Weloop Tommy Smartwatch (FAQ/Updates/Hacks)

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BravoCharlie

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The Leap Year bug is also on Weloop firmware. After 29 Feb it will be one day or date out for rest of 2016. I think time to try a new model, I ordered iwown i7.

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Harlley Sathler

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The Leap Year bug is also on Weloop firmware. After 29 Feb it will be one day or date out for rest of 2016. I think time to try a new model, I ordered iwown i7.

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I believe it will be on day out forever. I am planning to try the OSSW. With one US Dollar costing four Brazilian Real, I simply can't afford a new watch now.
 

BravoCharlie

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I installed OSSW to try it but don't know how to use the json files to try Sample extensions. Anyone can explain?

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qkall

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I installed OSSW to try it but don't know how to use the json files to try Sample extensions. Anyone can explain?

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The json files are the watch faces. You need extensions for some of them to work. Also you'll get better support on the Google groups page.

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BravoCharlie

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Thanks, I realised after I need the android app to upload the extensions and watch faces and had to borrow a phone as normally use iPhone. I will consult the google groups page some more.
 

qkall

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Hello,
thank you.
I'm in Italy.
Tell me how much you have to pay.
P.S.
DX does not sell it more

i haven't looked but ... i'm not sure if it would be worth your time at that distance... i'm in USA. I've shipped items before on the cheap and most out of country things are 10$+ USD.
 

qkall

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Thank you, then you can tell me the polarity of the two pins

i'm not super sure how to do that... I did look into shipping (i check standard usps) and it was like 14$. I suspect Fedex/DHL is cheaper...


Edit.. I was wrong. So much more expensive through FedEx... I don't understand.
 
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perama

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The Leap Year bug is also on Weloop firmware. After 29 Feb it will be one day or date out for rest of 2016. I think time to try a new model, I ordered iwown i7.

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I just found out that there is a new firmware update for my Goclever. I installed it and the leap year bug is gone! I am so glad!!!

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Vintage Iron

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Just found this site a few days ago and found this thread and for excited. I believe that I've read all the entry's but I'm not sure. I jumped to the end then worked my way back. It seems like Weloop has given up on an English version of the app and the chronos/goclever, or open source app are the only other options. I love that this watch does not support answering phone calls and only notifies you of incoming calls. That is what my bluetooth headset is for. Reading messages and getting the basic info from emails is enough for me. Is this watch still worth getting or would the Pebble Watch be a better option. I'm looking for a smartwatch that I don't need to use as a phone. Just tell me who's calling, who's texting or emailing and what those messages are and anything else would be a bonus. I really just don't want to have to talk through the watch if I get a call. Do any other watches under a $100 bucks accomplish this?
 

ozguresen

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no notification

I cannot get the most of the notifications from my android 6.0.1 device.

I only get messages notifications.

Any helps?

I am using latest version of goclever.
 

vectron

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I cannot get the most of the notifications from my android 6.0.1 device.
I only get messages notifications.
Any helps?
I am using latest version of goclever.

The same problem, can't get any notifications from MM6.0.1 :( Any idea? Don't want to switch to anything else, been using Tommy for almost 2 years since day one, and I'm used to running on a single battery charge for 3-4 weeks.
 

Vintage Iron

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Wow! So that's it? No more support for this watch in the English market. It never fails. You find something you like and poof! It's either discontinued or no longer going to recurve support. Is it possible to root a smartwatch?
 

Vintage Iron

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That's good to hear. I'm seriously thinking about getting this watch. The battery life and most features it has are pretty much what I need. As long as I can get notifications on my wrist and accept the calls through my bluetooth headset I'm on board. I truly can't see myself taking a call via my watch. I don't understand why more watches are not designed to just notify when it comes to the phone call aspect of the pairing features. I was beginning to that I was going to have to spend the extra coin on an Android Wear or Pebble watch.
 

