Voice control questions

km8j

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1) OK... What happens when you are on a bluetooth headset? Where does the audio route?

Since moto pretty much has an epic fail with regard to security in that you can't use touchless control AND a screen lock, I'm looking for solutions.

2) What would happen, for example, if you were to use a third party screen lock tool instead of native android? Would the same limitation apply?
3) Similarly, what about leaving the "phone" unlocked but locking key apps with something like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sp.protector.free and you can set it to only require the passcode once per session. But lets say you "locked" messaging, what would happen if you tried to say "OK Google Now, send text to John Whats up", would that go through?
4) What about something like this to facilitate? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yinlong.voiceprintlock
 
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matt99017d

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1) OK... What happens when you are on a bluetooth headset? Where does the audio route?

Since moto pretty much has an epic fail with regard to security in that you can't use touchless control AND a screen lock, I'm looking for solutions.
As far as the blue tooth goes I'm not sure. But they did come out with a fix for the issue at hand.

Read up on this.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/16/moto-x-skip/





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Psilocin

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That is far from a solution since it requires you to touch your phone to use touchless controls.
I think your expectations are a bit high. Anytime you want to add security, you have to sacrifice convenience. Can't have both. It's like saying I want to have a safe that uses a fingerprint scanner, retina scan, and voice recognition to keep my money in it. The safe will be really secure, but you have to do all three steps every time you want to take money out.

Same analogy here. This is an Android security limitation, and not really anything Moto can do about it. As it is right now, you can't have notifications on the lockscreen with a security pin/pattern that shows portions of emails and texts without compromising privacy because anyone can see those previews, nor will voice activation be able to automatically unlock the lockscreen or any app that has a security lock. Just have to hope Google is working on giving more options that allow a various levels of security and privacy in Key Lime. You can use Tasker or Llama apps to set safe zones based on location data or networks to disable the lock screen when you want, but again you lose security to gain convenience in those safe zones.
 
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km8j

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These expectations are completely in line with the functionality of today. You can use a bluetooth headset to bypass screen locks and have been able to for some time. There is not a large security risk with someone being able to send a text via voice from your phone or navigate somewhere, but that is on the user to decide just like you can now place widgets on your lock screen which expose data.
 

Psilocin

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These expectations are completely in line with the functionality of today. You can use a bluetooth headset to bypass screen locks and have been able to for some time. There is not a large security risk with someone being able to send a text via voice from your phone or navigate somewhere, but that is on the user to decide just like you can now place widgets on your lock screen which expose data.
I agree that it should be a user option to decide, but you can't blame Moto for taking the safe route by respecting default android policies especially with a brand new app. Otherwise they would get flak for not respecting security, as the bluetooth workaround could be considered a security flaw just as much as a convenience. There's also a reason why all android phones have the security lock disabled by default, simply because not everyone, including myself, are paranoid about security and that is why they focused on making voice activation work perfectly when the security lock is disabled. Bright side is for those who are, it's only software and Moto can easily update it in the coming months. In the mean time, use Tasker or Llama.
 
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