Vivo Nex S related news and discussion thread

[hamdir]

Hello everyone, i thought to create this thread in order to discuss information about this awesome device

please post relevant news you find in here

 

[hamdir]

Vivo Reveals Its TOF 3D Sensing Technology At MWCS 2018

Vivo has just revealed its Time of Flight (TOF) 3D Sensing Technology and MWC Shanghai 2018. Vivo is actually promising a paradigm shift in imaging, AR, and human-machine interaction with this technology, which is a rather significant promise by the company. The company’s TOF 3D Sensing tech detects the time it takes emitted pulse light to return to the sensor in order to accurately map objects at up to three meters in from of it, says the company.

Now, Vivo says that this technology could make strides in facial, gesture, and motion recognition, while the same goes for 3D photography and AR (Augmented Reality). Vivo says that its TOF 3D Sensing Technology brings to the tablet industry-leading performance in depth of information, as it is capturing such info with 300,000 sensor points, and the company says that beats Structured Light Technology 10 times over. Vivo believes that its new technology will enable a much broader application for 3D sensing technology in general, and with so much more sensor points than the Structured Light Technology, it may become more useful, that’s for sure, though it remains to be seen if it will be as ground-breaking as Vivo hopes it will. The company believes that with some help from AI, TOF 3D Sensing Technology will be able to beautify a photo on its own, based on the image of a person who is in a photo, by scanning that person. Trying different clothing options virtually thanks to this tech will also become available, while this tech will also be able to track gestures for mixed reality (MR) games.

These are just some examples that Vivo gave out, but by combining TOF 3D Sensing Technology with AI, there are a number of applications that can be achieved. TOF 3D Sensing Technology is Vivo’s latest announcement, but the company actually announced a rather interesting smartphone not long ago, the Vivo NEX. The Vivo NEX is a smartphone which comes with over 91% screen-to-body ratio, and it sports a pop-up camera. This smartphone is made based on the Vivo APEX concept smartphone, and in addition to a pop-up camera, it also comes with an in-display fingerprint scanner, and a rather interesting replacement for an earpiece, click here if you’d like to know more about that.

 

[hamdir]

Vivo Nex teardown showing the camera mechanism

you will notice strong similarities with the OnePlus 6 teardown and even the mechanical part pushing the camera is similar to the OP6 lever for the mute button, the OP6 is more tidy overall but i guess this is an effort to appease it's worldwide audience

https://www.myfixguide.com/vivo-nex-teardown/

Nex

OnePlus 6

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+6+Teardown/109826

 

[paatha13]

First details review from tech site.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Vivo Nex review: Frustratingly imperfect, undeniably desirable

Pros:

Futuristic bezel-free design
Solid OLED display
Competitive camera
Excellent performance
Eye-catching camera mechanism
22.5W fast charging support
Really good wired audio


Cons:

Problematic software
China-only release
Under-performing battery
Unreliable fingerprint scanner
No IP rating, NFC, wireless charging

Well as everyone imagine i'm not surprised from their observation.

Really good hardware with problematic software experience.

One nagative that didn't expect was that AOD does not support third party app notification but only limited stock app.

 

[DrG0nz0]

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One nagative that didn't expect was that AOD does not support third party app notification but only limited stock app.

That's just not true. He simply didn't manage to find the right setings to make it work. I have my push notifications working fine for Whatsap, messenger, mail and a few others. You do however have to turn the push notification app's one by one, but you only do it once.

The same thing goes for the launcher. After you manage to create a VIVO account you can install nova launcher (or any other) and it will work perfectly (mine already is).

 

[paatha13]

That's just not true. He simply didn't manage to find the right setings to make it work. I have my push notifications working fine for Whatsap, messenger, mail and a few others. You do however have to turn the push notification app's one by one, but you only do it once.

The same thing goes for the launcher. After you manage to create a VIVO account you can install nova launcher (or any other) and it will work perfectly (mine already is).

Well you know that a lot of us we are not from China and activating an account is painful with current situasion.
We don't have chinese number to do that.

I'm familiar with chinese OS like MIUI and i know to setup it but that doesn't change the complicated chinese skin it's far far away to more simplify stock or near stock experience like Oxygen.

 

[DrG0nz0]

Well you know that a lot of us we are not from China and activating an account is painful with current situasion.
We don't have chinese number to do that.

I'm familiar with chinese OS like MIUI and i know to setup it but that doesn't change the complicated chinese skin it's far far away to more simplify stock or near stock experience like Oxygen.

I never said it was easy! I'm Portuguese, living in Switzerland, so no chinese contacts from my end xD

Try to enter some foruns, meet someone, maybe look around in your nearest University ESN (erasmus student network). After a few days looking online I found a guy that did it for free, 5min in a chat room with him to give me the code was all it took.

 

[paatha13]

I never said it was easy! I'm Portuguese, living in Switzerland, so no chinese contacts from my end xD

Try to enter some foruns, meet someone, maybe look around in your nearest University ESN (erasmus student network). After a few days looking online I found a guy that did it for free, 5min in a chat room with him to give me the code was all it took.

Well actually in my city there's many chinese resident living and working and many many tourists coming also but it's kind frustated to involve to such situasion with people that don't know for just activate a chinese vivo account

Good idea university but it's many years since graduate.

 

[DrG0nz0]

Well actually in my city there's many chinese resident living and working and many many tourists coming also but it's kind frustated to involve to such situasion with people that don't know for just activate a chinese vivo account

Good idea university but it's many years since graduate.