Vintage Iron

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That's good to hear. I'm seriously thinking about getting this watch. The battery life and most features it has are pretty much what I need. As long as I can get notifications on my wrist and accept the calls through my bluetooth headset I'm on board. I truly can't see myself taking a call via my watch. I don't understand why more watches are not designed to just notify when it comes to the phone call aspect of the pairing features. I was beginning to that I was going to have to spend the extra coin on an Android Wear or Pebble watch.
I found the Black version online for $66.99. I also see that there is a Weloop Tommy 2 that accepts different watch bands. Unfortunately I can't find anyone selling it.
 

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    The purpose of this thread is to have all information regarding the Weloop Tommy, gathered, fresh and to the point.
    (i am not affiliated with Weloop)
    Please read both post number 1, 2 and search thread before asking questions thank you.
    FAQ

    Q:What is the latest firmware?
    [Release] black watch v3.19 firmware update notifications [Copy link]

    This update to the firmware update, the client does not update the current firmware version v3.18 firmware watches friends can try to use the old client detects the firmware update.

    Update:
    Solve watches restart, restore factory settings watches language will change.

    Download Link:
    iOS client 2.079: http://fir.im/iosobt
    Android client 1.29.3702b: http://fir.im/andobt

    Unofficial file archive of WeLoop Tommy. APK-Files with ending "b" are BETA http://www.wtf.li/


    Q: When is the next app update
    A: Weloop v. 3.0 will be released as closed beta 7the of March 2015 we don't know when there will be an open english release....


    the extensive update 3.0 have,
    • better health monitoring
    • profiles
    • sleep monitoring
    • more alarms weekdays/weekend
    • and more.
    (see attached pictures for app version 3.0 UI improvements

    Q: What does the settings do?

    - Backlight
    • 24H: Backligth always turns on when button is pressed
    • Nite: Backligth turns on when button is pressed at night time (from 17–8)
    • Off: Backligth Always Off
    - Motion
    • 24H: Motion detection always on (backlight turns on when motion is detected)
    • Nite: Motion detection on at night time (from 17-8)
    • Off: Motion detection Off
    - Night
    • On: Notification vibration disabled at night (from 23–8)
    • Off: Notification enabled at night
    - O Clock
    • On: every whole hour the watch will vibrate. 12'O'clock etc.
    • Off: Off
    - Fitness
    • On: Fitness functionality on
    • Off: Off
    - Language
    • Chinese
    • English
    - Anti Loss
    • On: Alarm when Phone is out of BT range
    • Off: Off

    Q: Is there Cyrillic support
    A: Yes

    Q: The GoClever Ecos Chronos is the same watch right?
    A: Yes it is on the hardware side, and you can with a "hack" install the firmware from the ECOS on the Tommy. (see next post for How to.!)

    Awesome Weloop Review by VECTRON
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/weloop-tommy-smartwatch-looks-best-t2864444
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    WeLoop Tommy Watchface Creator new version released!

    Changelog:
    2015/04/30 [v1.10.12]
    * New feature: add date to watchface
    * New feature: generate digit images from fonts (two color combinations)

    * Fixed gallery
    * Faster image loading in gallery
    * Bug fixes

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    Download links are in first post. (link)

    Please hit the Thanks button to let me know it works without problems, or if you encounter a problem, please tell me.
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    Hi Everyone!
    A few days ago I have started developing a Windows application: WeLoop Tommy Watchface Creator :)
    I don't have much freetime, but I will try to release it here soon.
    It will come with limited functionality, but will add more when I will have time for that ;)
    I hope it will be useful.
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    So I've finally got around to starting to look into some stuff, and here's a few bits and pieces I've got so far:

    -Watchfaces are stored on phone in a folder called "DIALS" in the root of the storage (for me it was internal storage, if your phone has an SD card it might be there instead). This folder contains all current watchfaces, as well as preview images. The watchfaces are in .BIN files, the previews are .PNGs.



