Waterproof

[BobKatz]

Just a comment to all those grumpy gusses who say that just because the XZ says it waterproof to 1m for 30min you shouldn’t try it and use the example that just because a car has seat belts would you slam your car into a wall to test them.

How many car advert have there been that show the wondrous features of their seat belts, very few. The advert for XZ shows a happy couple pouring water on their phone to the strains of David Bowie, it’s one of the main selling feature of the device! The simile you should use is that my car has a sun roof but I don’t want to open it while we’re moving just in case it rips the roof off!

 

[azeter]

lol true !!!

 

[RoberM]

Double post of a double post?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224692

 

[BobKatz]

Double post of a double post?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2224692

Yeah but mines shorter and pithier!

 

[wawyed]

Just a comment to all those grumpy gusses who say that just because the XZ says it waterproof to 1m for 30min you shouldn’t try it and use the example that just because a car has seat belts would you slam your car into a wall to test them.

How many car advert have there been that show the wondrous features of their seat belts, very few. The advert for XZ shows a happy couple pouring water on their phone to the strains of David Bowie, it’s one of the main selling feature of the device! The simile you should use is that my car has a sun roof but I don’t want to open it while we’re moving just in case it rips the roof off!

Maybe because every single car has that feature, it's mandatory.

They advertise what makes him unique, that's it.

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[BobKatz]

Maybe because every single car has that feature, it's mandatory.

They advertise what makes him unique, that's it.

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In the same way in all phone adverts they don't show how you can make calls, or send texts because they all do it.

 

[Ryland Johnson]

Just a comment to all those grumpy gusses who say that just because the XZ says it waterproof to 1m for 30min you shouldn’t try it and use the example that just because a car has seat belts would you slam your car into a wall to test them.

How many car advert have there been that show the wondrous features of their seat belts, very few. The advert for XZ shows a happy couple pouring water on their phone to the strains of David Bowie, it’s one of the main selling feature of the device! The simile you should use is that my car has a sun roof but I don’t want to open it while we’re moving just in case it rips the roof off!

May I ask a favour of you? Could you possibly post a link to any Sony literature that has it written that the XZ is waterproof please.

Many thanks.

 

[decadan1977]

The foamers are beginning to foam
Think he just means resistant.
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[kingvortex]

May I ask a favour of you? Could you possibly post a link to any Sony literature that has it written that the XZ is waterproof please.

Many thanks.

In the user guide that is available on the handset itself, it plainly states the phone is water resistant, not water proof. It seems some people either don't read the literature that is available or do not understand the difference between proof and resistant

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[Ryland Johnson]

In the user guide that is available on the handset itself, it plainly states the phone is water resistant, not water proof. It seems some people either don't read the literature that is available or do not understand the difference between proof and resistant

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I agree with you 100% and that is WHY I wrote about the difference initially to mention this to fellow owners. To me prevention being better than cure.

Hey, when owners pay there cash they own their mobile, its their property, again my only desire was to advise some members here that the phone is not water proof and should not be taken swimming or used in a sauna as one poor owner did thus damaging his phone by allowing moisture into the XZ camera.

Regards

 

[kingvortex]

I still treat my phone as if it is not water resistant, as I do not want to become careless with it and leave it in situations where it might get damaged. To me the water resistance is there as a "just in case" measure if the worst happens and you drop the phone in water or spill something.
Then again, I treat expensive items with the respect they deserve, unlike some people I see around absolutely hammering their phones as if they aren't a £500 piece of equipment

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[Ryland Johnson]

I still treat my phone as if it is not water resistant, as I do not want to become careless with it and leave it in situations where it might get damaged. To me the water resistance is there as a "just in case" measure if the worst happens and you drop the phone in water or spill something.
Then again, I treat expensive items with the respect they deserve, unlike some people I see around absolutely hammering their phones as if they aren't a £500 piece of equipment

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Exactly. I share your thoughts. Its a question of respect for our property bought about by the knowledge of the devices we use, plus common sense.

