Question Vivo X Fold VoLTE access in Canada?

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Shawnki91

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Great news re: VOLTE. No such luck here in QC here unfortunately with ROGERS. Spent some time on the phone with them this morning and we both reset out network settings, I switched on the toggle using the phone menu codes, and no options. Luckilly I do get 5G at home, but would be nice when I go to poor reception areas.
 

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I don't see the Volte HD calling option in SIM settings after the update, did it just appear for you after the update or did you need to do something to get the toggle to appear?
 

Shawnki91

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I am going to retract my comment above. New update just landed for me today and VoLTE is now active for me on ROGERS in QC. Also immediately improved my 5G reception!
 

Q-Prof

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I don't see the Volte HD calling option in SIM settings after the update, did it just appear for you after the update or did you need to do something to get the toggle to appear?
Rocky had this to say on this thread, on getting it working for him, hopefully that helps you. Sounds like Shawnki91 in QC has his fully working, lol could this not have been a couple of weeks ago before I went for the Fold 4.
 

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So I have been in a back and forth with Vivo once to twice daily over VoLTE for 2 weeks, probably with 3 or 4 people emailing them they finally budged but I can't see the update yet... Also how are you guys rooted? Early BLU ? Can someone upload the zip please. Thanks 🙏
 

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I am still waiting as well. The updates are released in batches by IMIE number, so you should get it in the next few weeks. Unfortunately the updates download and install without the option to simply download first. Consequently, I can't see anyone having the update file available to share because it is not stored on the device once the update has been applied. The publicly available firmware on the manufacturer's Chinese site is still several versions behind.
 
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rocky272727

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I noticed VoNR option in developers menu.
 

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frcraig

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The VoNR toggle was always available in Developer Settings. The problem with it of course is that none of the Canadian carriers have any plans to implement VoNR. I still don't have the update that enables VoLTE, so I've been using my Xiaomi Mix Fold 2. Enabling VoLTE on it was a simple as using the code in the dial app (although for some reason that only works on Rogers, not on Bell). It is also a lot lighter than the Vivo, although to be honest it is so light that I will probably end up losing my grip on it and dropping it one day.
 

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The VoNR toggle was always available in Developer Settings. The problem with it of course is that none of the Canadian carriers have any plans to implement VoNR. I still don't have the update that enables VoLTE, so I've been using my Xiaomi Mix Fold 2. Enabling VoLTE on it was a simple as using the code in the dial app (although for some reason that only works on Rogers, not on Bell). It is also a lot lighter than the Vivo, although to be honest it is so light that I will probably end up losing my grip on it and dropping it one day.
It is a shame, the update has not come through for you yet, weird that Rocky got his and you are still waiting.
I hear you on that - so thin, sleek, and light.... one postivie with the Z Fold 4 (lots of cases to choose from), the Spigen Slim Armor Pro Pen Edition case, really feels good and has protection all around, to the point I feel pretty confident holding it and if it does fall, seems pretty tough to take some hits, lol, also JerryRigEverything did a number on it so pretty durable, it will be cool to see him work on the Mix 2.... maybe there are some better cases out there you can try from AliExpress that may help to protect the Mix 2 from some drops better than the one that comes with it, if you are OK with a little more size. I know I feel better about the Fold 4 with the case on it, than not.
 
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JonWayne101

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My phone works in US on Bell and Telus roaming with 5G, without any issues.
Ohh wow!! I'm wanting to get the vivo x fold but soo not sure it would not work in the US. I'm currently with ATT and they have done away with the 3g voice which sucks..but with the new update to enable VoLTE it should work I would think. I currently have the Samsung note 20 ultra which I had to get due to the 3g voice discontinued from my Huawei mate 20.. I love that phone lol...
 

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Ohh wow!! I'm wanting to get the vivo x fold but soo not sure it would not work in the US. I'm currently with ATT and they have done away with the 3g voice which sucks..but with the new update to enable VoLTE it should work I would think. I currently have the Samsung note 20 ultra which I had to get due to the 3g voice discontinued from my Huawei mate 20.. I love that phone lol...
I used my phone in New York on T Mobile (roaming) without any issues I was getting 5G
 
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frcraig

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Yeah the vivo x fold works with T mobile.. just not sure with ATT.!!
I would be cautious about AT&T. They use a "whitelist" method of VoLTE provisioning, and there are no Vivo phones on their whitelist. T-Mobile does not use a whitelist. If the device is VoLTE capable, and if the phone manufacturer provides a method to enable VoLTE (which Xiaomi does with a dialing code or which Vivo has recently done with a firmware update to the X Fold) then VoLTE will work on T-Mobile.
 

