[webtop] webtop2sd discussion (currently version 2.0.1)

[Sogarth]

Note: Please keep this thread restricted to Atrix-specific and general issues. Threads for other devices are referenced at the top of the main webtop2sd thread.

Discuss webtop2sd here (the other thread will be kept clean for announcements, FAQs, etc.).

Before you report an issue:

Make sure it's not on the Known Issues list first!.

Basic debugging, since these are going to be questions I ask anyways:

• If you hit problems with the Android webtop2sd application, you'll need to tell me the error, and give me the last few lines of adb logcat. Run this adb command, which will filter out most of the unimportant lines:
  • adb logcat ActivityManager:i AndroidRuntime:i webtop2sd:i *:s
• Are you actually booting from your SD card? You can find this out by checking the Diagnostics tab in webtop2sd, under "Currently mounted webtops". If mmcblk1p12 isn't listed, you're not booted from your SD card. If this is the case, report what ROM you're running from.
• Is the webtop configurator application showing, but not running successfully? If so, plug your device into your dock and run a terminal (either locally or adbWireless + adb shell) and run the following:
  • su
  • /usr/bin/sudo -H -u adas bash
  • export DISPLAY=:0
  • python /usr/local/bin/webtop-configurator.pyc
  I'll need whatever output shows up.

 

[racca]

great! thanks for making it so much easier.

haven't actually tested it b/c i sort of figured out how to do that a few days back, but still need to manually install it.
maybe i'll test your app next time i decide to reinstall my ubuntu.

btw, which script are you using to mount /osh? for me only /data/logging.sh works (it's safer anyway).

 

[Sogarth]

I suspect that what I'm doing isn't rocket science by any means. But, what I do seem to be pretty good at is packaging semi-complex things up for people into a manageable form with a fairly solid level of reliability. You couldn't imagine the things I'm happy that I managed to accomplish with this app, because they're so... quirky.

Anyways, I've been using /system/bin/mountosh since the beginning. I need to tweak the copy I'm using right now, since my goals have expanded beyond what I initially wrote it for. On the other hand, it'll mean that I can separate out my "personal" Ubuntu versus my "debugging" one, and that should be quite helpful.

 

[OSNPA]

These advances with linux customization in webtop have turned me on to Ubuntu in general. I just dumped windows xp on my desktop server and now run ubuntu super OS and studio. This takes a phone to a new level. Thanks OP!

 

[n1ckr0th]

i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?

 

[krkeegan]

I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.

I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.

A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?

 

[Djazin]

I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?

Oh, and...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

-djazin

 

[Viamonte]

Yes I believe the most important questions here are:

1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...

Regardless, your work is the only reason why I'm buying myself a lapdock and replacing my netbook, so thank you very much for this hobby of yours =)

 

[Man_of_Leisure]

Looks great, thanks for the hard work

 

[dicksteele]

Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.

Looks like no sleep week.

 

[Sogarth]

i would love to try this out but i'm on a mac.. can you partition through disk utility?

Possibly; I'm not sure. At least one person I talked to said that it should be possible via command line utilities, but I'm not the best person to ask about this particular issue, not having convenient access to Mac OS X...

I would complain that you beat me to it, my initial post here, except it looks like what you created is way more advanced and polished than anything I could do.

I will check it out right now. Oops, i see it is only a shell at the moment. Well I am very eager to try it.

A few questions then:
1. I assume this is similar to your last mod, in that you have just moved the Motorola environment onto the SD card, no chroot or other tricks?
2. Is the dependency problem better? Are we able to replace the motorola packages?
3. Are we still stuck with jaunty or is there a possibility to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu?

Heh. I've actually been planning this for over a month, after some pointers from eval- - I had a rough version running, but I wanted to make something that users would be able to take advantage of easily. Oddly, it's the UI that's been the difficult part - actually having it do stuff is (relatively speaking) the easy part.

1. Yes, this is moving the Motorola environment to the SD card. Nothing special otherwise.
2. Not really - nothing's changed on that front. I'll be tweaking some of the package states on the filesystem to make upgrades less liable to completely blow up, but if we want to keep some of the niceties that Motorola added, I'll need to port those changes forward (which I have no particular problem with doing).
3. We're stuck with Jaunty for now. Unfortunately, it looks like information I had previously in regards to a version upgrade for Ubuntu don't apply to our phone, so I'll likely start working on an upgrade to 10.04 LTS after this stabilizes.

I know this might seem like a useless question (installing regardless), but your previous work was based off the 1.5.7 firmware, would this app be supported/functional on the current 1.8.3 firmware?

Yes I believe the most important questions here are:

1 - which version will it work for? .83? .57? or just up to .52?
2 - If the Ubuntu version could be upgraded to, say, 11? Probably not, but hey...

This is the fun part. Since this is an Android application and not a script, this part should work with any version. I'm currently running 4.1.57 on my phone (I never did get around to upgrading), but once I verify it works there properly, I'll be upgrading to 4.1.83 and testing there as well. There are no issues that I'm aware of that would prevent this first application from running, and the second application (the Python/Gtk one I have planned) should be able to handle any differences between the various ROMs out there.

And the Ubuntu version upgrade question, I answered just above this.

 

[n1ckr0th]

everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..

 

[Djazin]

Epic Sogarth


The ui looks nice though can't wait to test it on 1.8.3 been on 1.5.7 with v2 awhile now updated to 1.8.3 installed the app played with the setting everything looks sweet cant wait for the go ahead XD wouldnt mind testing anything.

-Djazin

 

[PAulyhoffman]

Sweet!! I just bought a 32 GB card the other day. Happy Fathers day to me.

Looks like no sleep week.

32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10

 

[Sogarth]

everything is greyed out when i try to use the app..

Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?

 

[dicksteele]

32g class 10 has proven to fail on the atrix
it corrupts. Lets hope you didn't spend the extra money for the class 10

That's good to know. Luckily they were out of 10's, and I got a four. Already formatted 16 GB fat32 the rest ext3.

 

[dicksteele]

Greyed out? I know that the "Go!" and "Uninstall" buttons tell you that it's not implemented yet, but nothing should be grayed out?

Now that I really look at it mine is also. So I'm guessing that's due to 1.83, or GladiAtrix. That's what I'm using.

I'll post a screenshot if you need.

I could go to stock 1.57 upgrade to 1.83 but not until tomorrow night

 

[Viamonte]

Thanks for the answers, Sogarth. And congratulations on your gift man, because your sum of intelligence and dedication sure is one. I'll be installing this on my Atrix as soon as it has been stabilized (and, well, actually made useful xD)

 

[_Dennis_]

I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.

All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......

 

[dicksteele]

I am on Gingerblur 4.5 only things greyed out are Partitioning section, both 'Device to partition' and 'Webtop partition size' items if "Partition ext. storage" is not selected. Also under "Locations" 'Delete filesystem file' is grey if 'Source webtop' is set to 'internal storage'.

All of these being grey makes sense if you read what they are doing......

Unchecking the Partition ext. storage option "ungreyed" the Locations options and Advanced options. Didn't think about doing that since that was one of the goals of this app.

Since I manually partitioned already I should have thought of that.