I take it you haven't tried the 'soup test' yet then

Regards

 

[BobKatz]

Looking at most of you I see that your in the UK, therefore have you heard of a thing called the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) there remit is deal with inaccurate or misleading adverts. So if you were to wash your phone as per the TV advert, or drop into a bowl of water as per the printed adverts, or as per their website claims hold it under 1m of water for half an hour you can because if anything happened to your device you could make a legal complaint through them, be compensated and have every jot of XZ water resistance advertising dropped.

Also now that the phone has been out for a couple of months have a look on asa. org. uk and see how many complaints there have been about Sony’s water resistance claims. If you don’t like make a complaint.

Just as an aside if you have a spare 5mins do go on the site and have a look at what some people do complain about!! There are some real odd balls out there!

 

[kingvortex]

I take it you haven't tried the 'soup test' yet then

Regards

No chance! Anyway, it's too hot to be eating soup, hahaha

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[BobKatz]

Ok one thing we can agree on soup, saunas are not in the adverts

 

[Ryland Johnson]

Looking at most of you I see that your in the UK, therefore have you heard of a thing called the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) there remit is deal with inaccurate or misleading adverts. So if you were to wash your phone as per the TV advert, or drop into a bowl of water as per the printed adverts, or as per their website claims hold it under 1m of water for half an hour you can because if anything happened to your device you could make a legal complaint through them, be compensated and have every jot of XZ water resistance advertising dropped.

Also now that the phone has been out for a couple of months have a look on asa. org. uk and see how many complaints there have been about Sony’s water resistance claims. If you don’t like male a complaint.

Just as an aside if you have a spare 5mins do go on the site and have a look at what some people do complain about!! There are some real odd balls out there!

Again I can but agree with you entirely.

I live in Southern Europe where temperatures can reach well above 40 degrees, its 27 degrees today. In October last year I had to return my Samsung Nexus S to the outlet as the on off switch didn't work. After some time I was informed that the phone was water damaged? Do you know what I was told? We cannot keep our mobiles in our pockets as when we perspire the moisture enters the mobile! I was asked to pay for the repair. Only this month was the phone returned, it has taken all this time to fight for my consumer rights. This is NOT the UK.
To add insult to injury The phone lasted two days and is back with exactly the same problem.

It is not only the odd ball complaint that amuse me its what some owners subject their phones too. Have you seen the clip of the 'person' dropping a lump hammer onto his XZ then complaining the glass broke?

The XZ clearly has a greater IQ than some of the owners

 

[that-fat-old-man]

I wouldn't use mine under the shower, but cleaning it once in a while with some water and soap is okay.

 

[waveloom]

Sony XZ has certification IPX5 and 7, for dust proof and water proof.

Can be used freely for 30 minutes in any sweet water situation, within 1 meter of pressure.

Also, is certified that there will not be intrusion of sand and dust inside of device, in contact with fine or thick dust.

All other objections about this, are pointless...

http://www.camerasunderwater.co.uk/ip-ratings

 

[kingvortex]

Sony XZ has certification IPX5 and 7, for dust proof and water proof.

Resistance not proof
Limited dust resistance and water resistance up to 1m depth for 30 minutes.
Neither of those statements means dust or water proof. The IP ratings are not a green light to go swimming with the device either, especially not in chlorinated or sea water

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[waveloom]

Resistance not proof
Limited dust resistance and water resistance up to 1m depth for 30 minutes.
Neither of those statements means dust or water proof. The IP ratings are not a green light to go swimming with the device either, especially not in chlorinated or sea water

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I agree about salty or chlorid water, beside that... a short exposition with this kind of water, are allowed, if you quickly rinse the device after use.. that's why youtube start to be filled with people making underwater videos at lake or pools, with the XZ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg7S0iIHIiE

This without to mention, the extreme test that have been made inside tomato, chocolate and ice.. by the Gizmo and CNet teams.