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Ohh wow!! I'm wanting to get the vivo x fold but soo not sure it would not work in the US. I'm currently with ATT and they have done away with the 3g voice which sucks..but with the new update to enable VoLTE it should work I would think. I currently have the Samsung note 20 ultra which I had to get due to the 3g voice discontinued from my Huawei mate 20.. I love that phone lol...
Ironically my Fold X has not yet received the firmware update to enable VoLTE, but my Huawei Mate 20 X has always had VoLTE enabled on the various Canadian carriers that I use and it roams with VoLTE in the United States.
 

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I would be cautious about AT&T. They use a "whitelist" method of VoLTE provisioning, and there are no Vivo phones on their whitelist. T-Mobile does not use a whitelist. If the device is VoLTE capable, and if the phone manufacturer provides a method to enable VoLTE (which Xiaomi does with a dialing code or which Vivo has recently done with a firmware update to the X Fold) then VoLTE will work on T-Mobile.
Yeah I'mma do more research before I buy any other Chinese phone..I have an Xiaomi mi mix..and it works with VoLTE on AT&T but I have a custom rom installed on it also..soo 🤷🏿‍♂️. And I wasn't aware of Xiaomi having a dialing code to enable the VoLTE ! Hmmm which now that I think about it.. I may do more research on the Xiaomi fold 2 working on AT&T !!
 

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Ironically my Fold X has not yet received the firmware update to enable VoLTE, but my Huawei Mate 20 X has always had VoLTE enabled on the various Canadian carriers that I use and it roams with VoLTE in the United States.
Is there a way to enable VoLTE on the Huawei Mate 20 X . I don't believe my mate 20 is enabled..I can get 4g data but can't talk or make calls due to voice drops to 3g.. AT&T has discontinued 3g!!
 

frcraig

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Is there a way to enable VoLTE on the Huawei Mate 20 X . I don't believe my mate 20 is enabled..I can get 4g data but can't talk or make calls due to voice drops to 3g.. AT&T has discontinued 3u

Yeah I'mma do more research before I buy any other Chinese phone..I have an Xiaomi mi mix..and it works with VoLTE on AT&T but I have a custom rom installed on it also..soo 🤷🏿‍♂️. And I wasn't aware of Xiaomi having a dialing code to enable the VoLTE ! Hmmm which now that I think about it.. I may do more research on the Xiaomi fold 2 working on AT&T !!
I also have the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, and although I don't have the Vivo X Fold update yet that would allow VoLTE on Canadian carriers (they don't support VoLTE on Xiaomi or Vivo) I was able to enable VoLTE on my Xiaomi just by entering the disable carrier check code in the dialer app.
 

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Is there a way to enable VoLTE on the Huawei Mate 20 X . I don't believe my mate 20 is enabled..I can get 4g data but can't talk or make calls due to voice drops to 3g.. AT&T has discontinued 3g!!
Unless you're Huawei already has an unlocked bootloader so that you can root with magisk and install the VoLTEenabler module, or edit your build.prop, then there are no ways to force VoLTE on your Huawei. Huawei stopped releasing unlock codes several years ago. The only reason I have VoLTE on my Huawei Mate 20 X is that all of the Canadian carriers used to sell the device before the Google ban on Huawei went into effect and so it is an approved device for VoLTE provisioning on their networks.
 

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    Using Vivo X Fold+ with Bell in Toronto. Volte and VoWifi are working after the latest firmware update.
    If I knew that this was going to be a good possibility last Sept, would have probably gone/waited for this phone, but with my Huawei Honor Note 8 and its aged software system, I was desperate to get something that worked as some apps just were not working anymore with it.

    I was really interested in the Vivo X Fold, but no VoLTE was possible then and didn't look like it would ever be supported, then came the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, another sweet foldable, just not as robust hardware, but more of a light thin version - which I probably prefer now, but the Samsung Z Fold 4 with the Watch 5 pro and Buds 2 pro family of devices are doing well with me.... a little thicker (have a Spigen Slim Armor Pro Pen case with removable pop socket and an ESR boost kickstand) but with refined software that works without issue here in Canada in general. I just hope that Samsung gets their act together and innovates like the Xiaomi and Vivo to come out with some competitive hardware with larger front screen to go along with their refined software for the fold 5 or 6.... as I plan to take advantage of their trade-in system after putting a chunk of money in initially for their brand.
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    If I knew that this was going to be a good possibility last Sept, would have probably gone/waited for this phone, but with my Huawei Honor Note 8 and its aged software system, I was desperate to get something that worked as some apps just were not working anymore with it.

