Wallet for everyone? Google, oh you.

bb12489

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I have just installed it on my DNA and I'm going to try the vending machine here on campus. Will update soon!

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spinkick

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Yeah, the DNA has NFC.

Edit: just read your post on another thread. Was just about to go to the store to test out. Have they tried that and NFC isn't working, or NFC isnt working in general?
I have not tried yet, but without the secure element I dont see how it could work. Verizon wins again :(
 

volfan22

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If you go to the about screen it still says that tap and pay is "not available" for us. So I'm guessing we still can't use it for that. I wonder with this new version if it might be easier to get it to work though?

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bb12489

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Just confirmed that if you change your build.prop to a Tap and Pay supported phone like the Galaxy Nexus, it will then proceed to look for a Secure Element and wallet will not load. If you keep your stock build prob for your device it knows that it has no secure element and will just report back that Tap and Pay is not available. Pulled a log cat to confirm this. It returns that no SMX is available and will force close wallet after a certain amount of time.

I'm wondering if Google might of added the ability to look for Secure Elements on sim cards with this updated. Can anyone confirm that might have an NFC SE Sim card?

Bottom line is.... If we have no SE embedded on our phones, then NFC payments with Wallet are not a possibility.
 

jasoraso

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Just confirmed that if you change your build.prop to a Tap and Pay supported phone like the Galaxy Nexus, it will then proceed to look for a Secure Element and wallet will not load. If you keep your stock build prob for your device it knows that it has no secure element and will just report back that Tap and Pay is not available. Pulled a log cat to confirm this. It returns that no SMX is available and will force close wallet after a certain amount of time.

I'm wondering if Google might of added the ability to look for Secure Elements on sim cards with this updated. Can anyone confirm that might have an NFC SE Sim card?

Bottom line is.... If we have no SE embedded on our phones, then NFC payments with Wallet are not a possibility.
I wonder if all it needs now to get SMX access is the nfc_access.xml file in /system/etc that contains the Google Wallet key, instead of just a Isis key. AFAIK, you can have both keys listed in the nfc_access.xml file. But if you don't have a NFC sim card, I guess you can't verify ...

If you feel like changing your build.prop again, maybe you could experiment with the nfc_access.xml file?
 

phuckwithfire

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I wonder if all it needs now to get SMX access is the nfc_access.xml file in /system/etc that contains the Google Wallet key, instead of just a Isis key. AFAIK, you can have both keys listed in the nfc_access.xml file. But if you don't have a NFC sim card, I guess you can't verify ...

If you feel like changing your build.prop again, maybe you could experiment with the nfc_access.xml file?
I have the right SIM, and wouldn't mind testing this for you. You may have to walk me through it, though... I'm not extremely savvy with altering xml files. :p

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egore93

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Just confirmed that if you change your build.prop to a Tap and Pay supported phone like the Galaxy Nexus, it will then proceed to look for a Secure Element and wallet will not load. If you keep your stock build prob for your device it knows that it has no secure element and will just report back that Tap and Pay is not available. Pulled a log cat to confirm this. It returns that no SMX is available and will force close wallet after a certain amount of time.

I'm wondering if Google might of added the ability to look for Secure Elements on sim cards with this updated. Can anyone confirm that might have an NFC SE Sim card?

Bottom line is.... If we have no SE embedded on our phones, then NFC payments with Wallet are not a possibility.
It checks the the phone is rooted. That's what is stopping it. If you go to Verizon galaxy s4 thread and go to Google wallet you can see what they did to make it work.

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bb12489

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It checks the the phone is rooted. That's what is stopping it. If you go to Verizon galaxy s4 thread and go to Google wallet you can see what they did to make it work.

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Those methods do not work. They have been tried in the past. You still need a secure element to have Tap n Pay function. The DNA lacks this element, but the GS4 has it.
 

egore93

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Those methods do not work. They have been tried in the past. You still need a secure element to have Tap n Pay function. The DNA lacks this element, but the GS4 has it.
Oh OK. I have a S4 and have the old wallet installed on it. My DNA I have not messed with it. That sucks!

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bb12489

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Oh OK. I have a S4 and have the old wallet installed on it. My DNA I have not messed with it. That sucks!

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Yea it does...

The new wallet app works on the S4 right out of the box! Really makes me want to switch to it from my DNA, but the G2 is looking like my next choice :p Sadly Wallet doesn't function on that either :/
 

egore93

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Yea it does...

The new wallet app works on the S4 right out of the box! Really makes me want to switch to it from my DNA, but the G2 is looking like my next choice :p Sadly Wallet doesn't function on that either :/
The tap to pay does not work unless you trick the build prop.

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bb12489

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The tap to pay does not work unless you trick the build prop.

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I was just looking at their thread for the new version and it doesn't even seem like you need to have xposed framework at all. Looks like all the flashable zip does is intall the Wallet.apk so you don't have to change your build.prop to get it from the market. Although it looks like people are having a tough time using the new version compared to the old version.
 

egore93

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I was just looking at their thread for the new version and it doesn't even seem like you need to have xposed framework at all. Looks like all the flashable zip does is intall the Wallet.apk so you don't have to change your build.prop to get it from the market. Although it looks like people are having a tough time using the new version compared to the old version.
It's funny I installed the old wallet then a couple days later the new one came out and I wasn't going to switch it all over again. I'm running the hyperdrive rom and some people are hit and miss with tap to pay to work. I figured I would wait till someone gets it all hashed out and working flawlessly. There aren't very many pay pass places in Eugene Or. :( The only place I know of is toys R us.

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