Question Vivo X Fold vs Xiaomi Mix Fold 2

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OrionBG

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Hey guys,

It appears that Vivo and SamEsung have a new threat on the horizon... The Xiomi Mix Fold 2!
Thinner, ligher, having better spec than the X fold, almost same size screens as the X Fold...
And let's face it, Xiaomi has a better software than Vivo plus this will be their second gen fold and they have some feedback by now... The cameras are quite similar too. The price also. I might switch... Just for the experience...
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domineus

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I wouldn't necessarily say the software is better yet. I will say it could be more flexible for rooting and other things but better is kind of subjective. That said I'm curious to see vivo implement android 12 L. Honestly I'm a bit concerned about their updates in relation to adoption of new os updates like android 12L and android 13
 

OrionBG

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Vivo will be releasing a refresh of the X Fold called the X Fold S. Seems to be exactly the same but with a Snapdragon 8+ Gen1... They might switch their interest to it after release so I'm not sure how things will unfold.
Xiaomi has the plus of having official bootloader unlock options and the Xiaomi EU custom roms that support even China only devices. Another thing is that Xiaomi has a lot bigger user base and more development...
 
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Don't know how you can say Mix Fold 2 is better than X Fold?
Beside it very thin and of course 8+ gen 1
No flex mode
No wireless charge and reverse wireless charge
Smaller battery
No inner screen selfie camera
No Under Screen Fingerprint Sensor
 

OrionBG

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Don't know how you can say Mix Fold 2 is better than X Fold?
Beside it very thin and of course 8+ gen 1
No flex mode
No wireless charge and reverse wireless charge
Smaller battery
No inner screen selfie camera
No Under Screen Fingerprint Sensor
The last two are actually plusses for me...
Flex mode? There is no flex mode on the X Fold. Only the Samsung have this.
Wireless charging is the biggest evil ever conceived... Slow, heating up the entire device...
Smaller battery? To my knowledge both have 4500mAh battery packs.
Anyway... Different people different needs... I like my X fold but xiaomi is xiaomi...
 
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The last two are actually plusses for me...
Flex mode? There is no flex mode on the X Fold. Only the Samsung have this.
Wireless charging is the biggest evil ever conceived... Slow, heating up the entire device...
Smaller battery? To my knowledge both have 4500mAh battery packs.
Anyway... Different people different needs... I like my X fold but xiaomi is xiaomi...
You make me laugh so hard,why? Do you really own vivo x fold? No flex mode? Go to setting and search "flex" to see the result?You can do it on i video app and camera app.Your knowledge there both have 4500mah?Laughing again, pls do your research and comparison before saying anything.Have a nice day :)
 

OrionBG

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You make me laugh so hard,why? Do you really own vivo x fold? No flex mode? Go to setting and search "flex" to see the result?You can do it on i video app and camera app.Your knowledge there both have 4500mah?Laughing again, pls do your research and comparison before saying anything.Have a nice day :)
Ok so there is a flex mode that is only supported by the vivo video player and netflix... Wow... This is why i have never seen it...
And the battery is 4600mAh on the vivo! A whole 100mAh more. That is almost 10 minutes more battery life 😂🤣😂
But yeah OK, it has those. We don't know what software will the Xiaomi have exactly so it might or might not have a flex mode... (Quite usesless for me personally but other people use it. I had Galaxy Fold 2 at one pointand did not use it there too)
Once again different people different use cases ...
 

domineus

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With root and bootloader unlock I am extremely happy with the x fold. I can’t see myself jumping ship unless xiaomi / vivo does something special. Honestly I’m happy. Having said that xiaomi is a bit more developer friendly in some circumstances (not all). I guess it is try before you buy.
 