    I was really interested in the Vivo X Fold, but no VoLTE was possible then and didn't look like it would ever be supported, then came the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2, another sweet foldable, just not as robust hardware, but more of a light thin version - which I probably prefer now, but the Samsung Z Fold 4 with the Watch 5 pro and Buds 2 pro family of devices are doing well with me.... a little thicker (have a Spigen Slim Armor Pro Pen case with removable pop socket and an ESR boost kickstand) but with refined software that works without issue here in Canada in general. I just hope that Samsung gets their act together and innovates like the Xiaomi and Vivo to come out with some competitive hardware with larger front screen to go along with their refined software for the fold 5 or 6.... as I plan to take advantage of their trade-in system after putting a chunk of money in initially for their brand.
    I have installed the new Android 13 update (OceanOS v 3.0) and VoLTE immediately appeared on booting up my phone. I’ve tried SIMs from Rogers, Telus, Bell, and Eastlink and VoLTE now works on all of them. For anyone having VoLTE issues in Canada, download Android 13 (system update/public beta). As a side note, I also have the Vivo X Note phone, and I had the same issues with VoLTE on it until I updated it yesterday to Android 13 and the new version of OceanOS, and it now has VoLTE on all Canadian carriers as well. Sounds like Vivo does listen to complaints.
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    I have installed the new Android 13 update (OceanOS v 3.0) and VoLTE immediately appeared on booting up my phone. I’ve tried SIMs from Rogers, Telus, Bell, and Eastlink and VoLTE now works on all of them. For anyone having VoLTE issues in Canada, download Android 13 (system update/public beta). As a side note, I also have the Vivo X Note phone, and I had the same issues with VoLTE on it until I updated it yesterday to Android 13 and the new version of OceanOS, and it now has VoLTE on all Canadian carriers as well. Sounds like Vivo does listen to complaints.
    Thanks for sharing frcraig, good to know for all those out there.

    I did do a lot of complaining to three divisions, also told Vivo I was sharing their responses to forums here in Canada, and I wasn't accepting an answer we'll pass it on to the developers as I wanted practical answers. I was really trying to get something meaningful from them earlier, so I could make my decision easier... in the end I had to take the safe purchase, but it cost me more money with Samsung.

    All is good, as it is a positive outcome for Canadians. It was too much of a risk at the time for me, with the cost of all of the fold phones.

    There is a silver lining... Samsung will lose market share with their fold here in America, if they don't get more competitive with their hardware and form factor as they don't hold the fold market hostage on their previous Canadian monopoly anymore.
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    a japanese figured out how to unlock volte in japan. but u have to unlock the bootloader, root and patch an img file with magisk. then again, it's a risk for doing that. and it might not necessarily work in canada.

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    Got a new update and wifi calling has been switched on.....awesome newsView attachment 5702127
    GREAT news. I've been debating on getting the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 or Vivo X Fold S (when it comes out). This adds a point to Vivo.
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    Message to https://www.vivo.com/en/support page through their email
    (also commented on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/vivocareGlobal a quick question also)

    I am in Canada interested in getting the Vivo X Fold, but finding out that Canadian carriers (main ones here in Canada: Rogers and Bell) from local XDA Forum on the Vivo X Fold (https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/vivo-x-fold.12651/) do not allow the VoLTE 4G to be turned on here in Canada even though carriers support 4G and LTE bands on your phone.

    VoLTE is the major Voice Over LTE 4G communications standard protocol, that allows us in Canada with local carriers to talk on the phone with others.

    See forum feedback from XDA member that is in Canada with your Vivo X Fold phone:
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...e-fence-as-to-which-one.4473827/post-87216075
    for his feedback and efforts to get VoLTE to work, i.e. it is not working!

    Is there a reason why the VoLTE 4G is greyed out and can't be turned on, on the Vivo X Fold her in Canada, thereby making voice phone calls not possible on your phone through this standard voice communications protocol?

    There are a lot of interested people here for the Vivo X Fold in Canada that want a quality foldable phone and don't want to use the Samsung fold because it is too narrow on the front screen,
    but looks like we are forced to get it as it is the only foldable that will work on Canadian carriers! Your phone is the only other possible choice BUT DOESN'T HAVE VOLTE 4G WORKING with any of the carriers here in Canada!

