wakelocks around 10%. Of course, when I turn the screen on, these jump up.

On the OP3t, I have tried running both OOS 3.5.4 and the new TugaPower 4.0 (which is based on Nougat 7.1.1). When the OP3t is supposedly doing nothing, I saw an idle current of around 85 mA on OOS 3.5.4, and around 35 mA on TugaPower. I didn't check the Wakelocks on OOS 3.5.4, but the Wakelocks on TugaPower are around 93% awake time (!!!!).

When I wake up in the morning, the OP3t is down to around 75% battery. For reference, my OPO used to be around 98% overnight when the battery was new. Even now, my ancient OPO with a nearly useless battery is around 85% for the same overnight time period.

What can I do?
It has been scientifically proven by various tech websites that this phone has one of the greatest battery endurance levels when compared to consistent testing methods amongst other phones.

What can cause severe battery drain is what you out on or do with the phone. From what I understand, the moment you got the phone, you did a bunch of custom software things to try and improve the battery life but it sounds like you caused the opposite effect.

In tinkering with your phone, it sounds like you screwed a bunch of **** up. Did you try using the phone "stock" at all and make minor changes as you move along to figure out what gives you the best battery life?

It's nearly impossible to narrow down what is causing bad battery life if you just load a bunch of crap into a phone at once if you can quickly identify the issue using wakelock programs, etc.
 
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It has been scientifically proven by various tech websites that this phone has one of the greatest battery endurance levels when compared to consistent testing methods amongst other phones.

What can cause severe battery drain is what you out on or do with the phone. From what I understand, the moment you got the phone, you did a bunch of custom software things to try and improve the battery life but it sounds like you caused the opposite effect.

In tinkering with your phone, it sounds like you screwed a bunch of **** up. Did you try using the phone "stock" at all and make minor changes as you move along to figure out what gives you the best battery life?

It's nearly impossible to narrow down what is causing bad battery life if you just load a bunch of crap into a phone at once if you can quickly identify the issue using wakelock programs, etc.
Hi, @SlimJ87D - Sure, I tried running stock OOS 4.0.3 on my phone before trying anything else. My wife's phone. too. I even waited a few days, just to get a clear picture. The standby battery drain was really bad on both.

Thus, this thread. I'm an engineer, and I'm a firm believer in the Scientific Method. I change one variable, and measure the results to see if there is any resulting effect. That's generally what I have been doing. This thread has been running for a few weeks now, so I have had a lot of time to try stuff out.

So far, the best I have seen for standby battery has been with FreedomOS 1.3, and a very minimal installation. For example, here is all I had installed when I started taking readings:

Things were looking more promising after the install. Here is a screenshot from last night's battery drain:

Before installing Freedom OS, my battery drain would have been about 4% for the time shown, and now I am seeing 1% over 4 hours. That's the best I have seen on the OP3T so far.

I have started to - slowly - add some of my usual apps back into the mix, staying away from any apps that use the internet at this point. None of those apps have noticeably impacted my standby drain.

So, I took made a TWRP backup to have a good baseline to return to for future testing.

After that TWRP backup, I installed Franco Kernel r12.

For the first time, I saw standby currents as low as -11 mA, and sometimes extended stretches of -18 mA.

While I have cut back a lot of functionality that I need to slowly bring back to the mix, I'm feeling more hopeful about things now. :)
 
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