Question Vivo x90 pro+ vs S23U

[lemonade747]

The portrait mode on X90 pro plus has a face recognition setting in portait mode that will make a fusion of photos on different planes to have all in focus.
Vivo X90 pro plus has saturation and exposure settings presettable, like dsrl interfaces, no other phones have that, this makes it the most flexible of all.
I like it very much and I have compared with my S23 Ultra and Xiaomi 13 pro.
The xiaomi already sold, thinking to sell also S23U but I have to test the Vivo if normal phone usage always is ok for me.
Xiaomi 13 Ultra is very exciting, I will give it a try for sure.

You should keep the S23U in my opinion. It has far far better battery and software optimization than the X90P+. If you want to use this phone as your daily drive, then you need to make sure it can fit your needs. Otherwise, it's a great camera phone for sure.

 

[Haskren]

If photography is important to you and you are after the phone yielding the best possible result, stick to the x90p+ - particularly if you want the camera with the least amount of noise in low light and best ability to retain highlights. Unlike the S23U, it will also give you the flexibility to use the digital zoom in between native lenses and get a great result thanks to the large sensor. Night zoom, no contest with the Samsung.

I have found the 2x zoom to be a fantastic lens. It's a perfect focal length for portraits, and it performs incredibly in low light and in sport mode thanks to the large f/1.6 aperture and sensor. Most zooms have small apertures and simply can't keep up with fast moving subjects. To compensate for inability to absorb sufficient light, the camera has to increase the iso and subsequently, the image quality falls apart. The 2x is one of the best aspects of the camera setup, and I'm not familiar with any other camera offering such a big aperture on a zoom.

As for battery life, unless you are hiking without ability to charge or for some reason can't carry a portable charger, the battery life is not something you need to worry about. It will get you through the day with heavy use, just like any other phone.

 

[olaf63]

It’s 3 weeks i have it and i find it also a great phone for daily use. Yes, the battery lasts a little less than S23U but not by much. Sound it’s allmost the same, clearer the vivo. Maps and BT car are functioning wel, and reception is better Vivo. I find it a great phone, until now.

 

[P6P]

It’s 3 weeks i have it and i find it also a great phone for daily use. Yes, the battery lasts a little less than S23U but not by much. Sound it’s allmost the same, clearer the vivo. Maps and BT car are functioning wel, and reception is better Vivo. I find it a great phone, until now.

I had similar experience. Sold the s23 ultra and bought a second x90 pro plus. Now I'll sell one and get the Xiaomi 13 ultra.

 

[bmw320cd]

I have found the 2x zoom to be a fantastic lens. It's a perfect focal length for portraits, and it performs incredibly in low light and in sport mode thanks to the large f/1.6 aperture and sensor. Most zooms have small apertures and simply can't keep up with fast moving subjects. To compensate for inability to absorb sufficient light, the camera has to increase the iso and subsequently, the image quality falls apart. The 2x is one of the best aspects of the camera setup, and I'm not familiar with any other camera offering such a big aperture on a zoom.

I absolutely agree
I think it's the cameraphone with the best choice for the focal lengths of the sensors associated with "large" sensors both on the 2x (1/2.0'' and f1.6) and on the 3.5x (1/2.4 and f3.5) vs S23U 3x (1/3.52'' f2.4) and 10x (1/3.52'' f4.9)... (More small sensor on S23U + small aperture = very bad shot on this camera in night, also very poor iso management for samsung)
Head to head at night with a friend's S23U, the 2x and the 3.5x is really no story. Vivo is soooo much better, also like a few pages ago, I posted a video that emphasized the very high quality of Zeiss lenses that allow you to manage light very well, manage higher iso thanks to te lens and the V2 chip ... S23U on the 3x was already in crisis with 800-1000 of iso ... I with the X90PP both on 2x and 3.5x I shot quietly at over 6000 iso

 

[franagan75]

It’s 3 weeks i have it and i find it also a great phone for daily use. Yes, the battery lasts a little less than S23U but not by much. Sound it’s allmost the same, clearer the vivo. Maps and BT car are functioning wel, and reception is better Vivo. I find it a great phone, until now.

Im very happy with this vivo, my Last phone whas oppo find x5 pro and 8gen1I could hardly use the camera because of overheating

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Unlike the S23U, it will also give you the flexibility to use the digital zoom in between native lenses

That is false. The S23 Ultra like it's predecessors let's you zoom at any number between x0.6 - x100

 

[Haskren]

That is false. The S23 Ultra like it's predecessors let's you zoom at any number between x0.6 - x100

You cut my quote. I said: Unlike the S23U, it will also give you the flexibility to use the digital zoom in between native lenses and get a great result
Yes, you can of course use digital zoom, but quality won't be great

 

[SyCoREAPER]

My mistake, I read that as the inability of the S23 Ultra to do so.

Either way, it is your opinion and subjective, which you are of course entitled to.

What people forget, not saying you are, is that a camera isn't bad just because another beats it. That's why I think side-by-side samples are dumb for any phone unless its downright bad. Both are capable phones.

 

[olaf63]

S23U has very good cam, especially after later updates Is strong at day scene reading and has less artifacts. But I prefer the Vivo for portraits and setting flexibility mostly for color. It seems to me to have a real cam with me and I enjoy more taking photo.