    Have confirmed this with Rogers and Bell putting their current Sim Card in, and the option to turn on VoLTE is greyed out, i.e. can't be turned on by either cellular service.

    I know T-Mobile in USA, the Vivo X Fold works on their network, but why not at least one carrier in Canada?
    (There is talk that Vivo got their phones certified for use with T-Mobile in the USA, but no carriers were certified (paid registration fee so that it works with carrier) in Canada, leaving us Canadians that want to use any of your phones, not able to because the VoLTE can't be turned on in the phones mobile service settings.

    Can you tell me why this is not working and/or reason why VoLTE is not able to be turned on?

    Is there anything that can be done about this?
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    Message to https://www.vivo.com/en/support page through their email
    (also commented on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/vivocareGlobal a quick question also)


    I am in Canada interested in getting the Vivo X Fold, but finding out that Canadian carriers (main ones here in Canada: Rogers and Bell) from local XDA Forum on the Vivo X Fold (https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/vivo-x-fold.12651/) do not allow the VoLTE 4G to be turned on here in Canada even though carriers support 4G and LTE bands on your phone.

    VoLTE is the major Voice Over LTE 4G communications standard protocol, that allows us in Canada with local carriers to talk on the phone with others.

    See forum feedback from XDA member that is in Canada with your Vivo X Fold phone:
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...e-fence-as-to-which-one.4473827/post-87216075
    for his feedback and efforts to get VoLTE to work, i.e. it is not working!


    Is there a reason why the VoLTE 4G is greyed out and can't be turned on, on the Vivo X Fold her in Canada, thereby making voice phone calls not possible on your phone through this standard voice communications protocol?

    There are a lot of interested people here for the Vivo X Fold in Canada that want a quality foldable phone and don't want to use the Samsung fold because it is too narrow on the front screen,
    but looks like we are forced to get it as it is the only foldable that will work on Canadian carriers! Your phone is the only other possible choice BUT DOESN'T HAVE VOLTE 4G WORKING with any of the carriers here in Canada!


    Have confirmed this with Rogers and Bell putting their current Sim Card in, and the option to turn on VoLTE is greyed out, i.e. can't be turned on by either cellular service.

    I know T-Mobile in USA, the Vivo X Fold works on their network, but why not at least one carrier in Canada?
    (There is talk that Vivo got their phones certified for use with T-Mobile in the USA, but no carriers were certified (paid registration fee so that it works with carrier) in Canada, leaving us Canadians that want to use any of your phones, not able to because the VoLTE can't be turned on in the phones mobile service settings.


    Can you tell me why this is not working and/or reason why VoLTE is not able to be turned on?

    Is there anything that can be done about this?
    For what its worth, you can enable VoNR for stand alone frequencies. in developer settings or with a dialing code. The problem is that while these phones can connect on n78 Stand Alone networks, (3500mhz) the Canadian telecoms have just started using this frequency and it is only in a few major cities. They are also not using Voice Over 5G (VoNR) so even when the n78 band reaches your area, you would have to wait for the carrier to switch their technology for voice calls from VoLTE to VoNR. So far only T-Mobile (in Seattle and Salt Lake City) have turned on VoNR.
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    I have installed the new Android 13 update (OceanOS v 3.0) and VoLTE immediately appeared on booting up my phone. I’ve tried SIMs from Rogers, Telus, Bell, and Eastlink and VoLTE now works on all of them. For anyone having VoLTE issues in Canada, download Android 13 (system update/public beta). As a side note, I also have the Vivo X Note phone, and I had the same issues with VoLTE on it until I updated it yesterday to Android 13 and the new version of OceanOS, and it now has VoLTE on all Canadian carriers as well. Sounds like Vivo does listen to complaints.
    Thanks for sharing frcraig, good to know for all those out there.

    I did do a lot of complaining to three divisions, also told Vivo I was sharing their responses to forums here in Canada, and I wasn't accepting an answer we'll pass it on to the developers as I wanted practical answers. I was really trying to get something meaningful from them earlier, so I could make my decision easier... in the end I had to take the safe purchase, but it cost me more money with Samsung.

    All is good, as it is a positive outcome for Canadians. It was too much of a risk at the time for me, with the cost of all of the fold phones.

    There is a silver lining... Samsung will lose market share with their fold here in America, if they don't get more competitive with their hardware and form factor as they don't hold the fold market hostage on their previous Canadian monopoly anymore.