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I have ordered the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 and will update the thread when it arrives. It has an unlockable bootloader which will make rooting with Magisk straight forward, but be aware that it runs on MIUI 13.1 Fold firmware which is based on Android 12, not 12L. Xiaomi is working directly with app developers to create foldable tweaks. Xiaomi EU has confirmed they will not undertake a custom ROM for this device, as the CN firmware is unique to this single device and Xiaomi EU will not do one off projects. Also the good old Xiaomi dialing code that enables VoLTE on devices not supported by carrier SIM settings does not work on MIUI 13.1 firmware. I'm hoping that a Magisk module or editing the build.prop will solve that problem for me, as my carrier (Rogers Canada) won't support VoLTE for the device and thus when voice calls drop to 3G when travelling in the US I wouldn't be able to place phone calls.
 
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OrionBG

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With root and bootloader unlock I am extremely happy with the x fold. I can’t see myself jumping ship unless xiaomi / vivo does something special. Honestly I’m happy. Having said that xiaomi is a bit more developer friendly in some circumstances (not all). I guess it is try before you buy.
Can't agree more.
I too like how I have configured everything on my X Fold, especially with the launcher I use, but the Mix Fold 2 has some definite pluses too. I'll probably wait for a while to see how things go and some reviews and then decide...
 
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OrionBG

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I have ordered the Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 and will update the thread when it arrives. It has an unlockable bootloader which will make rooting with Magisk straight forward, but be aware that it runs on MIUI 13.1 Fold firmware which is based on Android 12, not 12L. Xiaomi is working directly with app developers to create foldable tweaks. Xiaomi EU has confirmed they will not undertake a custom ROM for this device, as the CN firmware is unique to this single device and Xiaomi EU will not do one off projects. Also the good old Xiaomi dialing code that enables VoLTE on devices not supported by carrier SIM settings does not work on MIUI 13.1 firmware. I'm hoping that a Magisk module or editing the build.prop will solve that problem for me, as my carrier (Rogers Canada) won't support VoLTE for the device and thus when voice calls drop to 3G when travelling in the US I wouldn't be able to place phone calls.
I will be eagerly waiting for your report on the device when you receive it.
Even if you post it in another thread, please drop a link here so we can see it.
Volte works here in the UK for the Vivo X Fold (I think... at least during a call I stay on 4G/5G, also have the HD Call icon) (WiFi call works also).
 
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domineus

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I will be eagerly waiting for your report on the device when you receive it.
Even if you post it in another thread, please drop a link here so we can see it.
Volte works here in the UK for the Vivo X Fold (I think... at least during a call I stay on 4G/5G, also have the HD Call icon) (WiFi call works also).
Same actually. I was surprised I got it in America as well as Scotland.

It’s a shame Canada isn’t working
 
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Xiaomi MIX Fold 2's pros compared to vivo X Fold:
  • Lightweight and thin, I even feel it's lighter than Xiaomi 12S Ultra
  • High performance, it was avg. 59.9fps with Genshin highest quality
  • No punch hole
  • Creases are even less noticeable
  • VoLTE is enabled by default and force-enable command works
  • Touch latency of MIX Fold 2's inner screen is far better than vivo (and even normal flagships), it's 37.6ms where vivo was 56.7ms

Cons:
  • No flex mode, cannot be fixed at any angle
  • vivo's camera is better especially at night
  • Wattage performance is a little poor in performance mode, maybe it's better on balanced mode
  • Easily heated, easily cooled
  • No punch hole camera, but illuminance sensor is visible in light reflection
 

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domineus

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Yes, bootloader unlocking needs 168 hours to approval, but Xiaomi provides fastboot images so rooting is really easy.
You can even receive OTA after rooting.
Ha that is easy!
The x fold is still rooted but the process took a lot. I wish it was more like xiaomi but I also wish more developers had this device for rom porting and the like
 

OrionBG

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Xiaomi MIX Fold 2's pros compared to vivo X Fold:
  • Lightweight and thin, I even feel it's lighter than Xiaomi 12S Ultra
  • High performance, it was avg. 59.9fps with Genshin highest quality
  • No punch hole
  • Creases are even less noticeable
  • VoLTE is enabled by default and force-enable command works

Cons:
  • No flex mode, cannot be fixed at any angle
  • Wattage performance is a little poor in performance mode, maybe it's better on balanced mode
  • Easily heated, easily cooled
  • No punch hole camera, but illuminance sensor is visible in light reflection
So after looking at the Mix Fold 2, what do you think is the overall better device?
Which one would you prefer to use on a daily basis?
Also, how is the MIUI Fold interface compared to the very Chinese one of Vivo's Ocean OS?
 