    -Opening the BIN files in a Hex Editor, made some interesting observations:



    Couple of things to note here:

    1. First 0x14 bytes are largely identical in every dial I've looked at so far [red boxes]
    2. Exception are bytes 0x04 & 0x05 which seem to be an "ID" of some sort for the dial, also found in the file name [yellow boxes]

    -Closer inspection of dial "0108" shows this:



    Obviously this is just a sample, but it's quite clear that this forms the shape of the numbers 22. The files goes through 00, 11, 22...99 and then through them all again, with slight changes (presumably the first are for hours, the second are for minutes?). My guess would be that each of the hex values has a "meaning", it seems like 0xE0 for example comes at the end of a "row", and 0x03 comes at the start. When there's a solid row, it seems to be filled with 0xFF in between the 0x03 and 0xE0, but when only some of the row is filled, different values are used. (Different hex values could correspond to different line thickness perhaps? Just a thought)

    And of course, this is just one dial that I have inspected slightly more closely (and still not that closely, really). For reference, here is the preview image from this dial:



    I have also not yet tried replacing a dial on the device storage and trying to sync it with the Tommy. I don't know if the app re-downloads the files if they're modified or if it would sync a modified one (if it syncs a modified one, it would obviously be more beneficial to reverse engineer the format, not much point in making custom faces if we can't get them on to it).

    Final thing I want to mention is that I have learnt that Android (as of 4.4) includes a built-in bluetooth logging capability. If you go into Developer Options in Settings (if it's not enabled, go into About Phone and tap on Build Number seven times, it'll pop up "you are now a developer" and then go back to settings and Developer Options will be there), there is an option "Enable Bluetooth HCI snoop log", which will dump a log of all packets being sent over bluetooth to the SD card/internal storage. This dump can then be read with a tool like Wireshark. Not sure if it's very useful, but maybe people who know more about bluetooth protocols and whatnot than I do would be able to make some use of it.

    EDIT: Woot, first custom watchface (PoC):


    EDIT: From this PoC, I can confirm that the first instances of each number are for the hours and the second are for the minutes (for dial 0108, anyways). I added the horizontal lines towards the tops of the first instances and towards the bottom of the second to verify this. I assume also that the "left" number is for the left of the screen and the "right" number is for the right of the screen, although I have not yet verified this (seems logical, editing a dial, transferring to phone and syncing takes time so haven't bothered verifying).

    Just to clarify, I got this onto the watch my editing an existing dial and replacing the .bin file in the "DIALS" folder on the root of my internal storage (i.e. the storage accessible over USB).

    EDIT: It's probably also important to note that the dials all have different file sizes, so clearly they all have different layouts etc. My guess would be in the 0x16 bytes that follow the 0x14 bytes mentioned above there are details about the layout (size of characters in bytes and such). It seems (although this could be inaccurate) that the actual dial starts at 0x30, and so the first 0x30 bytes (0x00 > 0x2F) are a "header".

    EDIT: Figured out part of the header, I believe:
    Code:
    Offset(h) 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
    00000000  0A 0B 09 5C 08 01 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ...\............
    00000010  30 00 30 00 30 19 30 19 06 02 4A 02 06 56 4A 56  0.0.0.0...J..VJV
    00000020  40 50 40 50 40 50 40 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  @[email protected]@[email protected]
    (from dial 0108)
    If you look at offset 0x10, the first 8 bytes are:
    Code:
    30 00 30 00 30 19 30 19
    Taking these as two byte "words", and reversing the endianess (basically switching the order of the bytes), you get 0x0030, 0x0030, 0x1930 and 0x1930. Which are the offsets for the beginning of the first digit for the hours (0x0030) and the minutes (0x1930). Of course, as I mentioned before, each digit comes as a pair in this dial, so the first two words (0x0030 and 0x0030) I guess refer to the beginning of both the "0" digits for the hour, even though the second hour digit actually begins at 0x38.

    Hope you guys understand what I am talking about here.