 

[Eric-Mod]

I gotta need to say something without trying trashing the vivo. Just my clear opinion.

I had the vivo x90 pro plus for like 5 days and already returned it. Don't get me wrong, it's a solid phone, I had the X60 Pro+, the X70 Pro+ and the X80 Pro so I knew what was coming at me regarding Origin OS.

But for almost 1050€, the speakers were quite disappointing, the haptic motor was trash. If you used an iPhone before, you maybe know what I mean.
Battery was okay. Scrolling through YouTube (Shorts) was a nightmare. All videos had like 360p quality, but restored to HD little later. Kind of annoying.

If you set the Screen refresh rate to adaptive, I haven't had any clue why almost every other app downloaded from the play store had 60Hz. Changing the refresh rate to continuous 120Hz solved the problem. Why is there even LTPO-Tech inside?

Leaving bluetooth turned on - setting Spotify to my standard music app in the settings - and hopped into my car, the phone was not able to play music automatically. I would be forced to grab my phone out of my pocket, open Spotify and press play. First world problems - I know. But not for me.
Downloading a workaround-app from the play store solved this problem - but why?

The camera was great, but I compared it to my iPhone 13 Pro max. The vivo was better of course - but I have to say, it didn't blew me away. The X60 Pro Plus back then was really mind blowing - but I guess years have gone by with camera tech.

Conclusion (for me): It's too expensive for what it is - I'd pay 800€ for it. But I guess thats not fair to say for a china-only phone. But maybe you know what I mean.
I bought the S23 Ultra a few days ago, and I gotta say, the X90 Pro plus doesn't even come close. Camera is not everyhting I guess.

TO ALL : If you love your X90 Pro Plus - I'm happy for you! I know my problems don't apply to everyone. I just want to share my (subjective) opinion on the X90 Pro plus (vs S23 Ultra).

 

[P6P]

I gotta need to say something without trying trashing the vivo. Just my clear opinion.

I had the vivo x90 pro plus for like 5 days and already returned it. Don't get me wrong, it's a solid phone, I had the X60 Pro+, the X70 Pro+ and the X80 Pro so I knew what was coming at me regarding Origin OS.

But for almost 1050€, the speakers were quite disappointing, the haptic motor was trash. If you used an iPhone before, you maybe know what I mean.
Battery was okay. Scrolling through YouTube (Shorts) was a nightmare. All videos had like 360p quality, but restored to HD little later. Kind of annoying.

If you set the Screen refresh rate to adaptive, I haven't had any clue why almost every other app downloaded from the play store had 60Hz. Changing the refresh rate to continuous 120Hz solved the problem. Why is there even LTPO-Tech inside?

Leaving bluetooth turned on - setting Spotify to my standard music app in the settings - and hopped into my car, the phone was not able to play music automatically. I would be forced to grab my phone out of my pocket, open Spotify and press play. First world problems - I know. But not for me.
Downloading a workaround-app from the play store solved this problem - but why?

The camera was great, but I compared it to my iPhone 13 Pro max. The vivo was better of course - but I have to say, it didn't blew me away. The X60 Pro Plus back then was really mind blowing - but I guess years have gone by with camera tech.

Conclusion (for me): It's too expensive for what it is - I'd pay 800€ for it. But I guess thats not fair to say for a china-only phone. But maybe you know what I mean.
I bought the S23 Ultra a few days ago, and I gotta say, the X90 Pro plus doesn't even come close. Camera is not everyhting I guess.

TO ALL : If you love your X90 Pro Plus - I'm happy for you! I know my problems don't apply to everyone. I just want to share my (subjective) opinion on the X90 Pro plus (vs S23 Ultra).

Oh well that was a short journey. I'm waiting for the Xiaomi 13 Ultra now.

 

[Eric-Mod]

Oh well that was a short journey. I'm waiting for the Xiaomi 13 Ultra now.

Unfortunately, I know.

 

[lemonade747]

Same opinion. However, what I'm disappointed is just the battery, no anything else. The camera is excellent as I should be. Waiting for the next S24U and see if there are any improvements. The S23U is good, but still meh for me to upgrade from the S22U.

 

[P6P]

Similar for me so much annoying stuff on top usb 3.2 transfer speed 2x slower then my old 21 ultra exynos crap, ufs 4 s8 gen???

Dude take another cable. Something is definitely wrong there.

 

[P6P]

Using same cable on both phones not make any sense its cable problem

I had the s23 ultra and the speed was super good and almost the same with both. Dunno whats wrong on your side.

 

[extremecarver]

There are some cables that definitely work for other devices but fallback to usb2.0 speeds on X90pp. And yeah stock charging cable is only USB 2.0 of course.

 

[P6P]

I am sure is not cable fact is x90pp is slower than samsung like front camera cuts corners from china

It's not slower... As i have said take another cable. I have even shared some screenshots with read and write speed somewhere here on xda or 4pda I'm not sure. The speed is super fine and similar to a s23 ultra. If your S21 Ultra is 2x faster you may have a super elite phone with USB 5.0.

 

[P6P]

New cable same slow speed, fact is only 5gbps, who want swap?

Another not compatible cable. Take a correct one which supports the speed.

 

[luontokoodaus]

I'm surprised this thread got so many posts. So many phones easily beat the S23U, including the Vivo X90PP.