[WEBTOP] GenTop2-20120509 (Beta) - Next Generation Gentoo Webtop Replacement

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The display resolution can be changed using the corresponding Xfce setting tool. I can be challenging to hit the controls but afterwards it's fine.

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Why is there a Motorola "screensaver" behind the desktop when the resolution doesnt fit?

Apparently the tegra chip supports something called "overlays", which probably are just multiple overlapping video layers.

The screensaver seems to be always running at a very low stacking layer.

The usual X11 desktops is probably at layer 255, which one can see in the xorg.conf (I didnt much there).

When the multimedia application is started, it uses a higher layer than the desktop. That's why you can switch to multimedia app and back again.

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Did a quick test with the new tarball, it seems the rest is fine on my tv at the login screen, couldn't test further, I because of no kb at that point. Great job on once again. Probably in can try building a kernel with swap tonight or tomorrow.
 

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The boot-up script /osh/ubuntu.sh will mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 to /mnt/gentoo. This place is referenced by /usr/portage and /var/tmp and will enable emerge if you install the second GenTop2-portage-20120428.tar.bz2 tarball.
*How* do I *install* that second tarball? Or is it simply Ok to place that second file on the ext3-partition?
 

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*How* do I *install* that second tarball? Or is it simply Ok to place that second file on the ext3-partition?
No. First partition your external sd to look like this:
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk1p1 (remainder)
/dev/block/mmcblk1p2 (4.0 GB, formatted ext3)
Then in adb shell run:
Code:
tar xvjf /sdcard/GenTop2-portage-20120428.tar.bz2
 
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No. First partition your external sd to look like this:
Code:
/dev/block/mmcblk1p1 (remainder)
/dev/block/mmcblk1p2 (4.0 GB, formatted ext3)
Then in adb shell run:
Code:
tar xvjf /sdcard/GenTop2-portage-20120424.tar.bz2
Might add that name of 2nd tarball should match the one you download. In this example the name does not match the latest which has a date of 20120428.
 

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Tried it from running Gentoo environment/terminal, but whole system freezed after some time.

Does that work from adb somehow also? (installing that 2nd tarball?)
 

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Tried it from running Gentoo environment/terminal, but whole system freezed after some time.

Does that work from adb somehow also? (installing that 2nd tarball?)
Use adb just like the main tarball.

---------- Post added at 03:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:17 PM ----------

Any way to change the time displayed in the desktop clock? It's 6 hours fast for me.
 

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Well for openoffice, if its the -bin version, its done within a few minutes, the question however reimains if its arm compiled or not (probably its not), one way to get openoffice is just to get the package from ubuntu (thats arm softfloat without neon compiled) or crosscompile it.
Thanks for your answer, but could you help me with this, I really don't know what I'm looking for, sorry lol.

I also read that gentoo is dropping openoffice, so should I Edit
Code:
"app-office/libreoffice-bin **"
into the file /etc/portage/package.keywords aswell as write
Code:
"app-office/libreoffice-bin"
into /etc/portage/package.unmask
And then run this?
Code:
emerge app-office/libreoffice-bin
Or just try it with openoffice?
 

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Installing 2nd tarball from adb ended with "tar:short read" after decompressing for a while, stopping at mnt/gentoo/portage/dev-perl/...
 

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Then in adb shell run:
Code:
tar xvjf /sdcard/GenTop2-portage-20120428.tar.bz2
If you did this it should have gone ok. Takes a long time though. Maybe setup sdcard again, re-download, and give it another go.

<edit> After getting shell I also did "# su" first. Dunno if that made difference.

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Thanks for your answer, but could you help me with this, I really don't know what I'm looking for, sorry lol.

I also read that gentoo is dropping openoffice, so should I Edit
Code:
"app-office/libreoffice-bin **"
into the file /etc/portage/package.keywords aswell as write
Code:
"app-office/libreoffice-bin"
into /etc/portage/package.unmask
And then run this?
Code:
emerge app-office/libreoffice-bin
Or just try it with openoffice?
try libreoffice-bin if they have it armv7-a softfloat compiled, but just compiling libreoffice probably wont work, and if it will it will compile it like at least a day (takes around 40 mins on my 2600k at 4.2ghz and the panda i have is approx 22 times slower than the pc at compiling stuff, so id say the atrix is about 25-30 times slower)
Btw we could use LXDE instead of XFCE, its basically based on it but even more leightweight.
 

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try libreoffice-bin if they have it armv7-a softfloat compiled, but just compiling libreoffice probably wont work, and if it will it will compile it like at least a day (takes around 40 mins on my 2600k at 4.2ghz and the panda i have is approx 22 times slower than the pc at compiling stuff, so id say the atrix is about 25-30 times slower)
Btw we could use LXDE instead of XFCE, its basically based on it but even more leightweight.
I just read on the gentoo archives, it's only for 64 and 86, could you help me get the one from Ubuntu please?
 

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Could someone tell me the similarities and differences between webtop2sd and this (Gentop2)?

I am somewhat a n00b when it comes to linux disks. So webtop2sd is ubuntu while this is Gentoo if I am correct.

Isn't Gentoo a lot older than ubuntu, and takes much longer to install/compile programs? OpenOffice for example?
 

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Could someone tell me the similarities and differences between webtop2sd and this (Gentop2)?

I am somewhat a n00b when it comes to linux disks. So webtop2sd is ubuntu while this is Gentoo if I am correct.

Isn't Gentoo a lot older than ubuntu, and takes much longer to install/compile programs? OpenOffice for example?
Well this is designed for Arm units unlike the webtop that Motorola gave us, so it's much much faster... But yes installing programs is hell on gentoo...
 

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Awesome. Youtube 720p works without lag.

EDIT: I just found out that if I logged in as root, aiw fails, but with adas, it works.
EDIT2: Seems like logging in as adas solves everything. Loving it! :)

This was probably my problem. I'm in the process of re-installing to validate. These details are very important and need to be move to the install post.
 

eurosport360

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Thanks so much for this, after so much work trying to get a desktop on atrix, it finally works.

Just a couple of n00b questions:

1) How do you change the time on the top right?

2) How do you properly quit out of webtop? When you click logout, it asks if you want to shut down, logout, hibernate, etc. Which one do chose to safely close it?

3) Is installing resources such as flash and java the same as installing applications? i.e. using Portage?

4) What is a good source to learn all about gentoo? I am going to guess that the gentoo handbook is the best bet, specifically the arm-architect version....
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-arm.xml
right?

5) What are some beginner apps to start installing?

6) Does any version of openoffice work for this? I thought I saw that openoffice was only for x86 and x64....
 
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