    EDIT: Current estimate of header:

    Code:
    Offset	Length	Description
    0x00	0x04	Magic
    0x04	0x02	ID
    0x06	0x0A	???
    0x10	0x02	Offset for left hour digit
    0x12	0x02	Offset for right hour digit
    0x14	0x02	Offset for left minute digit
    0x16	0x02	Offset for right minute digit
    0x08	0x18	???
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    Troubleshooting

    Q: i can not update my watch/its stuck/acting weird

    Have you tried to reset the watch? there are 3 ways to do it

    1. Restart watch from app. under update there is a restart button (it says reset but it restarts and keeps all your settings)
    2. Reset from watch (Last menu point, this resets everything)
    3. Hard reset (connect charge cable and press up and down button to reset)

    Force OTA update:
    1. Connect your watch to the charger. (watch must be charging)
    2. Press all 3 buttons on the side simultaneously
    3. Release the 2 side buttons, and keep the middle button pressed until you get the upgrade connecting display. (this might take some seconds)
    4. Delete connection from phone
    5. Connect and pair from app and upgrade
    6. If you are on an Android device and it cannot connect, try an ios device, and vice versa
    Q: The watch keeps switching back to chinese

    More people have experienced that if the language is non english the watch will reset to chinese. Changing the phone OS to english stops the watch from switching to Chinese.

    "Hacks"

    How to make your own watchfaces:
    user fcsabika has created a cool tool to create your own watchfaces
    WeLoop Tommy Watchface Creator

    attached are also some watchfaces made by user ruicoel filename "project rui.zip"

    How To install GoClever Chronos ECO firmware on Weloop tommy (android only)
    1. Download latest ECO firmware to phone
    2. Disconnect Watch from phone, install ECO app
    3. Go to “Check For Upgrade”
    4. Tap on the middle circle six times
    5. “Select a firmware file___ [Browse]”
    6. Watch must be in forced OTA
    7. Update watch.
    8. You can flash between weloop and Goclever firmware (always be careful and follow instructions when flashing, i take no responsibility for bricked or exploding watches...)
    9. To install weloop firnware, follow same instructions but use weloop app instead.

    PROJECT OPEN FIRMWARE (please make sure you understand what this is and what it does before you attemtp to flash your watch)
    Make a Weloop Tommy an open source sport watch that can be used without a mobile phone. Want to see a heart rate when running, cycling speed and cadence when cycling or number of laps while swimming? Help to make it possible! LINK
    This project is divided into six phases:
    • Phase 1: find out and document watch pinout so it will be possible to communicate with screen, accelerometer and a flash memory from a custom firmware. DONE
    • Phase 2: write a custom firmware that will print sample text on a screen and expose a BLE service. Firmware will be flashed using SWD connector. DONE
    • Phase 3: make it possible to upload a custom firmware using OTA. This will save the waterproof case from destruction. DONE
    • Phase 4: update softdevice to the newest version (S110 8.0.0). Add possibility to switch to other softdevice (S120/S130) DONE
    • Phase 5: create a "terminal" firmware that allows to control what is displayed on a watch from an android/iOS app. IN PROGRESS
    • Phase 6: create a "standalone" firmware using S130 softdevice that can connect to external sensors (HRS, CSCS etc) without a phone. TODO
    Go support developer Krzysiek

    Goclever APK & FW file is attached to this post.

    Latest Chronos ECO firmware 3.18
    http://www.chronos.goclever.com:8080/fileServer/firmware/CHRONOSECO_V3.18_1.bin
    Chronos ECO app (android)
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yf.foreign.goclever
    Chronos ECO IOS app
    https://itunes.apple.com/th/app/goclever-chronos-eco/id955306578?mt=8

    BUGS & Annoyances
    • Notification not always deleted from phone when deleted on watch
    • Watch freezes sometimes
    • Being able to set the night time manually would be great (This can be done with the Goclever fw)