Once again, never said it would be easy :laugh:

Just think that you will never see that person again, whatever the answer is when you ask them to. If it works, great. If it doesn't, better luck next time and move on. It's just all about how bad you want to get rid of the chinese blootware and launcher that comes with the phone.

No matter how many years you graduated, it's easy to do a quick search in facebook for "ESN 'yourUniversity' " and try to ask someone for a favor in exchange for a couple of beers. You would be amazed how many great people exist

 

[monoke]

Regarding that android authority battery under-performing critique. I wonder if the fps activation sensor constantly polling for phone movement has an affect on battery.
Is there a setting to deactivate the motion sensor system and just use power button to wake fps activation? I know it's still new, but could those with the phone try it and see if there's battery improvement?

 

[KOLIOSIS]

Regarding that android authority battery under-performing critique. I wonder if the fps activation sensor constantly polling for phone movement has an affect on battery.
Is there a setting to deactivate the motion sensor system and just use power button to wake fps activation? I know it's still new, but could those with the phone try it and see if there's battery improvement?

Yeah,you can toggle the always-on FPR ( SETTINGS > FINGERPRINTS & PASSWORDS > UNLOCK > Show fingerprint icon when screen is off )
Too soon to do a real battery comparison,perhaps someone else will monitor the battery stats.
I stopped worrying about battery life years ago,haven't felt the need to take any extraordinary measures to get through the day with plenty to spare on a LOT of different phones.

 

[paatha13]

Yeah,you can toggle the always-on FPR ( SETTINGS > FINGERPRINTS & PASSWORDS > UNLOCK > Show fingerprint icon when screen is off )
Too soon to do a real battery comparison,perhaps someone else will monitor the battery stats.
I stopped worrying about battery life years ago,haven't felt the need to take any extraordinary measures to get through the day with plenty to spare on a LOT of different phones.

Yep exactly with majority of modern device last 2 years will get satisfied battery life through all day except if you are playing games all hours or continuous uses mobile data and GPS.

Don’t we all forget that at the end of day all of us charging the device to next day.

No matter you got 20 or 40% battery left at end of the day, you always charge the device for next day of usage.


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[DrG0nz0]

Regarding that android authority battery under-performing critique. I wonder if the fps activation sensor constantly polling for phone movement has an affect on battery.
Is there a setting to deactivate the motion sensor system and just use power button to wake fps activation? I know it's still new, but could those with the phone try it and see if there's battery improvement?

Yes, that settings exist. Actually, you would be surprised about how much they actually let you costumize all the actions and buttons, similar experience in that field to Cyanogen.
Regarding the battery drain, I haven't felt it yet....a good intensive use of the phone brought it to 30's% at the end of the day, wich is fine by me.

 

[paatha13]

Newl fresh arriva detail review from GSMarena.
https://www.gsmarena.com/vivo_nex_s-review-1785.php

Pros

Futuristic nearly bezel-free design
Innovative and entertaining motorized selfie camera and under-display fingerprint solutions
Amazing 6.59-inch notch-free Super AMOLED display
Great battery life, fast charging
Very loud speaker
Good audio quality
A lot of value-added features in Funtouch OS
Good, if not really impressive, image quality


Cons

No ingress protection rating
No expandable storage
No NFC
No wireless charging
Very unreliable performance on the under-display fingerprint reader
Funtouch OS is badly organised, chaotic and difficult to use. Many features are not regionalized
The camera has noticeable issues with noise, especially in low-light conditions
No [email protected] or [email protected] video capture

 

[emilrune]

EDIT: re. review quote below - see post above for the link and further info

Sadly, in its current state, Funtouch OS will keep us from recommending this device. We can liken the experience to climbing aboard a fancy, futuristic alien spaceship, only to quickly discover your inability to operate it properly and likely quickly crashing into a tree.

Perhaps, after a few software updates, or a proper international ROM release. Perhaps, once a second revision comes along. One thing is for sure, the vivo NEX S might be first in many respects, but it likely won't be the last.

Echoing several of the other early online reviews. Amazing hardware and engineering, let down by an (by Western standards) obnoxious OS and interface. I continue to be of two minds...

 

[paatha13]

EDIT: re. review quote below - see post above for the link and further info

Echoing several of the other early online reviews. Amazing hardware and engineering, let down by an (by Western standards) obnoxious OS and interface. I continue to be of two minds...

Yes unfortunately I knew from beginning before read all those reviews that Funtouch OS will be the No1 issue with Vivo.
Especially for western standards.
This heavily ios inspiration skin is totally frustrating.

Fortunately I'm familiar with the very closely to Vivo OS MIUI skin from Xiaomi and with third party launcher and some tips I can deal with it.

I really appreciate that Vivo offers gesture navigation and on screen and off screen gesture as Oxygen does.

But again i wish Vivo followed more stock experience like for example Oxygen OS

Hope future software update improved a little bit total experience.

 

[kwongwt]

The nex should be available in Hong Kong in July. It would have an international ROM.

 

[paatha13]

The nex should be available in Hong Kong in July. It would have an international ROM.

If international rom meaning more closed to stock UI it's very welcome.
Otherwise if it is only few bloatware app less than Chinese rom and few more western language support doesn't make any different to Chinese.

 

[kwongwt]

I am not sure about this. I didn't make it.

But I am quite sure that the UI will be the same, with full English menu and Google preinstalled.

 

[paatha13]

I am not sure about this. I didn't make it.

But I am quite sure that the UI will be the same, with full English menu and Google preinstalled.

Yea that's will be eventually the only differences between 2 version at the end and nothing more special.