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    So let me see if I understood this correctly,
    If you disable "Xiaomi Optimizations" from Developer Settings, you can have YouTube (or another player) on the top half of the phone (in full screen) and another app on the bottom half of the screen?
    Yes, this is correct
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    That is really nice to hear! Can you please make a screenshot whenever you have time?
    Screenshot_2022-09-01-15-59-29-486_com.vanced.android.youtube.jpg

    You can also zoom to fill too so the whole top half is covered, and if you split from a different app first, then open youtube, you can have it on the bottom. Whatever app is opened first is on the top. This is in portraight, if you rotate to landscape, it switches to vertical. You could maybe set up a tasker event or something so that whenever split with youtube, it is forced into portraight, but i havent tested anything like that.
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    Got it. Thanks for the info!
    Still not as good as it can be with the phone in Landscape mode (to have proper left and right speakers) but still something...
    Yeah, I dont know why xiaomi made this a limitation, it seems necessary for a foldable. I wouldnt be surprised if it gets added in an update. Because you can atleast unlock this phone without relying on it being on early enough fw, i hope someone makes a mod to allow for horizontal, vertical split switching.
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    I just wish Android Auto would work, hoping a tutorial of how to root comes out soon.
    I created magisk module to enable Android Auto support :)

    Hi, how about the camera compare to the X Fold? THANKS
    I think X Fold's camera is better especially at night scene.
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    Xiaomi MIX Fold 2's pros compared to vivo X Fold:
    • Lightweight and thin, I even feel it's lighter than Xiaomi 12S Ultra
    • High performance, it was avg. 59.9fps with Genshin highest quality
    • No punch hole
    • Creases are even less noticeable
    • VoLTE is enabled by default and force-enable command works
    • Touch latency of MIX Fold 2's inner screen is far better than vivo (and even normal flagships), it's 37.6ms where vivo was 56.7ms

    Cons:
    • No flex mode, cannot be fixed at any angle
    • vivo's camera is better especially at night
    • Wattage performance is a little poor in performance mode, maybe it's better on balanced mode
    • Easily heated, easily cooled
    • No punch hole camera, but illuminance sensor is visible in light reflection
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    wow , where u live?
    till now mix fold 2 nit availlable in middle east
    I live in Japan and ordered with 8999CNY from Xiaomi official store on JD.com.
    It's Chinese website but supports oversea shipping with FedEx and I got within 5 days.

    One more question.
    Can you do a horizontal split screen on the Mix Fold 2? The Vivo can't yet...
    Basically have an almost full-screen Youtube on the upper half with a web page on the lower... or something similar...
    There's no option for that... It only splits into two vertical windows
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    Got it. Thanks for the info!
    Still not as good as it can be with the phone in Landscape mode (to have proper left and right speakers) but still something...
    Yeah, I dont know why xiaomi made this a limitation, it seems necessary for a foldable. I wouldnt be surprised if it gets added in an update. Because you can atleast unlock this phone without relying on it being on early enough fw, i hope someone makes a mod to allow for horizontal, vertical split switching.
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    With root and bootloader unlock I am extremely happy with the x fold. I can’t see myself jumping ship unless xiaomi / vivo does something special. Honestly I’m happy. Having said that xiaomi is a bit more developer friendly in some circumstances (not all). I guess it is try before you buy.
    Can't agree more.
    I too like how I have configured everything on my X Fold, especially with the launcher I use, but the Mix Fold 2 has some definite pluses too. I'll probably wait for a while to see how things go and some reviews and then decide...